it was february when ppl started complaining that BIO tricked us with this game.pvp content was hillarius,pve also(except pets storylines),balance of toons in pvp was tragic,and Wzs that needed only tanks and healers was the worst we ever saw. then it was valor that had no worth at all. when ppl said :pls dont make this game easier and pls dont listen to ppl that only wants their toons to be the best ,some others actually trolled us as no-lifers,******* etc etc. i unsubbed ofc in end of february and ill never regret it. i feel that ppl should judge even more BIOs behaviour and even shoo them for some actions they took and still take after all this time. i can still remember them saying:open pvp in swtor will be a BLAST...... in any case i enjoy now the game that casuals created with the help of BIO at that PATHETIC guild summit were a bunch of zeros gathered to say their oppinions about the game.almost all of them should be banned from mmo games for zero-knowledge.only 1-2 of them actually tried to say something serious about pvp and pve but the answer they got was typical and to be expected. the only reason i still post here is cause i was one of them that were trolled by casuals at those days for being over 80 valor while they were still lvling up.i never trolled them and asked for something but THEY trolled me and asked for everything. enjoy your creation now sweeties

1st of all hello everyone. ive quitted this game 2 months now at rank 83. i wonder why u guys still play this game.u ppl like to torture yourself? i mean this game was dead since bio admitted they cant fix open pvp cause of engine issues. this happened like 3 months before. what u guys expect?a miracle? ofc this game will go to 150% casual cause there is no other way. ofc everything will be super easy cause they have nothing new to introduce in mmorpg history. this game was the hope of millios of ppl for many years but when someone only cares for the money(EA mostly and then BIO)the results is what u see. when ppl like me were saying that this game is SUPER easy with zero pvp content..ppl were flaming us cause it happened to lvl up faster than them.we were the no lifers the minority that bio shouldnt listen and make the game like they wanted.easy easy easy and BORING. then they made this parody-guild summit- good as idea but WTH if i call my family for dinner it will be exactly the same. almost ZERO judgment to gabe and also very few good pvp demans. ofc gabe and bio thought:ok we are in good way. guess what hahahaah u were not.some E-fans went there clueless of what an mmo is and led u to wrong directions which u also wanted to be led,cause u couldnt afford the other way. guys:there are games out there that u will surely enjoy even if u stopped them for swtor. lots of games. i chose to return to Warhammer online cause imo its one of the best open pvp games ever.its a pitty that bio actuall abandoned that game so they can develop swtor.they had a goldmine till end of 2010 and they made it a cemetary. Daoc is still after 12 years better that swtor for pvpers. Lineage...rift even YES yes i will admit it after 4 years i stopped wow ,EVEN wow is better. punish them with your actions..show them that they dissapointed us. its one buttons its like a vote. one day ppl must realize that VOTES really have power.and that with this power we make the world better or worst. same happens to mmos. think about it. Hellion-retired 83 valor assasin since start of march.

when i quitted rift,2 months after the release i thought ill never play again such a fail game... guess what,swtor is even worst.at least at rift devs and gms were friendly and REALLY tried.rift had awsome speccs and very good graphics without blowing your pc. in any case i hope this will be the paradigm of what a fail mmo is and wont happen again to mmo history. im back to WH tbh cause its 10 times better than any other game out there for pvpers and especially open pvpers. when 2 months before i posted that this game will faill 100% ppl trolled me. i was 80+ at that moment and i could saw that there is no end game and that this game is more casual than arcanoid. i hope all u nabs that supported the casuality, to let u play only this game for the next 50 years so maybe a good game comes out. my 2 cents and btw i dont give a s... about noobs that supports this game and will respond to me with typicall brainless answers like: troll more,QQ,go home,u wont be missed etc. to those guys i say this:learn to see beyond your finger when u want an easy game...cause guess what,those game u want dies faster than the speed of light. ps:dont tell me that swtor has millions subs also.learn to think deeper.....

really?and why today my guildmate in SWTOR payed 13 euros to play Wh online?? it also asks me to sub to play.. maybe u also mean something else ,like endless trial etc.

for u it may is.i can write u many reasons why its not for me. and WH online is not f2p.. the new one wrath of heroes is. in any case u may enjoy swtor.i dont.

i dont want to analyze the reasons cause it will be like a wall of text no one ever saw. i would like since acounts are same for BWs games ..the sub i recently payed for this mmo(only god knows if it is)to be trangered to WH online. pls if it can be done inform me how to do it..cause this game is simply NOT playable and it never will. thanks in advance.

way to pacman is over there====> mmos are too hard for u.

u really have no idea about WH and ofc about pvp.nough said. ps:all i see (to copy your words)is a casual player that cant gear up and when he will he wil lstart saying that game is too easy , like tens like u do the last 15 days.

i mean exactly the opposite... lets see what u gonna say now.

the mirror is there to use it.u are one of "them"

i read some time now alot of posts with open pvp demands. 1-2 months before when some of us including me ,made some posts EVERYEACHONE here were saying that we were no lifers and that MMOs are pve based etc etc. now that everybody SAW how EMPTY this game is without pvp...all of sudden all of u became open pvp lovers.. majority of forums users KILLED slowly open pvp in this game by not judging BIO for the poor PVP. all ppl wanted was PVE -ui utilities-pets-char customisation and gear and other craps. if u want to find whos fault is that this game has max 3 months life,casual ingame players but forum trolls should look in a mirror. BIO failed cause they gave us a not ready game only to take some money from us.GABE FAILED in creating a GOOD pvp with all the EXP he had from WH and daoc.THIS makes me wonder what exactly they want from SWTOR. money maybe and only that. on the other hand a bunch of noobs went to guild summit and asked so many STUPID questions that ofc BIO thought that gamers dont care about open pvp. guess what ..THEY do! and now that everyone sees that this game CANT support open pvp ..one by one will leave. i wont yet cause my guild is a community of hundreds of ppl, that was created 5-6 years before, and we will leave when we all deside to do so. shame on u BIO for promising us a BLAST in open pvp ,something that will impress us and u gave us nothing. shame on u alll casual players that u roam from game to game killing them with your stupidity cause all u want is easy mode games-easy gearing-and nerfs nerfs nerfs. shame on all open pvp lovers that we didnt post months now to make them understand that PVP counts ALOT. my 2 cents...

they cant ,pvp at SWTOR will always be WZs. and yes they tried,,but casual players and forum trolls stopped them. now we are in a dead end and patch 1.2 will bring nothing for good open pvp. sad but true.

i agree with u. but the prb is that everytime some ppl are trying to protect companies by saying:PLS DONT LISTEN TO CASUAL PLAYERS cause they will make the game damn easy and PLS put some more pvp gear or even fix the damn open pvp BEFORE everything else,u know what they take for answer? ill try to say what they take:U are a no lifer that grinded up to BM in 2 months(like its hard hahahahahha)and we want more PVE and new pets and i want to use /spit as emotion...and CRAP like this. well BIO and EA ofc dont want to loose customers and they listen to them. then after they put everything they want ...casual players desides thats it time to moove on cause the game is easy. IF THIS IS NOT pathetic then pls tell me what it. BIO AND EA were and will be screwd by them and sooner or later they will kill the game like they did at WH. and then ooops no money.. so i ASK u ALL THAT u only seek EASY mode games.will u ever STOP?? cause some of us REALLY want a challenging game with PVP-open pvp-and PVE ofc.

cause the hero engine they use is so ****ed up ,that even if they shut down the game for 6 months they wont fix it so it can support more than 100 ppl fighting in same areas.

i take that as a joke

i edited my last answer.u can read it and deside.

thsoe games died(almost)cause the devs wanted to sell the games and make money. the newcomers had no clue how open pvp works and then the game died. WH died at his peak when open pvp worked perfectly and tens of servers were full. it still exists like daoc but with same patch notes like 2 years before..and without a proper new patch its doomed to die. this dont mean that wow is beter cause wow has still millions of players.it simple means that BLIZZ knows what to do in PVE to keep ppl paying. and thats all. edit:there is no good open pvp game atm..l2 is grind grind grind and ok it has some good open pvp.but tons of bots and 3rd programms.WH has 2 servers and daoc 1. GW2 will have fun mode open pvp BUT very good designed. if u want to see "some"good open pvp even without achievments and rewards u just have o w8 for gw2 like all of us here. if u want to EXP how open pvp should be u can go and play WH..but i warn u its OLD and it has zero progress last years.it still has the base for open pvp though. this also counts for DAOC but daoc has terrible graphics cause its a 10 year old game+

thats fair enough..but then do the same for jags-mercs-sorcs and many more that are using hybrid speccs.

what u miss is that good open pvp has objectives-bonuses-rewards-and its long term issue. this is how good open pvp works. IF a game w8es when some dudes will gather up and make a fight ,well thats surely not open pvp.its a :we are bored and we do silly things...kind of pvp. stop compairing wow with pvp games.wow=a non open pvp game from start to end.

all i see is ppl that has no clue what open pvp is.and the sad story is that this ppl creates the game the way they want it. WOW after patch 2 had ZERO open pvp(and dont tell me about wintergrasp that was a joke) and wow is the worst game u can say for open pvp. DAOC-WH-L2 had tons of open pvp. wow is the worst game ever made for open pvp and pvp balance through classes till recently) u wow lovers will kill all good new games that comes out ,cause u have no clue about pvp.

when sometime ago lots ppl made threads that pvp gearing is easy ...hundreds of ppl flamed them and called them grinders and no lifers. casual players made clear that they want pvp gear to be easy for all. what u guys expect now? next time ppl flames others cause they are undergeared or they have less time to ger up ,they should concider thats easy mode games comes to this point.to become a *********** joke. enjoy what casual players demanded now..tbh i enjoy it.its like a sweet revenge cause i made a thread 2 months before saying that new systems makes gearing up a joke.many ppl flamed me.now its time to enjoy all the retardation i see from time to time at all games in forums.

this game will get better only when BIO and EA shuts the forums down for ever and starts putting GMs online to observe and test the game and listen to the ppl inside game. forums will always favout the most played class and will always kill games like this. but when ppl are judging BIO and EA for their failure in making a descent open pvp game they promised or even in balancing this **** they created with monkeys jumping all over hutball ,they close the topics fast. in any case yes pls nerf this game more cause i have a 3 years old cousin thats wants to play.

ive heard tht so many times...when i was posting for game being easy ..all disagreed.now all posts sais that game is easy. when ppl said OPs needs nerf ,OPs raged with excuses like yours but sad but trueth u needed nerf. if u say trhat sins are OP and need nerf then my friend its your oppinion bu im afraid its only yours. gl in pacman online u will surely need it.

ive watched GW2 vids and news carefully and yes it wwill have open pvp but it will be for fun mostly with no serious bonuses for winners etc. still it will be good with objectives and strategies through a huge map with castles ,villages etc etc. prb is the rewards...the only reward i saw is that your faction will be albe to have the castle they won is place to hang out.nothing more and nothing less. i will be happy to know if there will be more.pls if someone knows more about open pvp rewards ,inform us.

pathetic ..u are doing exactly the same.u are protecting your class with faulse infos there is no way u can compare the burst and the dmg output even the biggest hits of a assasin vs a OP. OPs hits harder,faster,without animations (while our strong hits has animations and then after that we w8 for the proccs ...etc etc)and are better vs any class cause their dmg bypasses armor more than sins. and then again a TANK is a tank though an OP can get him to 50% easily if he suprise him.imagine that he could kill him like at the 1st days of the game.then what?all others would die in a blink of an eye. your logic is so wrong that if my IQ test will fail for this game ,i will gladly never play again or even start it...