GameDragon Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 Ok, I'm sure this has been brought up before, but what the **** is with this BS? Mara/Sent are the only classes without it? Why? Did they think it would make OP? Seriously, I'm getting my *** tossed all over the place and can't return the "favor". I'd gladly give up Obfuscate for Force Push. I don't need an AOE knockback, but SOMETHING would be nice. Ok, rant over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyAl Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 I'd gladly give up Obfuscate for Force Push. roll a jugg problem solved Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superdude- Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 (edited) Ok, I'm sure this has been brought up before, but what the **** is with this BS? Mara/Sent are the only classes without it? Why? Did they think it would make OP? Seriously, I'm getting my *** tossed all over the place and can't return the "favor". I'd gladly give up Obfuscate for Force Push. I don't need an AOE knockback, but SOMETHING would be nice. Ok, rant over. Obfuscate is auto win. Obfuscate, wait until it runs out, pop cloak of pain + saberward, wait for that to run out, undying rage when low. Youre damn near unkillable 1v1. Edited January 31, 2012 by Superdude- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yescek Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 Obfuscate is auto win. Obfuscate, wait until it runs out, pop cloak of pain + saberward, wait for that to run out, undying rage when low. Youre damn near unkillable 1v1. What happens when you get force pushed off a cliff and manage to live though? That Knight/Jugg just ruined your strat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyAl Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 What happens when you get force pushed off a cliff and manage to live though? That Knight/Jugg just ruined your strat. you heal up and find someone else to kill ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superdude- Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 What happens when you get force pushed off a cliff and manage to live though? That Knight/Jugg just ruined your strat. Dont be a noob and position yourself in a way that he CAN push you off a ledge. Problem solved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotSevv Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 Why would I as a mara wan't a knock back when I have to be close to do my best damage? I would gladly take a move to pull my enemy to me before I am given a knock back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AcaciaDragon Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 Why would I as a mara wan't a knock back when I have to be close to do my best damage? I would gladly take a move to pull my enemy to me before I am given a knock back. this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fallenseven Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 I would also sooner take another ability to bring someone in rather than push them away. I complain way more about being pushed away and not being able to dps than want to push someone away from me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmearBlood Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 I personally think it is stupid that jugs get an ability to push someone away, It just makes no sense, Yeah i guess making it so that force charge comes off of cooldown after pushing makes sense... but in all honesty, why are they pushing someone away from them in the first place? So same applies to marauders, I would hate to have a force push like ability, force pull on the other hand... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abishe Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 I personally think it is stupid that jugs get an ability to push someone away, It just makes no sense, Yeah i guess making it so that force charge comes off of cooldown after pushing makes sense... but in all honesty, why are they pushing someone away from them in the first place? So same applies to marauders, I would hate to have a force push like ability, force pull on the other hand... more a tatical skills, and they can push quite far. mara, really do not need it. it serves us no good away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotSevv Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 To be fair the only use we would have would be in huttball, but if you wan't to stop peopl from scoring I would suggest using Ravage (with carnage ability they can't run away for 3 seconds) -> force choke -> cripling slash if you then can't kill them you shouldn't be doing huttball or pvp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxxacre Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 The fact that anyone would actually suggest getting rid of Obfuscate in favor of a knockback just proves that some of you just aren't playing the class right. Obfuscate is not just one of our best abilities... it's one of the best abilities in the entire game. In fact, we have several of the best abilities in the entire game... that includes all classes. Bloodthirst, Obfuscate, Predation, Deadly Throw (for the 20% healing debuff, which no one else has), Undying Rage... those are all easily some of the best abilities in the entire game for any class to have. Not to mention we get the shortest cooldown on our interrupt and we get Force Charge, which is also amazing. We are gods in 1v1. Yes, I know the game wasn't build around 1v1 combat... but there sure is a lot of it in warzones and in open world PvP. It's a beautiful thing. And we're great to have on a team too because we offer a lot of stuff no other class has to offer. Do we need a knockback? No. Will I be happy if we get one? Sure. Would I ever consider trading something as amazing as Obfuscate for it? Not in a million years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeedawg Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 I would rather have more ways to bring people to me, or get closer to them... or be immune to knockback This is something you learn fast though, do not place yourself where you can easily get pushed off to your death. Its not always that easy though i admit hehe. Seriously, im having lots of fun with this class it just takes some getting used to is all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GameDragon Posted January 31, 2012 Author Share Posted January 31, 2012 Ok, for what it's worth, I was just venting some frustration. I'm only level 20 so I don't have access to most of the skills you guys are talking about. I didn't mean to cause a big ruckus, I was just tweaked at getting knocked off of platforms every 3 seconds and not having any good way of stopping ball runners. Feel free to bash me for not being lvl 50, or say L2P, or whatever. Also, I really enjoy playing the marauder class, I just haven't gotten the hang of it yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkonnis Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 Ok, for what it's worth, I was just venting some frustration. I'm only level 20 so I don't have access to most of the skills you guys are talking about. I didn't mean to cause a big ruckus, I was just tweaked at getting knocked off of platforms every 3 seconds and not having any good way of stopping ball runners. Feel free to bash me for not being lvl 50, or say L2P, or whatever. Also, I really enjoy playing the marauder class, I just haven't gotten the hang of it yet. It gets better. Knock back is the least of our worries though you'll see To be fair the only use we would have would be in huttball, but if you wan't to stop peopl from scoring I would suggest using Ravage (with carnage ability they can't run away for 3 seconds) -> force choke -> cripling slash if you then can't kill them you shouldn't be doing huttball or pvp. Would love to see you try and kill my assassin with this. I'd knock you back, breaking ravage then laugh, force speed and score. Not to mention pop my def cooldowns if im getting beaten on, then score. Our use is to overwhelm people. Do i look like a sorc? is my job to control the flow of battle and stop people moving about? No, my job is to be relentless, the flow of battle should be fast, faster the better, my skills are instant, i have no interest in standing still or making anyone else stand still. Casting ravage is a double edged sword as anyone who is good and knows what they're doing will hit you with their channeled abilities, r stun you, or knock you back, or interrupt you, or break movement cc and move away and laugh as you get caught in the animation glitch forcing you to stand still beating on thin air. Seriously, if this is how you use your marauder, you are one of those not playing it right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotSevv Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 It gets better. Knock back is the least of our worries though you'll see Would love to see you try and kill my assassin with this. I'd knock you back, breaking ravage then laugh, force speed and score. Not to mention pop my def cooldowns if im getting beaten on, then score. Our use is to overwhelm people. Do i look like a sorc? is my job to control the flow of battle and stop people moving about? No, my job is to be relentless, the flow of battle should be fast, faster the better, my skills are instant, i have no interest in standing still or making anyone else stand still. Casting ravage is a double edged sword as anyone who is good and knows what they're doing will hit you with their channeled abilities, r stun you, or knock you back, or interrupt you, or break movement cc and move away and laugh as you get caught in the animation glitch forcing you to stand still beating on thin air. Seriously, if this is how you use your marauder, you are one of those not playing it right. Um maybe you play against bad mara's but sure break my ravage all I need to do is 1) hit any ability or swing my weapon and I'm not bugged and then still force choke you have 1 breaking ability correct? Also if your talking about channeling abilities either 1) you would be doing it and then either way I am stopping you from scoring or 2) there is more then a 1 on 1 situation in where your still running from a group of people. I always love assassin in general who think they are big **** because they have force speed to score, is it great hell yes it is. The point of that post was to show a simple way for people to stop them from scoring without knocking people off the ledge also, protip if a mara is force charging to start he is doing it wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth-Rion Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 Why would I as a juggernaught wan't a knock back when I have to be close to do my best damage? Hmm, works both ways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akilae Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 this. You're missing the awesomeness that is force push and then force charge. It's amazing for Juggs and would be a great addition for Marauders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kricys Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 So, as a melee class you'd want to knock people away from you... I mean i guess it's very considerate of you thinking of ranged classes so much. Just give em a head start at kiting you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quantum Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 Why would I as a mara wan't a knock back when I have to be close to do my best damage? I would gladly take a move to pull my enemy to me before I am given a knock back. So you can immediately do a Force Charge just another tool to add to a rotation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kromzor Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 (edited) Power Tech, No Knockback Operative, No Knockback Add in Mara and, how about that, almost half the classes don't have a knockback. Edited February 1, 2012 by Kromzor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alegoss Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 (edited) Obfuscate is auto win. Obfuscate, wait until it runs out, pop cloak of pain + saberward, wait for that to run out, undying rage when low. Youre damn near unkillable 1v1. but tell me when you will be ever be 1v1? unless your opponents team is utterly crap offcourse and scattered everywhere ^^ Obfuscate: I dont know on which abilities it really works on to counter but what i have experienced is following when i fight a marauder it works perfectly but when i encounter a smuggler he just rips through me like obfuscate has no effect i just wonder what the difference is , as i thought it was was generally taken for all attacks Edited February 1, 2012 by Alegoss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekryth Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 (edited) Obfuscate is auto win. Obfuscate, wait until it runs out, pop cloak of pain + saberward, wait for that to run out, undying rage when low. Youre damn near unkillable 1v1. I thought the same thing until today I was fighting a shadow in Illum.. I used all my cooldowns and he was pretty much dead, he used his combat stealth and came back at me within minutes fully healed with me having no cooldowns = dead mara... lol Hell, if Bioware wants mara's to play like a stealth class, just give me full stealth like assassins/ops (4 second stealth in ALOT of cases is nothing but delaying death in a 1v1 open environment fight) and be done with it... If you have to use your force camo vs a stealth based class, you will die, period. The only time mara's aren't "squishy" is when they have all their cooldowns up. I've kept ranting on before on how force choke needs to either deal double damage than what it currently does now or be an instant stun ability.. Forget force push as a mara, but throw me a f;'n bone already........... Edited February 1, 2012 by Ekryth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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