marthin Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 I did get doc now at lvl 35, i hear alot about how good he is. vs elit he is great, but vs regular mobs it takes for ever since he doesnt fight.... Fightning with kira is about 70% faster. So why pick Doc? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgemattson Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 The idea is that doc keeps you healed up so that, while you're taking out everything solo, he's keeping your health up to where you don't need to rest afterward. Just for myself, I was a bit questionable about the swap since I liked the extra DPS, but things do seem to go a lot faster for me when I've got Doc as my companion (whether elite or normal). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeroMystic Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 He's the far safer choice as Defense Guardian, and with DPS Guardian/Sentinel he actually is the better choice for Elite/Champion battles. Against trash mobs though, it doesn't really matter, but I do find it to be faster with Kira. Spending a few seconds healing back to full is less time invested compared to a slower kill time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azunai_ Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 the answer is simple, really - you don't pick doc if you don't need him summoning another companion takes about 2 seconds - so just stick with kira and summon doc if you know that you probably won't survive the next encounter without him. it's not terribly hard to keep his gear somewhat up to date either- as i understand the game mechanics, most of his healing power comes from the tech power on his pistol and scattergun (they contribute about 50% of his tech power and healing). so keep his main and offhand slot somewhat up to date and he will be good enough to heal you through most elite and some champion encounters if you use your defensive cooldowns wisely. at least, that's what i did and it worked for me through the whole campaign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meira_Arirai Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 (edited) Watchman Sentinel here. I'm a lot more survivable with Doc than Kira for groups of Strong/Elite/Champion stuff. When I'm blowing through groups of weaker NPCs, I use Kira. Edited January 29, 2012 by Meira_Arirai Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HakkyounoTenshi Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 Kira is better for DPS, but playing a defense Guardian I run with Doc. Running with Doc means I don't have to constantly pop medpacs, and to be honest I had gotten sick of Kira's comments because I had been running around with her so long. Now I will say that if I am grouped with a player that heals, I always bring Kira. But the fact is, when I am playing solo, Doc suits my playstyle far better than Kira. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KruelhandJorb Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 I run with Kira when questing until there's an Elite/storyline boss that I think I need heals for. Watchman can keep you going so that your breaks between pulls is relatively short. Plus as a cybertech doc has underworld bonus so I have him out on missions a lot :-D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
innermoppet Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 As a level 43 defense guardian, Doc normally slows me down. The only reason I pull him out is when the opposition relies heavily on internal/elemental damage (i.e. on Belsavis, there were a particular set of strong opponents who could layer 3 different internal damage ticks on me that did about 350 a tick each). If they don't, I just use Kira. Even when I have him out, I typically have him in his aggressive blaster stance because I really don't need as much healing as he can provide. I think the only exception to this rule so far was when I was doing the final mission for Chapter 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juumanistra Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 I did get doc now at lvl 35, i hear alot about how good he is. vs elit he is great, but vs regular mobs it takes for ever since he doesnt fight.... Fightning with kira is about 70% faster. So why pick Doc? There's your problem: You're at L35. Doc's value takes a while make itself manifest, because of how TOR's zone design is. As a Watchman Sentinel, I had the sentiments you did after getting Doc. The character is supposed to completely change the leveling experience, making things ever-so-much better...and he doesn't really do that out of the box. Especially if you've been keeping Kira well-geared, things actually get markedly harder if you switch to Doc immediately after getting him. Things change when you get to Belsavis, as Chapter 3 welcomes you with a bear bug of spiked enemy HP and throughput combined with the fact that you'll not be able to throw a stone without hitting a Strong. That's when ol' Doc starts really earning his keep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eatZecaai Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 With my lvl47 defense specced Guardian I never needed Doc for anything. Did fine with Kira all the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GweedoBane Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 With my lvl47 defense specced Guardian I never needed Doc for anything. Did fine with Kira all the way. Really? Interesting, I'm same specced and I often use Doc especially with elites/strongs etc. Anymore than 2-3 of those on you (without Doc) and they will own you I found. Certainly one on one wasn't a problem but where do you get that option in a dungeon area. To the op using Doc certainly makes things a lot easier in most situations and allows you to stay alive while you wade through the hordes, totally recommend using him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faolon Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 As a purely defense spec'd Guardian, I only used Doc for Champion fights, like the bonus series ones on Balmorra. Everything else was done with Kira. If I were DPS, I would use Doc instead. I know how to play my class well enough that I don't think I'd have trouble killing anything on my own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamzaBehoulve Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 (edited) Doc is the difference between killing 2 gold + grey and succeeding versus the same thing with Kira and dieing (Sentinel). This is a simple logic : if your DPS is much better than your companion, it's better to have you kill things than him/her. On the contrary, if you are the heavy tank taking 3 days to kill something, but can last an hour with 3 mobs beating you, then you need DPS to speed things up. Edited January 29, 2012 by RamzaBehoulve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eatZecaai Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 Really? Interesting, I'm same specced and I often use Doc especially with elites/strongs etc. Anymore than 2-3 of those on you (without Doc) and they will own you I found. Well, I'm not saying there were no close fights. Sometimes you have to use Force Stasis and Force Push to take a strong/elite out of the fight for a bit. And of course I have to use a medpack occasionally. Just saying, that I never ran into a fight that I couldn't win with Kira. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiceAvenger Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 i'm a level 37 guardian, so i've had doc for only a couple of levels but i reckon he's awesome. the fights are only slightly longer but you'll never have to use introspection after fights so overall gameplay is more time-efficient. i also had a much better time solo-ing heroic 2 quests with doc. i never need to pot or even use my shield generator, soresu form was enough. i have his blaster stance turned on so he helps with dps while he heals as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benseac Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 I went from 10-50 as a def spec'd guardian and used Kira 95ish% of the time. There were 2 class boss fights in the 40s I needed Doc's heals for and another class boss fight I had no choice as to who my companion was. Other than that, it was Kira and me for everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FobManX Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 The kill speed difference was marginal for me, but not having to rest after every group of mobs because I had Doc is huge. Overall it's much faster leveling with him even though you may kill stuff a little slower. And of course, Elites are a joke with Doc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atamosk Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 pick who you want and who fits your style there is no book saying which one is better, it is just opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shon_tsu Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 As I recall, with Doc you need to turn on some of his attacks. He's still nowhere near Kira, but it speeds things up a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philmors Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 It depends on your advanced class and spec. If you are dps then Doc is definately the better choice for everything but trash mobs. If you are a guardian tank, then Kira is pretty much good for everything but the tougher mob pulls (usually like 1 gold mob with extras or 2+ Silver Mobs) or bosses. Even then it's a matter of your gear and kira's gear at that point. On my level 50 guardian, I find myself using Kira 75% of the time now that I have both Kira and Doc maxed out on Affection. She makes killing stuff so much faster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravrohan Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 Combat Sentinel, I ran with Kira up until I got Scourge. Without an issue I used her for everything short of boss fights. Yes it could have been easier using Doc all along, but that was why I did it that way. I was a masochist so I could continuously learn and relearn just what my class could do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhoR Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 Every time I see this question discussed, it's always a decision between Kira and Doc. Why does no one use Rusk? His aoe Dps dominates Kira's for groups of weak mobs, doesn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asparhruk Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 Running Combat Sent i find Kira useless after some point and Doc just perfect. Mobs later on start hitting harder without increasing their defences (hp and armor) a lot. I simply destroy them so fast with Combat Sent that i don't need another dps. What i need is more survivability and less downtime and Doc is just the right choice for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
innermoppet Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 Every time I see this question discussed, it's always a decision between Kira and Doc. Why does no one use Rusk? His aoe Dps dominates Kira's for groups of weak mobs, doesn't it? He doesn't look as good in the dancer outfit to me. Although, I guess opinions on that could vary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keypek Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 As a sentinel I've rarely used Kira up to level 29 now. Been T7 all the way. Little sucker takes all the agro with his 6 orange modded gear while I melt everything on him in seconds. Kira is nice and all but harder to find gear (had to buy the leia bikini outift just so she'd have something good to wear) and never takes agro away from me so I just end up getting beat around every fight. The better question for me is who do I use when I get doc... him or T7? Will have to experiment on that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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