Sourceerror Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 < level 50 has expertise gear? this is news to me. BREAKING NEWS: You can have over 100 expertise before level 50. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fidopro Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 its funny earlier I was complaining about people doing this but after reading how the 50 bracket is right now I fully understand not wanting to make the jump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drakks Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 We all know the best pvp in the game is 10-49, and that level 50 pvp is nothing but long queues to warzones filled with pre-made teams of kids running around in full champ/bm gear farming new 50's until they quit/unsub/re-roll. To counter this could they simply add a button so we can stop getting any xp, that will prevent us from ever getting to 50 and having to keep re-rolling. Because you want to sit at 49 killing lower levels? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aghar Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 So many people don't understand that skill =/= knowing which button to push when. Skill is much broader than that. Skill is knowing when to engage, when not to engage, when to run when to stand, when to interupt, what gear to use (trust me all of 1 set is almost never the best choice). What stats to mod, what stats to keep. Knowing the range of your team, knowing your own personal range. Skill has so much to do with winning that while yes gear is a factor, a sub par geared but much better skilled player will still roll over a crappy 100% battlemaster geared player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pistols Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 These threads fill me with joy. =) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kckkryptonite Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 I would camp my Operative alt at 49 and twink all day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceManLoneWolf Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 Why not just fix PVP at 50? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evuke Posted January 23, 2012 Author Share Posted January 23, 2012 Why not just fix PVP at 50? BW have shown they're more about nerfs rather than fixes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sourceerror Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 Why not just fix PVP at 50? Why not just adapt to the system? Bad players try to change the system to fit them. Good players adapt. You have just as much possibility to gear out as anyone else. Champ gear in this game is practically welfare gear. Not to mention, the whole concept of staying at 49 isn't much different than getting a bunch of pvp gear at 50. You are taking any advantage you can. Quit complaining and hit 50, get your welfare pvp gear and then find out it doesn't help you clickers and back-peddlers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bionixx Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 OMG this thread is hilarious. Why do you think there are long queues at 50? Because the majority of players are 1-49. As more and more get to max level, the queues will become shorter and shorter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Shadowfist- Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 Quit complaining and hit 50, get your welfare pvp gear and then find out it doesn't help you clickers and back-peddlers. Bah, then we'll just hear complaints about how bindings are OP and we should only be allowed to bind one row of keys, and that back-peddling should move faster than running forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EscVelocity Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 I'd be fine with that. Even though I'm on my way to 50 to go against the odds and fight through the pre-mades. I score a lot in Huttball without getting a high number of kills or putting out a lot of damage. Just be a little creative and smart in different situations and you can always find a way (where there is a will). I think they should turn off the options to gain XP and allow you commendations to keep buying boxes and stims, etc. The 1% expertise or whatever you get with your weapon is not like some "god mode" like people make it out to be. Maybe it'll make your fight 3-5 seconds shorter. grats? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sourceerror Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 Bah, then we'll just hear complaints about how bindings are OP and we should only be allowed to bind one row of keys, and that back-peddling should move faster than running forward. True, I think maybe the ability delay was put in to level the playing field for clickers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orangerascal Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 We all know the best pvp in the game is 10-49, and that level 50 pvp is nothing but long queues to warzones filled with pre-made teams of kids running around in full champ/bm gear farming new 50's until they quit/unsub/re-roll. To counter this could they simply add a button so we can stop getting any xp, that will prevent us from ever getting to 50 and having to keep re-rolling. Sounds like the level 49 wants to farm lower levels .... puts the 'filled with pre-made teams of kids running around in full champ/bm gear farming new 50's' into perspective now doesn't it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sraom Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 I would like an experience lock as well, even if locked people can only get in warzone with other locked people. (and hopefully, this special warzone queue is cross-server, this is my wishful thinking.) Because in my opinion, PvP and gear progression don't get along. Gear progression has to take PvE people into account. PvE gear progression should be steep, because company could set gear check bosses, it could give people more incentives to grind gear and etc; while PvP gear progression should be flat, because getting roflstomped is frustrating, roflstomping others is boring. Pre-50 PvP is fun because everyone has similar gear. For locked experience PvP, it's easy to get the best, or near best gear (crafting) so everyone can still have similar gear. In WoW, too. In Cataclysm I had the most fun PvP in Alterac Valley during level 70-74, because everyone is in Brutal Gladiator gear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sourceerror Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 The 1% expertise or whatever you get with your weapon is not like some "god mode" like people make it out to be. Maybe it'll make your fight 3-5 seconds shorter. grats? It's a removable enhancement Captain Ahab. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exiled-Phoenix Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 LOL why dont you just lvl up so more 50s are at the war zone there? You just want to pick on noobs for easy commendations, bad kid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knifewrench Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 (edited) We all know the best pvp in the game is 10-49, and that level 50 pvp is nothing but long queues to warzones filled with pre-made teams of kids running around in full champ/bm gear farming new 50's until they quit/unsub/re-roll. Translation: I don't want to do the work because then I'd have to get gear at 50, and that's no fun. Here, I can max my gear at 49, have a ridiculous amount of HP and power, and go back to squashing level 10s without any challenge. And if anyone complains about what I'm doing, I'll just tell them "get to level 49 or stop playing." Edited January 23, 2012 by Knifewrench Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrackrJakz Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 Translation: I don't want to do the work because then I'd have to get gear at 50, and that's no fun. Here, I can max my gear at 49, have a ridiculous amount of HP and power, and go back to squashing level 10s without any challenge. And if anyone complains about what I'm doing, I'll just tell them "get to level 49 or stop playing." ^^ Thank you for the translation knife... Port Nowhere win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceManLoneWolf Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 (edited) Why not just adapt to the system? Bad players try to change the system to fit them. Good players adapt.So I take it you don't ever have any criticisms of any games you play because you are one of these so called "good adaptable" players, right? And anyone that continues to play the game is going to be forced to adapt, but that doesn't mean they aren't going to long for something better. Edited January 23, 2012 by IceManLoneWolf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sourceerror Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 So I take it you don't ever have any criticisms of any games you play because you are one of these so called "good adaptable" players, right? And anyone that continues to play the game period is forced to adapt, but that doesn't mean they aren't going to long for something better. There's a difference between things that are broken like ability lockups that require you to deselect a target and complaining that when you turn 50, you get rolled by players with better gear in a gear-based game. You are saying this in a thread where people want to stay at 49 to roll 10s instead of going to 50 and getting rolled by expertise for what would be less than a week if they attempted to get gear. You will be forced to adapt in every game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evuke Posted January 23, 2012 Author Share Posted January 23, 2012 (edited) There's a difference between things that are broken like ability lockups that require you to deselect a target and complaining that when you turn 50, you get rolled by players with better gear in a gear-based game. You are saying this in a thread where people want to stay at 49 to roll 10s instead of going to 50 and getting rolled by expertise for what would be less than a week if they attempted to get gear. You will be forced to adapt in every game. Tbh it's more these 2hr queues for the 50 warzones people are talking about that worry me. Edited January 23, 2012 by Evuke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sourceerror Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 Tbh it's more these 2hr queues for the 50 warzones people are talking about that worry me. My queues as Imperial on Belgoth's Beacon are at the most 5 minutes, but are usually up when I get out of my last warzone. So, yeah, I doubt it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobNightfall Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 This creates more problems than it solves, because you end up with twinks who grind their characters for max gear at their level and then they run around and stomp 90% of players because they have the good gear. So long as gear is more than appearance, the problem that faces all PvPers when we reach 50 will still be present. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJMazz Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 I agree with "Stop XP" only if this option stops the player from getting any other warzone rewards as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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