mharratsc Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 To be honest I think the pre-order date does actually factor somewhat. The beta was never meant as a 'demo' for you to try out the game and see if you liked it, it was to collect data and make the game better. by letting in early pre-orders first they reward loyal customers who pre-ordered the game when less was known about it and simply pre-ordered in faith they would enjoy it Some sort of justification was not my point. My point was- there were more people ordering in December, after the last Beta weekend, than the OP surmised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KamikazeNiki Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 To reward those who pre-ordered early maybe? Why should someone who pre-ordered their game yesterday be entitled the same early access as a person who pre-ordered October 4th? Not everyone was able to preorder early, and it's not out of "laziness" or whatever. Many waited until after the beta, didn't have the money, many other factors in between. I don't see how a preorder in December isn't as important as a preorder in August. The fact that they DID preorder is what matters, and I don't think they are using EGA as a reward system in that sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loseriticus Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 You are joking right? Why is that a joke? People who preordered first get in first. I don't understand this confusion and your bizarre reasoning that they should just let in the rest of the December people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhinoplat Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 Its your fault you waited until you had hands on before you preordered. Everyone knows all the mmo's realeased in the past couple of years have kicked ***!? maybe next time bioware puts something out on the market you'll pay for it immediately and not be punished? Lol, None of the MMO's that have been published since 2004 have been anything but garbage. Vanguard Age of Conan Darkfall Mortal Online Warhammer LotR The only 2 games that have been good to me were released in 2003/2004; EvE online and Shadowbane. After that games went really downhill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choxor Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 Great they are trying to expand into a new marked and basically didn't understand alot of people in this market want to test drive a game before they buy it. At the very least they are back where they started with loyal customer base of solo single person players in a mmo market. Pissed off most the same people trying to get into the game Take a Mcdonalds 2 for 1 deal. If you are drawn there for the deal but end up waiting for 30 min for your food was that promotion successful? YOU had a choice. Pre-order EARLY (hardcore fans) and be rewarded. Test drive the game LATER and still be rewarded, but not as much. Now you want just as much reward as those that made a higher risk move? You must not have much experience in financial markets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boxerxx Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 Its your fault you waited until you had hands on before you preordered. Everyone knows all the mmo's realeased in the past couple of years have kicked ***!? maybe next time bioware puts something out on the market you'll pay for it immediately and not be punished? lmfao since when it is illegal to try something and then order it...all we are doing is making sure the game isnt a 70$ economic risk i personally bought rift and was dissapoointed so i waited to try the game before i pre-orderd...so naturally im a lesser player and shud be punished? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fugara Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 Lol, None of the MMO's that have been published since 2004 have been anything but garbage. Vanguard Age of Conan Darkfall Mortal Online Warhammer LotR The only 2 games that have been good to me were released in 2003/2004; EvE online and Shadowbane. After that games went really downhill. That was my point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fubbik Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 People should take a chill pill and get some objectivity into their heads. I was hoping to get in before the weekend and as I registered on Dec 2nd I wasn't too sure about it. I am glad that they let everyone in by friday and can't understand the fits people are throwing in here. You do realize we get 4 days of EGA, starting one day after the original time set and all that despite being slackers who ordered just over a week ago ? Get over yourselves and stop whining. (I didn't preorder earlier since I didn't think my computer would run it properly, but Beta showed me it did ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skullfang Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 ^^This... I know a few people personally that didn't even think they were going to get the game until they got to play in the last beta weekends during the stress test. I'm betting there was a pretty heavy spike of pre-orders in late November/early December. Even more if you count the people that might be giving this game as a Christmas present for someone else, and didn't even think about early access. I was definitely in the group that was undecided until after the stress test. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rizael Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 I'm in the December group, however I am pleased they told us a rough estimate of when we could expect to be in. Thanks Bioware thats all a bunch of us ever wanted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pocketthesaurus Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 Ohhhh I don't know, both paid the same exact price for the game yeah? Sure, but think of it from a business standpoint. The earlier you ordered, the better for them. When it comes to Origin orders, they definitely get 100% of the money (since it's run by EA), so they benefit by the people who ordered first... Hence they reward them more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kozor Posted December 15, 2011 Author Share Posted December 15, 2011 (edited) Why is that a joke? People who preordered first get in first. I don't understand this confusion and your bizarre reasoning that they should just let in the rest of the December people. I paid the same amount of money FFS, why am I punished for not being a fanboy and not paying for a product while not knowing a single thing about it because of Bioware's terrible NDA policy??? This whole launch is a failure in its very concept. Getting fanboys in first and ignoring the rest, **** that **** Edited December 15, 2011 by Kozor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaGicBush Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 To reward those who pre-ordered early maybe? Why should someone who pre-ordered their game yesterday be entitled the same early access as a person who pre-ordered October 4th? Because that's how every other game launch in history has done it maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cristobel Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 Stephen Reid hasn't said that all of November gets in tomorrow. He said up to the last week of November, which likely means the 23rd or 24th. I'm Nov 30 so i will get the same access as the December orders too. I could have ordered back in July but after being burned by previous peices of junk, I chose to wait. Friday is a good day because it's FRIDAY!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthHovak Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 (edited) I'm in the December group, however I am pleased they told us a rough estimate of when we could expect to be in. Thanks Bioware thats all a bunch of us ever wanted It's been pretty widely speculated all day that Firday was the all in day. Going by the trends Bioware has been following with their invite schedule, most people were smart enough to figure out that worst case scenario was Friday with a fairly good chance of tomorrow. Now you got it confirmed that you are getting the worst case scenario and you are happy about it? Gimme some of w t f you are drinking please. Edited December 15, 2011 by DarthHovak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fugara Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 This was absolutely nothing more than a marketing scheme. Has nothing to do with the stability of the servers or the problems you are usually faced with on a launch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kalexkhan Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 (edited) Who cares. It's their rollout. I see, you think they're doing it to personally screw with you. That has to be it! There can't be some well thought out reason that a team would do something for a multi-million dollar project! Get over yourself You should have ordered earlier. Yup, that statement's getting old, but it'll never get LESS TRUE. You are right, but that will never change the fact that this whole thing is leaving a bad taste in MY mouth. Thats great that you have a different tolerance for how these things launch and I can't expect you to care about mine, and I hate to be identified as someone who has higher expectations than for what bioware can deliver... Nevertheless, if the launch has been soured for me, thats kind of unfortunate for me. I was looking forward to playing with my friends this week, as it were they who finally convinced me to hop on board and play this game, not anything bioware did particularly. Yet it was their policies that alienated me from the launch experience along side the few that entered codes from July I wanted to play with. Theirs self-generated scenario's we can play through in our minds, where they roll alts and pretend, but i'll never get that chance back that bioware NEVER OWED ME, but again, kinda sucks it wasn't meant to be. Lets just hope this game kicks *** and starting off on the wrong foot is something people like me will get over. - Just another self entitled, selfish gamer. Edited December 15, 2011 by kalexkhan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicain Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 Doesn't need to make sense. BW knows you're all going to bend over and take it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthHovak Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 This was absolutely nothing more than a marketing scheme. Has nothing to do with the stability of the servers or the problems you are usually faced with on a launch. This And its a giant load of bantha fodder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter_Este Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 "that will take us up to the last week or so of November" OR SO AKA: Possibly more. Calm yourself; whatever will be, will be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevlarkent Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 Sure, but think of it from a business standpoint. The earlier you ordered, the better for them. When it comes to Origin orders, they definitely get 100% of the money (since it's run by EA), so they benefit by the people who ordered first... Hence they reward them more. To all those that say a person in Dec shouldn't have the same rights as a person that ordered in Oct ok I hear ya but your missing a huge point. Does a person who ordered Nov 20th deserve the same rights as a person that ordered Oct 4th? Well guess what? They are getting it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flayky Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 Im freaking out here. i entered my code november 30. they said last week of november. does that include me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skullfang Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 I'm in the December group, however I am pleased they told us a rough estimate of when we could expect to be in. Thanks Bioware thats all a bunch of us ever wanted ^ This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rawfox Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 I bet it's more than that. The wife and I didn't pre-order until we had a chance to check out the game in the last beta weekend... I bet there were plenty of others who did the same. /shrug ya, many of us did so. BWs fault, letting us beta SWTOR that late .. look when i regged to forums, so i regged to beta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuriZap Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 To reward those who pre-ordered early maybe? Why should someone who pre-ordered their game yesterday be entitled the same early access as a person who pre-ordered October 4th? Your argument consists of a question Such argument is invalid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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