POINGjam Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 The recent patch has been causing damage to players' graphics cards. I'm sure it's in the EULA that users accept liability for system damage sustained while running the game (as it is in pretty much every game's EULA), but isn't this taking advantage of the customer? It's unreasonable to expect consumers to buy software at the risk of hundreds of dollars of equipment damage. If a car manufacturer puts out a product with faulty brakes, they get called on it, issue a recall, and compensate customers for any related damages (that includes property). I get that we won't see a dime in compensation for the damage to our systems from SWTOR, but what can we do to change the PC game industry's practice of putting all liability on the consumer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhazz Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 3rd party software doesn't cause video cards to malfunction. A bad video card causes video cards to malfunction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QDMcGraw Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 The recent patch has been causing damage to players' graphics cards. I'm sure it's in the EULA that users accept liability for system damage sustained while running the game (as it is in pretty much every game's EULA), but isn't this taking advantage of the customer? It's unreasonable to expect consumers to buy software at the risk of hundreds of dollars of equipment damage. If a car manufacturer puts out a product with faulty brakes, they get called on it, issue a recall, and compensate customers for any related damages (that includes property). I get that we won't see a dime in compensation for the damage to our systems from SWTOR, but what can we do to change the PC game industry's practice of putting all liability on the consumer? Awesome! Software code is causing hardware damage. Yeah, worst. Troll Evar! Go back to your bridge with this nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gryn Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 how is it causing damage? not trolling... genuinely curious... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tumpai Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 those players are probably overclocking to the extreame and not turning their fans on high lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
valgar Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 I would think all you could do is not buy the product right out of the gate, wait a few months then buy it. Or if it still happening all you can do is call it a bad product and move to a differant one. If potato's give you gas all the time, wouldn't you stop eating potatos? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyntric Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 how is it causing damage? not trolling... genuinely curious... It's not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synesism Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 3rd party software doesn't cause video cards to malfunction. A bad video card causes video cards to malfunction. ^this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thamelas Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 3rd party software doesn't cause video cards to malfunction. A bad video card causes video cards to malfunction. Incorrect. A couple years back, Nvidia put out drivers that killed people's cards. It caused them to be over-worked, and caused massive overheating even though the cards temps showed as 60-70 on temp monitors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hardicon Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 i thought people had to have accounts to post. dont tell me this person spent 60 bucks plus another 15 to continue to make up lies and bash a game for no reason. I mean i thought i did not have a life but i think this person beats me in that department now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truedark Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 Only software running in Ring 0 and Ring 1 can actively damage your hardware. SWTOR runs in neither therefor it cannot damage your GPU or any of your hardware. There has to be a pre existing issue for it to possibly damage your computer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nytak Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 Incorrect. A couple years back, Nvidia put out drivers that killed people's cards. It caused them to be over-worked, and caused massive overheating even though the cards temps showed as 60-70 on temp monitors. That isn't third party software, those are drivers which directly control how the hardware works. Third party software can't kill video cards. Poor cooling, bad video cards, and bad drivers kill video cards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannomite Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 Incorrect. A couple years back, Nvidia put out drivers that killed people's cards. It caused them to be over-worked, and caused massive overheating even though the cards temps showed as 60-70 on temp monitors. Drivers and applications aren't the same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calsi Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 how is it causing damage? not trolling... genuinely curious... The rumor is that it's causing some cards to run hot enough to die. I've yet to see anyone say that it happened to them. It's always someone else. My experience is that my video card is running cooler in the last couple of patches that it was in beta. /shrug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andryah Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 those players are probably overclocking to the extreame and not turning their fans on high lol And jamming biscuits in their exhaust ports to warm them up to melt some butter on them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sykologist Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 When I went outside today, to get the mail, I opened my mailbox and it gave me cancer. I am currently seeking damages from the mailbox. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyInternets Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 3rd party software doesn't cause video cards to malfunction. A bad video card causes video cards to malfunction. Please feel free to prove this statement by downloading RivaTuner and overclocking your GPU by 500%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liberate Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 i thought people had to have accounts to post. dont tell me this person spent 60 bucks plus another 15 to continue to make up lies and bash a game for no reason. I mean i thought i did not have a life but i think this person beats me in that department now. My sub has been cancelled since early this month, were still on our free month or the system is bugged and I can still post. I would not pay $14.99 to talk to 'fans' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QDMcGraw Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 Please feel free to prove this statement by downloading RivaTuner and overclocking your GPU by 500%. Again, drivers are not programs, they're.. wait for it... DRIVERS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcfabulous Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 Incorrect. A couple years back, Nvidia put out drivers that killed people's cards. It caused them to be over-worked, and caused massive overheating even though the cards temps showed as 60-70 on temp monitors. I lost my old radion x850 back in the day because a driver i installed luckily they sent me one of the more recent models to make up for it which was good because it sucked anyways imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cormey Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 Every new game that comes out has someone complaining that it destroyed some part of their computer, everything from GPU's to HDD's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lundli Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 Please feel free to prove this statement by downloading RivaTuner and overclocking your GPU by 500%. Well. there's no cure for stupidity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHeadCapper Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 'citation please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazmtyh Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 Incorrect. A couple years back, Nvidia put out drivers that killed people's cards. It caused them to be over-worked, and caused massive overheating even though the cards temps showed as 60-70 on temp monitors. That's not 3rd party software... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andryah Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 My experience is that my video card is running cooler in the last couple of patches that it was in beta. /shrug Same experience. Getting nominally better fps with each patch, and modest decreases in average thermals on my GPU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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