Godjinrai Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 ^This. People are just here to whine about the game, but secretly they can't stop playing it. most of us that paid for the game are probably here because the forums are more enjoyable then the game is.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
byteresistor Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 The game isn't dead, some servers however... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHeadCapper Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 wow is just turning into a rehash machine and cata is proof of that. Now they're going to rehash scholomance like they did zul gurub, shadowfang keep, black rock, etc etc. They are going to bring nothing new they will just keep updating old content because the mouth breathers dont know the difference, they're on autopilot which is what blizzard loves. Pretty much. Funny how some seem to be really scared of SWTOR that they need to keep posting their hate about it. They have bascially become fanbois of hate with no perception of reality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themistocles Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 (edited) its funny that the highest grossing opening for a mmo all time is TOR it sold what 2 million copies? And its dead? Also saying EA/Bioware wont make their money back and Profits it a bit of an overstatement. So say 2million copies were sold at launch 70 bucks is the median for CE and the regular edition combined (it would probably be higher seeing as many CE Speeders i see in the game) thats 140 Million dollars in the first month. Add the 14.99 they are getting ready to collect from most and the game cards people bought. thats a pretty good first month. Edited January 20, 2012 by themistocles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MackumDog Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 I remember yesterday everyone said the game would be dead today. Still truckin'. Now the consensus is Monday. Cant we all just accept that the game, regardless of its mediocrity, will be successful? No it wont kill wow (also mediocre), but its going to do fine. Everything in the entertainment industry is mediocre. Avatar made a billion dolars in thearters. mediocre ... is what people want and expect, they cannot accept high standards because that comes at a high price and too expensive for the throw away socity we live in now. If they made this game a complex game, with complex equipment and tough skills with severe punishments for failing, then the gamers would not dare to play, they want it simple enough that they succeed as quickly as possible and then they can move on to the next shiny new thing. Like all businesses now, they look at the bottom line, there is no interest in invention or innovation, thats expense. We could once fly across the atlantic in 3 hours, we could once go to the moon, and in software terms we are in the same position, Cheap and quick,.... mediocre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RycheMykola Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 WoW has much more end game content than any other MMO on the market: Tons of dailies (more so than any MMO) Battlegrounds (more so than any MMO) Rated Battle grounds Arena World pvp (tol borad, etc) Raiding Heroics Achievements. Running the same 2 5man dungeons and the same raid every day/week gets boring. Dailies get boring, for any game. If you read any patch notes, rated WZ's are coming. Heroics? Hardmodes here. Achievements? Thats here too. Codex. If you like WOW better. Have fun with the Kung Fu Pandas and Pokemon battles. Make sure to keep your full tummy buff up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triassic Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 Dead ? No. Dying ? Yes = http://www.swtorarena.com/statistics/ Wait about six months before making any analysis in order to see either a complete decline or a leveling out. One month = nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papazooki Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 Running the same 2 5man dungeons and the same raid every day/week gets boring. Dailies get boring, for any game. If you read any patch notes, rated WZ's are coming. Heroics? Hardmodes here. Achievements? Thats here too. Codex. So essentially you just scuffed off all my points by saying 'it's boring'. MMOs are not for you then, my friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowflyingmeat Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 its funny that the highest grossing opening for a mmo all time is TOR it sold what 2 million copies? Also saying EA/Bioware wont make their money back and Profits it a bit of an overstatement. So say 2million copies were sold at launch 70 bucks is the median for CE and the regular edition combined (it would probably be higher seeing as many CE Speeders i see in the game) thats 140 Million dollars in the first month. Add the 14.99 they are getting ready to collect from most and the game cards people bought. thats a pretty good first month. It cost them 500 million alone to acquire Mythic, this is besides the estimated 500 million in development costs put into SWTOR. They have yet to hit "0". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daedricshots Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 Good post, you just showed me you know nothing of what they intend to do in MoP. And i dont care either. Nice job exposing your fanboyism and you're just trolling. So easy to debunk you kid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papazooki Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 And i dont care either. All I needed to hear, have a good day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RycheMykola Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 mediocre ... is what people want and expect, they cannot accept high standards because that comes at a high price and too expensive for the throw away socity we live in now. If they made this game a complex game, with complex equipment and tough skills with severe punishments for failing, then the gamers would not dare to play, they want it simple enough that they succeed as quickly as possible and then they can move on to the next shiny new thing. Like all businesses now, they look at the bottom line, there is no interest in invention or innovation, thats expense. We could once fly across the atlantic in 3 hours, we could once go to the moon, and in software terms we are in the same position, Cheap and quick,.... mediocre Exactly, in WOW, you can smash your hand on your keyboard for 15 minutes and grab easy epics from 5 man heroics. Thats what the MAJORITY wants. Sure, this game has some issues and needs some work, but I still enjoy this the most out of all MMO's. It will only get better. If it doesn't, theres a Fallout MMO and Zombie Apolcolypse MMO in the works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmandaBynes Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 So essentially you just scuffed off all my points by saying 'it's boring'. MMOs are not for you then, my friend. Isn't it funny that all these random WoW haters here don't realize that this game is exactly like wow? MMOs havn't been very different in years. How can you like this game and hate wow when the gameplay and everything is the exact same. Oh yeah this game talks to you, big deal lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halofax Posted January 20, 2012 Author Share Posted January 20, 2012 Wait about six months before making any analysis in order to see either a complete decline or a leveling out. One month = nothing. SWTORarena only uses the 5 options to assess the playerbase. That huge downsloping graph is actually just showing the game going from Full > Standard. That doesnt mean people quit, it just means the people who were on holiday and cracking 12 hours a day went back to work. Vilify me as you will, but the game has 215 server all at standard. Thats far from dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miffy Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 When is the resub day? The game hasn't asked me to pay yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemmar Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 (edited) I was looking forward to this game, but it failed. I will try it again if it goes F2P. You might have to wait quite a while... if not forever. Oh and it didnt fail at all. Sorry. Edited January 20, 2012 by Nemmar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papazooki Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 Exactly, in WOW, you can smash your hand on your keyboard for 15 minutes and grab easy epics from 5 man heroics. Thats what the MAJORITY wants. Sure, this game has some issues and needs some work, but I still enjoy this the most out of all MMO's. It will only get better. If it doesn't, theres a Fallout MMO and Zombie Apolcolypse MMO in the works. Zombie MMO? That sounds like fun (serious). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daedricshots Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 All I needed to hear, have a good day Cant bring yourself to go back to wow? Poor kid angry and trolling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papazooki Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 Isn't it funny that all these random WoW haters here don't realize that this game is exactly like wow? MMOs havn't been very different in years. How can you like this game and hate wow when the gameplay and everything is the exact same. Oh yeah this game talks to you, big deal lol. Gameplay is nowhere near as responsive and smooth as it is for WoW. That and SWTOR is missing a TON of features. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yfelsung Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 To know what you like, you would of had to try it out in the first place with an unbiased opinion. Very nice paradox my friend. No I wouldn't. That's like saying I have to buy the newest Lady Gaga album to know I won't like it. I know what kind of music she makes, so I know I'm not going to like it. I can see what they're adding and subtracting from WoW and I can tell it's stuff I don't like. They're adding Pandas, which is stupid, Pokemon pet battles, which is stupid, an Asian themed continent, which I have no interest in, a dumbed down talent system, which I dislike (I like complicated). I can see all the stuff they're adding and I don't need to take a bite out of a poo sandwich to know it'll taste bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmandaBynes Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 (edited) Gameplay is nowhere near as responsive and smooth as it is for WoW. That and SWTOR is missing a TON of features. I completely agree, I'm just saying that the core features of MMOs have been the same forever. yet all these people hate WoW because it's popular. Edited January 20, 2012 by Notannos rude Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papazooki Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 Vilify me as you will, but the game has 215 server all at standard. Thats far from dead. Actually, most are light now. This even includes prime time hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamuraBob_Fl Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 Exactly, in WOW, you can smash your hand on your keyboard for 15 minutes and grab easy epics from 5 man heroics. Thats what the MAJORITY wants. Sure, this game has some issues and needs some work, but I still enjoy this the most out of all MMO's. It will only get better. If it doesn't, theres a Fallout MMO and Zombie Apolcolypse MMO in the works. That's not true at all. My arcane mage used TWO buttons for max dps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halofax Posted January 20, 2012 Author Share Posted January 20, 2012 (edited) I completely agree, I'm just saying that the core features of MMOs have been the same forever, yet all these people hate WoW because it's popular. I dont hate wow. I love SWTOR. they are different things. Edited January 20, 2012 by Notannos rude quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyDozen Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 When is the resub day? The game hasn't asked me to pay yet. My account still says something like it's about to renew. My bill date changed last night from the 19th to the 20th. I still haven't been billed yet. So I don't know, maybe they're investigating all the claims of errors and no "cancel" button made by people here and have it on hold for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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