Seraphical Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 (edited) Operations Karagga’s Palace Fixed an issue that caused assigned loot bags in Karagga’s Palace to distribute items with class inappropriate stats. PvP Ilum Players can no longer enter the opposing faction’s safe base area, thus preventing players from continually "camping" the other faction's base. Turrets inside faction bases were not intended to be destroyed and are now immune to damage. The population cap for instances of Ilum has been reduced to improve performance. Implemented optimizations to improve performance on Ilum. Miscellaneous Bug Fixes Loading screens no longer appear when other players spawn nearby. Something broke, they fessed up, shutdown the ability to grief/exploit once they realized it and then immediately patched the problem AND rolled back Valor points. Did they fix EVERYTHING overnight? No, but they did the right thing here. Some people never want to see the positive. Tell me what part of this particular fix did they do the WRONG thing? Edited January 20, 2012 by Seraphical Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoOhm Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 They didnt do anything wrong, but they didnt fix many of them either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oflow Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 (edited) They need to shut the game down for two weeks revamp the engine and fix the endgame. Make an official apology post admitting they suck and didnt listen to their players. Everyone that quit would come back and the game would flourish. But they are gonna take the standard use the PR guy to talk in circles, patch a few things break a few others, heavily censor the forums when people complain and basically let the game sink because ME3 will launch and they wont care. Edited January 20, 2012 by oflow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hattertea Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 They need to shut the game down for two weeks revamp the engine and fix the endgame. Make an official apology post admitting they suck and didnt listen to their players. Everyone that quit would come back and the game would flourish. But they are gonna take the standard use the PR guy to talk in circles, patch a few things break a few others, heavily censor the forums when people complain and basically let the game sink because ME3 will launch and they wont care. I'm curious... What would shutting the game down do? Bioware actively works on updates, fixes, and what have you whether the game is running or not. I also doubt they could fix the engine in two weeks not to mention whatever is wrong with the end game. Though I do enjoy seeing such blanket arguments crop up everywhere. Also Mass Effect 3 and SWTOR is handled by two different teams at two different studios. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RagnarokJC Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 Tell me what part of this particular fix did they do the WRONG thing? They didn't: - Give everyone a free year of game time. - Give the loudest complainers gold-plated speeders that boost movement speed by 250%. - Give those complainers each 500k credits. - Tell everyone that they are failures and rolled out a game that's still in the Alpha stage. - Bring world peace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oflow Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 you obviously dont work at a job where you actually fix things that are broken. Taking the system totally offline would give them time to actually fix things without having to waste resources maintaining the system will its running. It would also give them a break from all the raging ppl telling all their other friends to quit too. I can garauntee a person that heard 'we are taking down the game for an extended period to fix it' would be more willing to wait than a person playing the same broken features everyday while all they get is 'we're aware of the issue and investigating it.' And even if ME3 is made by a different BW local studio they all answer to the same boss somewhere and its all part of the BW bottom line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slightlycampana Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 you obviously dont work at a job where you actually fix things that are broken. Taking the system totally offline would give them time to actually fix things without having to waste resources maintaining the system will its running. You gain +20 Trolling. So subtle, yet so effective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRealBrave Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 Something broke, they fessed up, shutdown the ability to grief/exploit once they realized it and then immediately patched the problem AND rolled back Valor points. Did they fix EVERYTHING overnight? No, but they did the right thing here. Some people never want to see the positive. Tell me what part of this particular fix did they do the WRONG thing? No they didn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UjellyTrollicus Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 They didn't: - Give everyone a free year of game time. - Give the loudest complainers gold-plated speeders that boost movement speed by 250%. - Give those complainers each 500k credits. - Tell everyone that they are failures and rolled out a game that's still in the Alpha stage. - Bring world peace don't forget the worse one of all! they didn't even cure cancer FFS these bastards had how many trillion dollars of budget, and not only do they make us pay to play their broken pre-alpha build, but they didn't even cure cancer! and that was like the number 1 thing on the pre-pre-alpha forums for WEEKS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UjellyTrollicus Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 No they didn't. not full rollbacks no, but they removed valor from many people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRealBrave Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 not full rollbacks no, but they removed valor from many people. No they didn't. They did not remove Valor from anybody. They merely stated in damage control mode last night that they would - and they didn't. Nobody lost a single point of Valor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fro_do_fraggins Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 They needed rollbacks of yesterdays valor and implement valor daily caps for Ilum. It should supplement your valor, not be the main source of it. I also assume that limiting shard sizes will mean lots of shards with just the oversized faction and no opponents? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hattertea Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 Yeah... developers don't deal with the active systems.... nor worry about them... in fact it helps them that people are playing the game... because it gives them data that locates bugs.. Hmm nevermind... I obviously don't know how this stuff works because I am not a working man... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erosith Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 They need to shut the game down for two weeks revamp the engine and fix the endgame. Make an official apology post admitting they suck and didnt listen to their players. Everyone that quit would come back and the game would flourish. But they are gonna take the standard use the PR guy to talk in circles, patch a few things break a few others, heavily censor the forums when people complain and basically let the game sink because ME3 will launch and they wont care. what your are proposing would take alot longer then 2 weeks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UjellyTrollicus Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 No they didn't. They did not remove Valor from anybody. They merely stated in damage control mode last night that they would - and they didn't. Nobody lost a single point of Valor. and how exactly are you able to prove this? let me get this straight. we are supposed to assume that bioware isn't telling us the truth, but we are also supposed to assume that you, some random nobody is? you sure you aren't spouting more forum BS, like turrets giving valor, and all the other nonsense that shows up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loekii Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 (edited) Something broke, they fessed up, shutdown the ability to grief/exploit once they realized it and then immediately patched the problem AND rolled back Valor points. Did they fix EVERYTHING overnight? No, but they did the right thing here. Some people never want to see the positive. Tell me what part of this particular fix did they do the WRONG thing? Actually what they did was simply handle system poorly. Edited January 20, 2012 by Loekii Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth_Pants Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 (edited) I can garauntee a person that heard 'we are taking down the game for an extended period to fix it' would be more willing to wait than a person playing the same broken features everyday while all they get is 'we're aware of the issue and investigating it.' shows how little you know. this is so, so far from reality it makes me chuckle when reading it. it also makes me ignore everything you have to say on the matter as you are clearly clueless. there are 2 million ppl playing the game. enjoying it. having a great time. taking the game offline to make make 500 ppl feel better and get the fixes THEY wont put in is insane. it makes NO SENSE. i will say it again. the ppl who think this game is broken are the MINORITY. stop fooling yourselves into thinking you are the majority just because you are loud and post the most on the forums. read the letters to the editor of your local paper. how many are positive? yeah...see....negative ppl are far more vocal than positive ppl. the 2million + enjoying this game are too busy playing it to bother coming to the general forum and posting "game is exactly what i expected, alot of fun, having a great time. that is all" Edited January 20, 2012 by Darth_Pants Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRealBrave Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 and how exactly are you able to prove this? let me get this straight. we are supposed to assume that bioware isn't telling us the truth, but we are also supposed to assume that you, some random nobody is? you sure you aren't spouting more forum BS, like turrets giving valor, and all the other nonsense that shows up? They never removed a single point of Valor. You can live in fantasy land all you want, but people stuck in reality land know the truth. There is zero evidence of any valor having been removed and I repeat this for emphasis - zero. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andryah Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 They need to shut the game down for two weeks revamp the engine and fix the endgame. Make an official apology post admitting they suck and didnt listen to their players. Everyone that quit would come back and the game would flourish. You write comedy for a living, am I right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oflow Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 Yeah... developers don't deal with the active systems.... nor worry about them... in fact it helps them that people are playing the game... because it gives them data that locates bugs.. Hmm nevermind... I obviously don't know how this stuff works because I am not a working man... You probably work for BW with your view of how to fix things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitrosnwbrdr Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 They never removed a single point of Valor. You can live in fantasy land all you want, but people stuck in reality land know the truth. There is zero evidence of any valor having been removed and I repeat this for emphasis - zero. You must have missed the guy ranting and raving about his valor getting reset, though BW admitted this.kids shouldn't have been. They did say they were reverting valor gains on a case by case scenario. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRealBrave Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 (edited) You must have missed the guy ranting and raving about his valor getting reset, though BW admitted this.kids shouldn't have been. They did say they were reverting valor gains on a case by case scenario. Here's some food for though, it's the internet - people lie for their own enjoyment or benefit. Until I see numerous people complaining about their valor being reset justified or not I will not believe that they modified a single point of Valor. Edited January 20, 2012 by TheRealBrave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elysion Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 Why dont they just roll back everyone's valor to how it was pre-patch, apologize but explain it had to be done to preserve balance, and give everyone a free day of game time as a token of sincerity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pink_Saber Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 They need to shut the game down for two weeks revamp the engine and fix the endgame. Thank you for the suggestion. Now here, I have a big ol' sack of reality for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokeydubbs Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 Here's some food for though, it's the internet - people lie for their own enjoyment or benefit. Until I see numerous people complaining about their valor being reset justified or not I will not believe that they modified a single point of Valor. Why would they complain? They were exploiting a glitch in the game to get that valor. BW is doing it case by case, so someone running WZ all day other then camping a spawn isn't getting rolled back. I can see you are really upset about the botched patch. How about calming down and THINKING!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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