Dezerian Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Even pyromancers in rift and fire wizards in warhammer didn't have stealth, just got out of a super fun game where an operative decided to camp me in spawn in huttball so I couldn't even get a single medal, he just sat outside my spawn and waited for me. I didn't even know the guy, but I could literally do nothing to him before I was killed in his 5 second knockdown out of stealth. Good balance bioware, you made rift and warhammer look good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fidopro Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 (edited) TLDR :: lowbie getting ***** by 50 operative because he runs off the same ledge over and over like a lemming without any teammates, ect Edited January 16, 2012 by Fidopro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dezerian Posted January 16, 2012 Author Share Posted January 16, 2012 TLDR :: lowbie getting ***** by 50 operative because he runs off the same ledge over and over like a lemming without any teammates, ect Actually I'm 50 with half pvp gear, couldn't get out of spawn in huttball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thejaga Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Going to go out on a limb and actually suggest that the Pyromancers' ability to one-shot multiple players consecutively was even less balanced. Just saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dezerian Posted January 16, 2012 Author Share Posted January 16, 2012 Going to go out on a limb and actually suggest that the Pyromancers' ability to one-shot multiple players consecutively was even less balanced. Just saying. Pyromancer one shot ability had a 1 minute cooldown at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VonSoot Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Operatives in full PVP > all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tindin Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Even pyromancers in rift and fire wizards in warhammer didn't have stealth, just got out of a super fun game where an operative decided to camp me in spawn in huttball so I couldn't even get a single medal, he just sat outside my spawn and waited for me. I didn't even know the guy, but I could literally do nothing to him before I was killed in his 5 second knockdown out of stealth. Good balance bioware, you made rift and warhammer look good. cool story...next time dont forget the lube and maybe it wont hurt so much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Campaigner Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Yesterday I was killed by X class. It mad me sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vindianajones Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Not really sure what to tell you here. You're in Huttball with other players. When he jumps you, CC break and then stun/slow/whatever him and let your teammates help? How is it that you were repeatedly being 1v1'ed by this guy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richardya Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 (edited) Yesterday I was killed by X class. It mad me sad. Read what he wrote. Full pVp gear operatives are ridiculous on anyone not in full PvP gear. Not to say this particular Operative was not a complete A-hole. Edited January 16, 2012 by richardya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aghar Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 meh they aren't unstoppable they just have huge burst. If you pop your cc break on that first stun you can negate most of that burst. Use a knockback and a dot and kite them and they are all yours. BTW this is coming from a tank speced sith jugg, you just need to get some distance till their crap wears off them rip them to peices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthaeum Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Can't you also run around along the sides on the first ledge in huttball? You move faster when you're not cloaked so if you stayed up high you probably wouldn't have been impacted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skykoopa Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 PvP Balance has and always will be a paper, rock, and scissors. Learn which of these you are and get with the program. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Campaigner Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Read what he wrote. Full pVp gear operatives are ridiculous on anyone not in full PvP gear. Not to say this particular Operative was not a complete A-hole. Why does the class matter? Any class with a significant gear (and likely experience) advantage will have the capability to kill you as many times as it likes if you're alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tourne Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 (edited) Not really sure what to tell you here. You're in Huttball with other players. When he jumps you, CC break and then stun/slow/whatever him and let your teammates help? How is it that you were repeatedly being 1v1'ed by this guy? Doesn't work...unless you have a premmie you are toast since other players blindly don't notice others being attacked. I had been healing my team at East end Alderaan when a Shadow jumped me...I ran to 3 of my team mates to shake him off and they simply would not peel him off- not one single attack against him. I would have been better off NOT expecting them to help. Other players helping is not a God given right- it's a luxury... Edited January 16, 2012 by Tourne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pondz Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 what are you talking about the game is perfectly balanced , Ive only had the same pvp daily for 3 days because in 20 matches we havent won one . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tindin Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 what are you talking about the game is perfectly balanced , Ive only had the same pvp daily for 3 days because in 20 matches we havent won one . that would have nothing to do with balance but more with team work. i have seen a team with 50% of it being under 30 and only 1 lvl 50 win against teams with 50% being 50's al because of team work.....and i'm not talking huttball cause i dont play that one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silverspar Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 I do love the people coming out to defend ops and scrappers. The last excuse I saw is where are they all at... umm yea, last match I was ganked by three ops at the same time, the numbers have already jumped. Almost half a team operatives should speak volumes so please,s top defending the class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aowar Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 TLDR :: lowbie getting ***** by 50 operative because he runs off the same ledge over and over like a lemming without any teammates, ect translation: I play an OP and they are fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Efir Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 (edited) TLDR :: lowbie getting ***** by 50 operative because he runs off the same ledge over and over like a lemming without any teammates, ect This really shows your 'level'. I doubt very much whether your age is above your shoe size. Go and play BF3 with an aimbot with your few sad lonely friends. Edited January 16, 2012 by Efir Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atzel Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Operatives seem to be huge problem for anything under heavy armor , however while they dont bother me much as Juggernaut i do see them bursting sorcs and other soft targets in 5 seconds like others say. And that imo is not right , in mass pvp if healers are good they should not go down if they are not focused , if 1 single class can take them out alone , then something is deffinatly working wrong. My 5 cents imo and yes i dont have any problems with operatives as jugger , but i am heavy armor class... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dezerian Posted January 16, 2012 Author Share Posted January 16, 2012 Operatives seem to be huge problem for anything under heavy armor , however while they dont bother me much as Juggernaut i do see them bursting sorcs and other soft targets in 5 seconds like others say. And that imo is not right , in mass pvp if healers are good they should not go down if they are not focused , if 1 single class can take them out alone , then something is deffinatly working wrong. My 5 cents imo and yes i dont have any problems with operatives as jugger , but i am heavy armor class... I'm a bounty hunter. The different between medium and heavy armor mitigation is less than 10%. They also ignore 50% of armor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silverspar Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 (edited) Operatives seem to be huge problem for anything under heavy armor , however while they dont bother me much as Juggernaut i do see them bursting sorcs and other soft targets in 5 seconds like others say. And that imo is not right , in mass pvp if healers are good they should not go down if they are not focused , if 1 single class can take them out alone , then something is deffinatly working wrong. My 5 cents imo and yes i dont have any problems with operatives as jugger , but i am heavy armor class... The knockdown on Operatives lasts too long not to mention there are many who are abusing certain exploits and continuous delivering a high damage attack in a short amount of time. I know there are quite a few who will deny the possibility of that happening, but considering the fact how "great" BioWare has already proven at their PvP balancing act, it's funny these people will actually go out to defend this. Edited January 16, 2012 by Silverspar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xinika Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Even pyromancers in rift and fire wizards in warhammer didn't have stealth, just got out of a super fun game where an operative decided to camp me in spawn in huttball so I couldn't even get a single medal, he just sat outside my spawn and waited for me. I didn't even know the guy, but I could literally do nothing to him before I was killed in his 5 second knockdown out of stealth. Good balance bioware, you made rift and warhammer look good. They are exceptionally broken. What's more broken is the idiotic defending of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claudiolettieri Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 dude, there are 2 side exits from the spawn in hutball ^_^ Instead of dropping down, follow the path to left or right and you will end up near the ball stand . I think they are meant to avoid spawn ganking Just one of those things ya know ^_^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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