moos_outfront Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 subscribed, thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moondragon Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 (edited) Nice! Found the build I was working on going relatively close, just on a 23/18/0 instead of 18/23/0 Sooo frustrated though. I really want Protector...just...need...3 more points...GAH (;@_@) I started picking up Vigilance tree skills when I tanked @lvl12 and found that the Vanguard was pulling a lot o threat with his attacks. Needed more threat...so decided for a little damage and found wonderful "tanking" adds in Vigilance. Edited December 15, 2011 by Moondragon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atamasama Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 Nice! Found the build I was working on going relatively close, just on a 23/18/0 instead of 18/23/0 Sooo frustrated though. I really want Protector...just...need...3 more points...GAH (;@_@) I started picking up Vigilance tree skills when I tanked @lvl12 and found that the Vanguard was pulling a lot o threat with his attacks. Needed more threat...so decided for a little damage and found wonderful "tanking" adds in Vigilance. Between Effluence and Swelling Winds you'll find that Vigilance helps with adds tremendously, I'm sure. Which is great because we have a lot of trouble with them if you just go straight up the Defense tree to the top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonlo Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 I'm sure as more and more people test this, they'll find that getting defensive bonuses to movements is great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zomeguy Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 Lol I was expecting the post to say roll trooper or something like that. But this is actually useful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistrme Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 For somebody that is new to the MMO world and really wanting to learn to tank, your post was golden. Thanks a ton for all the useful info! Micah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrianel Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 Thanks, nice thread. It is surely an inspiration how to build my talent tree for Tanking properly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acyan Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 This might actually convince me to play a Guardian Tank. I kept hearing how they weren't any good, but if someone (like the OP) says it's ok, then I'll go for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lendrogh Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 (edited) I was just reading the first post (Great guide btw, Huge thanks!), checking the builds and started wondering about Guardian Slash and Sundering Strike. It seems to work like Sunder Armor - Devastate from the WoW Warrior. The problem is that there are a lot of talents that upgrade Sundering Strike, so no one even thinks about choosing Guardian Slash. So whats the point? Even if I want to get Guardian Slash and Drop Sundering Strikes I must go up with the remaining 10 points in Vigilance giving useless points to improving Sundering Strike. What am I missing? Is there a good build with Guardian Slash? Because I dont see the point in using Sundering Strike AND Guardian Slash in the rotation. Edited December 16, 2011 by Lendrogh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taallyn Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 Thanks for the information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jpope Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 This makes much more sense to me than putting points into the defense tree! I had the exact feeling like the defense tree stops putting in defensive cooldowns and defensive attacks. Well thought out!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solonius Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 /bump Solid build for tanking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evilinme Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 Great Guide! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoBi Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 Really a great post Seraphimm, thank you!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varaben Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 I really hope they buff the Defense tree so builds like this aren't the only option. I like hybrid builds and I think their viability is important for customization, but honestly when your 30 pt skill isn't worth getting, something is wrong. Hilt Strike is lame too. The whole tree needs a workup. I like Vigilance though so I may just try this. How is soloing with this setup? Doesn't seem like a great levelling build. Shien form is so beast for levelling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atamasama Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 How is soloing with this setup? Doesn't seem like a great levelling build. Shien form is so beast for levelling. I'm not that high in level so I haven't gone very deep but it's pretty good. I went up through Defense far enough to make Riposte cost 1 Focus, then maxed out Swelling Winds. Leveling up as a tank is fantastic. People who have tried leveling as a Guardian tank and Guardian DPS have said that the difference is night and day. You don't sacrifice a lot of DPS and your survivability is so much better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fraattack Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 Great Post...Indeed, out of the box thinking and analysis. I was going down the cookie cutter defense tree and I came up with your post. Thankyou, I have bookmarked this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beowulfe Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 Kudo's. thanks man, great guide. Definitely worth the time to read! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waits Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 Great read, thanks OP! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chronomatrix Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 I'd use this build better... http://www.torhead.com/skill-calc#500fMGburrkzZhRr0M.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpartanND Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 Sticky this amazing and helpful guide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hiram Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 Yeah thanks for this guide, now I can't wait for the level 30 to get Challenging Call. The game is not out yet and people starting to flamme over heal or tanks lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varaben Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 I'm not that high in level so I haven't gone very deep but it's pretty good. I went up through Defense far enough to make Riposte cost 1 Focus, then maxed out Swelling Winds. Leveling up as a tank is fantastic. People who have tried leveling as a Guardian tank and Guardian DPS have said that the difference is night and day. You don't sacrifice a lot of DPS and your survivability is so much better. Now that I have Force Sweep being free, I can't go back! I may try it once I get to 32 (then I can get free sweep + cheap riposte), at that point I will have tasted overhead slash. We shall see. I am doing fine with this build currently. I actually never use strike anymore because of how much focus I get. I just cycle sweep, bladestorm and sunder. Use stasis and master strike if everything else is on cooldown then sunder will be up etc. Works well I think. I may try the defensive build though, I am pretty squishy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonlo Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 I'd use this build better... http://www.torhead.com/skill-calc#500fMGburrkzZhRr0M.1 Use it better for what? You lose threat and mitigation with that build. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neokanobi Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 AWESOME guide seraphimm !!!! It really helped me understand some of the key skills used by the Guardian. Please add any new information that you will find out in the future. Thanks Neo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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