Forsbacka Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 SWTOR already gave WoW a knock out punch. You mad fanbois? In which way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiriensoul Posted January 5, 2012 Author Share Posted January 5, 2012 Not only China, but don't forget the other Asian markets of Japan and Korea, the Oceanic realms with Australia and NZ, and the South American Realms as well. WoW is global. There are 1B people in NA and EU, 6+B in the rest of the world so it should be no surprise that Most of WoWs accounts are outside the US and EU. Recently WoW lost 1.8 M subs, from the last shareholder meeting it was said the majority were from the Asian markets and a hefty amount of those were banned accounts. Nobody cares about China, because no one in EU/NA can talk to them, play with them... etc etc. Atleast they don't fill up dead servers in EU & NA servers... dead servers blizzard just wont merge... Wierd.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiriensoul Posted January 7, 2012 Author Share Posted January 7, 2012 Kinda cool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KuusouRumba Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 As opposed to people standing around in a capitol city waiting for a queue and bouncing around in circles, talking trash and spamming An** [Ability] in trade chat? Yeah...That looks a LOT more like people having fun than SW:TOR /Sarcasm. If you don't like it, leave and quit spewing your garbage on our forums. Because TOR is immune to a childish community and people who are bored at level cap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranberries Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 (edited) Average: Constituting the result obtained by adding together several quantities and then dividing this total by the number of quantities. Peak: Reach a highest point, either of a specified value or at a specified time. There's a difference. Edited January 7, 2012 by Cranberries Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liquidken Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 (edited) Blizzard's definition of "active subscriber" is surprisingly narrow, imo. It does count the hourly subscribers in China/Korea as well as those in their first 30 days of free game time, but does NOT include trial accounts and the like. But yes, "active subscribers" =/= active players. Here it is, as well as a link to an article that is quite relevant to the discussion at hand: World of Warcraft’s Subscriber Definition World of Warcraft® subscribers include individuals who have paid a subscription fee or have an active prepaid card to play World of Warcraft, as well as those who have purchased the game and are within their free month of access. Internet Game Room players who have accessed the game over the last thirty days are also counted as subscribers. The above definition excludes all players under free promotional subscriptions, expired or cancelled subscriptions, and expired prepaid cards. Subscribers in licensees’ territories are defined along the same rules. from a good (slightly old) article posted here:http://daeity.blogspot.com/2011/02/active-subscriptions-revisited-part-1.html& part 2http://daeity.blogspot.com/2011/02/active-subscriptions-revisited-part-2.html it's from last winter, so the numbers are a bit different now, but the general principles apply (to Bioware's numbers as well as Blizzard's...or any subscription based service, tbqh). It's quite interesting. Edited January 7, 2012 by liquidken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnoopyDoo Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 (edited) World Of Warcraft: World of Warcraft has total of 266435 players weekly average logged on peak hours in US and EU regions combined. Link: http://www.warcraftrealms.com/weeklyfactionactivity.php Star Wars The Old Republic: The firm estimates that TOR has approximately 350,000 peak concurrent users spread across 215 servers. Link: http://massively.joystiq.com/2012/01/03/research-firm-swtor-has-350-000-peak-concurrent-users/ Source: http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/1057141-SWTOR-has-more-active-players-than-WOW-atm-in-US-and-EU-regions Just found it, take it for what it is. But kinda neat anyway, if it's true ofcourse. I don't care about either, as long as BioWare gets enough money to give us expansions and me a new car, boat & house. Yeah this isn't the most enlightening of threads... Skyrim is a good example of a game which had over 250,000 people playing it on pc in the weeks following launch and now that number is significantly lower. This kind of statement can't be said for SWTOR yet. Way too soon to say this game as more active players. Edited January 7, 2012 by SnoopyDoo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiriensoul Posted January 10, 2012 Author Share Posted January 10, 2012 Long time no see! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atrozious Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 Yeah this isn't the most enlightening of threads... Skyrim is a good example of a game which had over 250,000 people playing it on pc in the weeks following launch and now that number is significantly lower. This kind of statement can't be said for SWTOR yet. Way too soon to say this game as more active players. This is an MMO. Skyrim is not, Bit of a difference dont you think? Oh and i dont even think you can consider skyrim as a "Launch" lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrache Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 who cares...really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atrozious Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 who cares...really. Says the guy with a Signature Degrading WoW? lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHPer Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 This is kinda like Apple vs Microsoft. At some point we can hope that people understand that for SWTOR to have succes, it is NOT needed that WoW fail. For SWTOR to have succes imo, mainly whats needed is customer support from Bioware. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHirogen Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 This is kinda like Apple vs Microsoft. At some point we can hope that people understand that for SWTOR to have succes, it is NOT needed that WoW fail. For SWTOR to have succes imo, mainly whats needed is customer support from Bioware. It is except your analogy fits better if you compare Apple/Microsoft vs adobe... Also /signed on customer support for consumers of this game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krashh Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 I have 2 WoW accounts which are still active and staying active. I also have 1 SWTOR account and it'll stay active. That is all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHPer Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 It is except your analogy fits better if you compare Apple/Microsoft vs adobe... Nahh Apple vs Microsoft fits perfect. Watch and see Steve Jobs and Bill Gates talk about it. Very interesting, also considering its from 2007, and they talk about what they think world will look like in 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamataKahn Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 Wow has over 10 million players worldwide who regularly play it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super-massive Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 It's also worth noting that WoW tends to count the Free accounts as well.You know, the ones that can't go past 20. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lokivoid Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 Funny thing is the Chinese gov't has their prisoners selling game currency in different games. I would like to see proof of this considering china banned the practice atleast on a commercial level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rinkitink Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 It's also worth noting that WoW tends to count the Free accounts as well. You know, the ones that can't go past 20. That's not true at all. They always have a disclaimer that explicitly defines a subscriber, and trials aren't included. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fireline Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 So, WoW launched in 2004 and SWTOR in 2011/12 is not a valid excuse for the fanboys now? Jaded Eyesight much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Briljin Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 New games tend to have larger than normal populations in their first month, typically because that month is included in the cost of buying the game and gives the feel of "playing for free". You will not be able to get a real feel until months down the road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
septusmortis Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 Yawn.... these figure do nothing other than promote fanboys to gimp on about thier respective games as "1337est title ever on planet earth".... 1. Dont post them now because your gonna look pretty silly when the free month is up and half the games population goes back to playing their previous MMO because they dont have the patience to wait for the bugs and teething issues to be fixed (if they are). 2. Dont compare peak with average again it makes you look uniformed and the stats lose credibility 3. DOES IT MATTER? Game A has been around for years and is relatively stable and and has a commited and huge base of players, Some of which may indeed have come to try new game B along with those who have never even played an MMO before. They will either stay or go once the free time runs out. IT DOES NOT MATTER! Game A fans will play Game A, Game B fans will play Game B. Some will play both some will never play an MMO again... there are lies, damn lies and statistics... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nague Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 lets compare the numbers again in 3 months Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
septusmortis Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 so then, you want ALL of those games to be exactly like the other, repeating the same pattern. why the hell are you playing more than one game then ? just play wow ? or, are you here on hiatus until next wow exp/content patch comes out and therefore seeing the liberty of demanding swtor to be turned to wow for your temporary enjoyment ? repeat that a few times to yourself. the upsetting part comes from the fact that self-focused, self-involved people have turned wow into a hardcore grindfest with their demands. the problem is, they are demanding that other games to be made as such too. your enjoyment cant precede my enjoyment. therefore, your demands are harmful to others. ................ if its 'just a game', then play it, by the way ? what's the problem with 'endgame that works' ? so, you did not enjoy the entire 1 to 50 journey then. that was the point where i decided you would be happier back to wow. HARDCORE GRIDFEST OMG <rolls eyes> its easier than it has ever been please dont say things that are untrue....! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enako Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 HARDCORE GRIDFEST OMG <rolls eyes> its easier than it has ever been please dont say things that are untrue....! 'hardcore grindfest' != stuff that hard. grinding the same 4 hour 20 man instance two times a week for 0.5% chance drops, is a grindfest. it is hardcore, since, one needs to be really 'hard'core to actually enjoy doing the same 4 hour long thing 20 times just to further the stats on his/her gear with 5%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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