this is all true.. November I came back after a sabbatical away from this game after RotHC made the game incredibly laggy and I found the lag was almost nonexistent so I paid for a sub and wasted my money on an expansion that made the game unplayable a month later a lot of the time... I wish Bioware had never been given the rights to a "star wars" game at this point for an MMO as this game is nothing but a nightmare .. Anyone could have coded better than this thing is IF every time an xpac comes out there is going to be months and months of lag and bugs . within a few weeks a lot of the issues should be cleared up but instead this trash .. they can't FIX issues permanently as if the code is impossible to correct as far as present programmers are concerned (DID they let go the one guy who coded the actual engine or something?) IT is the same issue EVERY time and probably they same exact problem in the code every time and yet after 2 years they still can't find a permanent fix for it .. I think Japan has a chimp that can do basic coding .. maybe you should buy him/her as buying bananas is probably cheaper than your programmers annual pay is and the CHIMP couldn't do any worse than I have seen over the last 2 years of this game.

I don't think they were even monitoring their game over the "holidays" which seem to have started on the 15th of December for them.. Mail chat whispers .. none stop .. reports are all 2 weeks behind even being closed There is no point of course it seems reporting spammers since the take so long to actually look into things .. just ignore ignore ingnore ... into infinity... this game has worse online service than even WoW and EQ did at their worst which REALLY is say a lot.

see it is funny .. I get little to no lag in the ship .. the last FP I did there seemed to be no real lag .. but doing solo missions and open world stuff I have an almost constant 3 to 10 second delay most of the time for abilities when on Tattoine trying to pick up those stupid datacrons I had the balloon almost at pick up point after waiting a 1/2 hour ... then it vanished just before I could jump in it.. a bit later it was floating further on .. a few seconds later it was off in the distance about to come around to the pick up point again and floating alone .. bang it had disappeared again and then it repeatedly did this for 20 to 35 mins a lot of people are say no ability delay BUT I think the servers are actually out of sync altogether (again this was an issue when the game was new) and it depends on were your out of sync phase actually is .. I have little or no love for EA games/origin BUT they really should consider new management for this game as the management has made the same boneheaded choice to release JUST before a holiday as they did when they game first came out .. AND THAT worked out JUST great.. They promised to look into lag latency around the 15 after ignoring the complaints from the 3rd to the 15th and here we are on the 31st and it seems they have been away since the 15th by and large.. hey sure .. they deserver their holidays BUT for the fact that the game is messed up on release (bugs DO get through testing but this is more than a little much with this game) but a little extra work to get things done IF you want your holiday on time is not unusual for most people and then there is the idea that IF something IS wrong you fix it then and there and don't ignore your customers.. MMOs are a service based operation and boy do I feel SERVICED lately.. this game was fine in November with the increased player volumes with 12% xp bonus and YET after SoR lag has gotten worse and worse.. I don't even thing they did the weekly maintenance the week of Christmas even though you had at least 2 full days and a 1/2 day before the holiday actually began .. and then you had a lot of day this week too and NOTHING done or even said.. I agree it sucks to work on holidays BUT I did this non stop for 22 years because there are still things THAT just have to be done .. the world doesn't stop because of a holiday .. Not sure if the programmers are lazy there BUT I am certain that someone in management should be collecting a pink slip

they didn't even do maintenance last week as far as I could tell .. they were all too busy going to Christmas parties and getting ready for the holidays .. I wouldn't mind so much except this is the same idiotic maneuver they pulled when the game first came out.. they bring it out just before Christmas and then the servers crash over the holidays.. IT is a severe management issue with management unable to live in the real world and the programmers having to "make it work" .. You bring out a game/large expansion just before a holiday YOU can't fix the bugs that get through in time .. IF they had released beginning of November they would have been IN a lot better shape and BETTER yet if they had waited for January/February release they would have had a few extra months to fix the issues before it went to live and impacted so many people.

sorry this always makes me laugh .. there are a lot of people complaining of lag and ability delays .. Look through the posts THERE are a lot of them. IT isn't a bad internet connection.. I have run speed tests, ping and packet loss and it is not in existence.. the servers were as busy last month as after SoR came out BUT for me post SoR lag in insane and before it came out NONE. the servers themselves are in need of repair .. THEY are often OUT of sync.. I often wonder if people are being paid by Bioware to way "all is fine it must be you" .. Maybe the servers are a BIT busier than they were (though I doubt it as the 12% xp bonus brought back a lot of people the month before SoR) BUT even then Bioware needs to invest in more bandwidth or make sure the servers aren't all screwed up.. If you think their "tests" were up to snuff all you have to do is see how many issues there were with just the "new" content to see their tests didn't catch a LOT of bugs.. stop defending them by saying all is good and force them to fix the issues .. pretending all is good isn't going to help the game only hurt it as more people drop off due to issues.. As I have said I HAD 0 let me say that in words ZERO lag in November .. the day of the patch until today the lag and latency from the servers is often insane with 3 to 10 seconds of delay for abilities to go off a normal NOT a random occurrence .. The stupid balloon in tattoine will from time to time teleport all over the screen as of 2 days ago .. it floats along for a bit and then teleports again.. THESE forums really are screwed with so many posters acting as if ONLY they exist.. This is why the game lost so many subs in the beginning and will continue to.. come on Black Desert

IF you knew anyone who wore high heels all the time (and I mean the true high heels) you would discover one thing the reason for doing so it to attract attention as it accented their legs and butt.. IT isn't and of itself a "skank" though why overly "sexy" items are not necessary as a rule.. High heels are not great for back, legs and posture .. and every time I see a woman trying to be in a hurry in them it makes me laugh (it isn't sexy it is just plain funny as they can't RUN period).. You don't need high heels as you shouldn't be falling in love with your "sexy" pixels on the game as this is perhaps a sign YOU do have issues in need of medical assistance and psychological therapy

one of the major issues is that you get people who literally look in the GTN and find X item is selling for a lot so suddenly they decide to make this item for no other reason than because it was at that point selling for a lot which will drive prices down fast.. it is the same concept as assembly lines and making items cheaper for more money but unlike real life we don't have a government that is protecting their interests by forcing prices higher.. FYI real world economy IS not a free market anymore as there are WAY too many checks and balances involved THAT legally shouldn't even exist but do as governments cheat and lie their way into the green.. a true economy still is majorly affected by the rules of supply and demand.. an mmo has a small "caption/captive" market but also has few items so less inventiveness .. If you could find a scheme for mods as cyber tech that offered defense/absorb that you could make and had a log drop rate you could make a killing .. as it is anyone who can craft said items at said level can make the same item.. You can't put controls on a system for lower rates without a control on the higher end too .. item can only go down say 10% but can't increase in price by over 10% either.. also IF you really hate the undercutters you could always buy up the cheap items and resell them for your price though this can be expensive and can leave you left holding the bag WHEN the bottom drops out of the value of said item.. in the end in a closed system economy like an MMO the only items that really consistently sell for a reasonable amount are the materials used for making items as people level skills or make items for alts .. SWTOR's GTN is still way better than say WoW's AH system that is incredibly over priced for stupid items as people buy up items just to resell for more..

many don't like the changes .. but if you read the whole post I implied I might be able to actually like them if SoR hadn't come with so many added problems.. Lag unresponsive servers, broken things in game.. sure they can fix it BUT at this time seem to be ignoring the complaints and just raking in the cash flow

I understand what you are trying to say here BUT it isn't just smoothing out .. it has been over 3 weeks since SoR went live and the lag packets are horrible and once they hit they stay with you.. more or fewer players in an area doesn't cause it.. speed is not the issue (minor speed decrease near austin but noting noteworthy ) packet losses seem manageable (or should be if the game is put together right).. BUT at times the laggy .. no response game .. moving spawns that you have to chase after leaping at them because THEY aren't where they showed as being (this is even true when you would have to leap further than possible to hit them and can happen when game response seems ok)... As far as going on with rotation .. I can't .. I have to keep pushing the same ability as UNTIL the lag stops the ability doesn't engage and this has caused MANY MANY MANY deaths on things that should be easy... the lag has no rhyme nor reason to it .. no obvious cause from me to them .. nothing on my system and the game worked great before SoR now it is a nightmare.

WoW this was a biased comment .. and sadly also often true.. as a healer I usually am spamming heals at DPS Jedi/Sith whether using 2 lightsabers or just one .. Ty for point it out though..

Not HC raider nor a PvPer .. I like to play in both but usually have come to avoid both especially in this game.. PvP they put too many leveling into a rank to make it work .. the lack of the higher end skills means that lower levels are getting rolled (never happened to me in high schools and it never happened when I was around I have no ptience with that kind of crap).. HC raiding players take the game WAY too seriously in most games and rather than a stress relief and fun time it became a stressful time dealing with people crying you were a few point out on what you damage should be or your healing should be (in WoW they complained I was over healing as a druid while I still had mana and had to "invigorate" the priest who was spamming direct heals and not working as a team and it became dull fast .. swtich to tank) .. I don't like the changes .. many might not and might leave.. I WON'T stay if they don't fix this damned lag and broken random systems in both PvP/PvE FP randomizer .. and yet the DEVs don't seem to care so MEH neither do I.. what this means is I find something else.. and a lot feel this way since SoR came out.

I had a bit of issues with getting mad too .. WHY? Because I am trying to get info by making a thread and asking a question in a direct way and giving info and then having some troll come in and give their one line BS answer .. Sadly from time to time then I step on someone after this happens one too many times in a given period of time .. Not because THEY did anything but because their comment might have been vague.. I have solved this by just ignoring anyone who constantly posts 1 line answers without actually posting anything from the topic or anyone being obviously rude for no greater reason than to throw their bad mood at someone else.. the ignore is a wonderful thing

where are the fish nets and micro skirts too with the halter tops .. already have the seriously over done make up choices might as well go all out .. maybe a bulge for those people who want to dress in drag as well... I have to say I did buy the unencumbered set for my one character but only because i couldn't find the rest of the pieces that went with the in game non holy armor..

I believe he meant expertise .. remove it from gear then bolster the characters and add expertise through the bolstering system.. just guessing though from earlier posts

pretty sure it is made out of Jawas but then I have a "dark side" attitude atm

don't let him bother you btw .. I looked back and most of his post seem to have him trolling the threads and offering single line answers because he knows what he knows.. Not sure about this forum it seems that the trolls breed like replicators in SG1 rather than like rabbits .. a lot of good helpful people but they are always drowned out by trollish behavior sadly which is why you don't get a good base line reading of how players feel here as a rule only a few minorities.. GL on your searches

What Holocron above said is mostly true .. You also need to remember that there are a lot of players like myself who can craft items themselves as they have enough alts to make anything and everything.. the only items that this might not effect or should not effect are those bought with real money from the cartel market ..BUT these are effected too if one player ends up with a lot of an item and needs to make space (I clear out all character and legacy vaults every 2 months or so to make space and get rid of the junk I am not using) .. YOU can't fix an economy by fixing prices all it does in create further issues.. some items list for way more than their true value (never mind the idea of sending companions out on missions .. If the items can be gotten free from a node as a rule you are looking at an almost 100% mark up anyway) I agree players who craft items to make credits should be able to but at the same time you can't turn a whole economy into a cash cow for the sellers to make it all better for them while everyone else suffers the consequences because they are unable to afford or compete .. look around NA you can see the effect of price fixing everyday here with people living under bridges ... If I am making something and choose to sell it for less than you that is my choice.. Don't flood the market with your items .. 1 or 2 at a time .. Don't look today at a new item and think that is the stabilized price as there is a mark up because it is new which declines as people get the item that want it .. When setting prices make sure you check the prices later on to make sure you haven't been undersold (the number of people undercutting by 1 to 10 credits on an item btw makes me NOT buy that item it is so annoying to see it and 1 to 10 credits is hardly a killer) .. Caveat emptor means let the buyer beware which is a real world legal term .. There is also caveat venditor which is let the seller beware.. I know it sucks but there are some people who actually like "playing" the AH/GTN markets in these games and this is just how the "cookie crumbles".. also can't believe this thread is still going on

If you read the many other thread on this you will find a mixed bag of info.. YES they dumbed it down.. whether to remove hybrids for PvP or PvE or just raw balancing who knows I still don't see why it had to be done since all they really had to do was accept that a player will cry about anything in the threads and always seems to be looking for a reason .. if a hybrid was out of balance YOU could also make the said hybrid and then you balanced the issue... another option was to simply force a player to spend x amount of talents in one tree before they could chose another tree .. so if you needed say 30 pts in a tree to get to the top skill you needed 30 pts before you could add to a different tree (then the other trees were unlocked and you could pick and chose) basically since WoW came out it was the game to beat or emulate at very least so it is what was done without the realization that the present WoW build is killing that games subscriptions and player base. Meh.. it won't be fixed and I bet good money that most MMOs in the western world will do the same thing and dumb down their games to make things "balanced" ignoring what others want .. Our only hope might be the games coming from the eastern world in the near future since every game needs to be like WoW even though WoW is failing hard

this is the way I feel about "balancing" a game strong in storyline PvE for a PvP .. In PvP levels still make a big difference as even bolstering or what ever they call it in PvP randoms you still have a lot few abilities and some are necessary .. (someone was complaining about 30th levels mixed with 55th levels I think it was and it is true that this doesn't work and was basically another lazy system to fix the lack of people randoming into PvP. one class versus another is the same issue .. one is stronger in one way than another .. one has heal one doesn't .. one has more DPS while one has more health or armor and they don't always balance.. I like to mess around in PvP but for a seriously "balanced" PvP game I NEVER play MMOs for it.

what really gets me here is that they aren't even patching this week.. I get it it is a holiday but it has been 3 weeks now since the lag issues came about due to 3.0 implementation and YET still nothing showing .. even if it is on your end it would make sense to me to have a maintenance to attempt to correct issues BUT it looks like nothing is being done.. It makes me think that you figure if you wait long enough to try and fix it the players complaining will stop playing and "griefing" the poor developers or something.. sure it might get better but some how losing all that revenue by ignoring issues seems to be more than a little dense.. for 22 years I had NO holidays as such i worked through all of them .. sure it sucks BUT someone has to get those things done so why is it , it seems everyone there is taking a break ?? If the game was running well I could see it.. if all the problems were fixed I could see it.. Who the heck is in charge over there?? It is like the blind leading the blind "and both fall in the ditch" .. GL guys but I can't see you people really seem to want an MMO that succeeds .. maybe you have been told the game isn't doing well enough to continue from EA or something but YOU had a chance to fix it but instead decided you would say to hell with it lets screw everyone over

nothing personally but I will believe it when they come out .. frankly races don't mean much in this game unlike others since you get no real benefits from a race or what have you.. a bonus racial ability that really does nothing so all it is , is a graphics change.. to each their own though

bottom line YOU are paying for the game and so is everyone else .. EVERYONE has the right to express their opinions.. If you don't like x opinion stay out of the threads .. this goes for them all .. If you feel the need to be toxic and rude all the time I suggest you find a nice psychiatrist or psychologist to help you with your unresolved hostility issues ... I have no issues with people disagreeing with me BUT I have serious issues with people who feel the need to attack someone else because someone won't change their point of view .. It seems to me there are a lot of good players here on both sides of the discussions and THE BEST ones know enough not to get hostile and abusive as doing so will instantly turn a lot of people against you ... also one of the reasons many people put out these "i AM quitting threads" is to get other feed back so that the customer support (if it exists in the game) can start seeing that there are a lot of players having said issues and therefore the customer support knows to look into it and that it isn't just a fluke that only one player is having.. people treat the players in groups like some people here in the forums treat others and that is like we are all NPCs driven by a computer with no feelings .. I think there are a lot of people who really need to learn how to "do unto other's as you would have done unto you" .. instead of doing unto other before they do unto you

This is a reasonable assumption BUT it is wrong .. I left and came back last month for the beginning of the month to try the game as I had crippling lag with the opening days of RotHC that after a month NEVER was rectified .. for all of November the game was pretty busy over all in most zones I played but no lag so I figured after a couple weeks to sub again and buy the xpac .. the Day of the xpac the lag became impossible again and hasn't gotten better and in fact seems to be getting worse.. This seems to say to me that there is something wrong BUT the community who are having these issues are feeling they are being ignored since it have BEEN 3 weeks and very little has been said AND nothing rectified. It almost seems they figure people will leave the game and it will become stable so it is all good while by this behavior they are breaking a lot of rules of good business.. WoW ignored and basically abused players the way SWTOR has done since pretty much the opening days AND they went from a whopping 14 to 70 millions subs to about 7 million in 2 to 3 years... this game NEVER had those numbers so a rapid decline is a VERY bad thing.. also they are in a great position to make a lot of money with the soon to come out star wars movie but instead of getting player playing they are showing that they have a substandard game with a lot of issue and a poor regard towards players .. it truly makes me wonder if someone is intentionally sabotaging this game for whatever reasons .. I am also willing to bet that there is a "good name" disclaimer in their rights to operation a Star Wars brand game as this is standard and the more annoyed people that feel cheated and lied to the more who will look at star wars in a negative light. I like the game but since last weeks patch it is unplayable 90% of the time with lag deaths galore ..

I don't know .. I think the lowest form of wit was the fact I came back and actually LIKED the game again last month .. now after soaking me for another $20 the servers are unplayable again.. happened with RotHC too.. and either someone there has a VERY bad sense of humor or is trying very hard to put them under

it isn't just ability lag .. the actual servers are not syncing up right since 3.0 went live .. I am show little to no lag in either abilities with less than 30 people in a zone and YET a moving mob is ALWAYS not where I can see them .. my jedi/sith jumps and then it move back to another place.. then I will get crippling lag out of the blue and my character will simply stand there because the servers are "catching up" and yet during that time damage is still spamming at the character .. trying VERY hard to be patient BUT this is the 3rd week coming up of this stupidity and the last time there was this kind of issue in a game I played it was when EQ 1 had just come out and we were all using 28k connections and a max of 56k (unless you were wealthy and could afford the full DSLs).. I think this is 2014/2015 and yet THIS game is playing like it is the late 80s or early 90s .. I appreciate that they have a lot to do but the issues are a sign that there might be issues IN the servers or the implementation of 3.0 which kind of tell me they should figure out what is happening BEFORE the servers actually crash and THEY lose all their customers.. they have an influx of players at this time and are in a good position to profit from the new star wars movie coming out but they are really screwing up royally