Sorry I thought you were trolling when you mentioned 1v1's being difficult with double camo. I agree that mara's could use some help in 7.0 but if you were struggling in 6.0 there are other factors at play.

Right, I see the problem. Carry on 🙃

Well if we're being fair there was also a talent (if I'm remembering correctly) that reduced incoming force/tech damage by something like 75% for the duration, which is kinda hard to justify looking back on it. That being said, I don't think bringing back the OG obfuscate would be a terrible thing but maras aren't exactly the only class in a less than stellar spot since 7.0.

A year or two ago even the most tryhard regstars wouldn't have had the audacity to suggest allowing 8 man premades in regs. It honestly seems like bioware is actively trying to to kill pvp. /2 cents

This might be the most ridiculous argument I've ever seen on the forums, thank you for that.

I really do not want to see ToR damage added back into force lightning. I tend to agree that madness needs some of that lost dps back (especially if we're talking about correcting our selfheals) but mindless FL spam simply isn't fun for anyone, and I'd prefer to see that damage returned to literally anything else in madness' toolkit.

Honestly I think the (7.X) cleave meta has gotten a little out of hand in general, but that's a different discussion. I absolutely agree with you about the healing though.

This would be a pretty fair trade off. I don't know about the demolish buff though. Killing fields probably doesn't need that extra damage, I'd rather see a lightning strike buff tbh.

Talk about broad strokes. Ya'll know that pretty much all of the pvp content creators on youtube are ranked players right? They're literally taking time out of their day to make guides and try to improve the quality of pvp, but hey, screw those guys too amirite? The way some of you guys are complaining you'd think a ranked player walked into your house and slapped your mother or something. Grow up.

I think the level 73 and 80 talent choices really need to be looked at. I could do without pretty much all of the level 80 choices (brazen is decent, but should not be the only worthwhile pick at level 80 and would make more sense lower down in the talent tree) meanwhile literally all of the level 73 choices are essential to a mara's survivability. Leaving these two talent tiers as they are is a mistake, plain and simple.

Seems pretty poorly implemented, the least they could have done is not apply the lockout until after the match has actually started. I'm not really crazy about the idea of being forced to play warzones that I don't enjoy and I don't see how leaving a match with over a minute left on the start timer is going to hurt anyone.

Since there's there's already a thread regarding this tactical; After the opener is it better to use backstab on cooldown or hold off for volatile strike?

I've heard this theory over and over since launch. No idea where it came from, but it seems to hold true in my experience.

It's very nice to have some feed back in the pvp forums for a change. The current gearing system makes gearing all but impossible for people that log on to pvp for a couple hours each day. With the new bolster I'm essentially being punished in warzones because: A). I don't play 6 hours a day B). When I do play, all I feel like doing is pvp. The fact that I can't properly gear my toon(s) for pvp through pvp seems redundant.

Welp, that's the last nail in the coffin for me. Well played EAware.