If i remember correctly, after scraping the KOTET chapters, they made an announcement which was in the spirit of.....hey no more chapter...instead group focused content like Flashpoints and so on. Ranked and NIM were cancelled way after that....probably they finally released the obvious truth - catering to 1% of the population after KOTET got them in the deepest pits of players loss...by then it was too late to do anything. I have played since they released ROTHC. When 4.0 hit i dont remember 80 players on the fleet, the opposite - i remember this happened after KOTET when they announced there will be no more chapters and no more story content of that sortm....slowly and slowly and here we are. There is no point debating such things with apologists though. Results and hard facts speak for themselves.

For me Echoes of Oblivion ends the story of the game. Done! Everything after that is a big pile of ...., the weakest storytelling i have ever seen. And no...no sane person would compare the KOTFE/KOTET story with that of 7.0....roflmao.... I quote enjoyed the Chapters, at least the story was decently executed and well voiced, long and with cinematics. This Mando stuff is incredibly boring, plain and of low importance. Why would a godlike power-level person like the Commander go and deal with random Mandos and their squabbles...why... Why would a Sith go and sneak like a coward on random planets instead of attacking them with a whole army/fleet and stomping everything....Suddenly the stupid Sith in Manaan 7.0 Darth Norok has more power/influence that the Commander?? What?? Darth Nobody...i mean Norok can suddenly order a whole army and a full scale invasion on a fkn big planet, but the Leader of the Hand/Alliance Commander has to sneak and 1v1 average soldiers and Mandos...what?....oh and the Republic part is even worse...i mean i have totally no clue or idea why we went to Manaan and what we acomplished there... Who exactly is the main antagonist in the game....Oh no...not Heta Col...she could be roflstomped by most of the PC's companions...i mean just send some of...Arcann, Senya, Scourge and Lana and the whole lot of Mandos are fkn done. Acina/Vowrann....please...there is no character development, no power ups, nothing belivable about their abilities to lead the Empire...they just suddenly became the leader...They are not shown to actively participate in the leading or war part. Why would the PC take orders from them???????? Who TF leads the Republic...some development on the political and power games there....No...instead go clean this cantina with a mob and take out the trash...better story for sure. Malgus, however formidable he is is defeated by the PC for the 10010000th time...and he sits and gives the same useless information for 2 years.... no developing whats left of the Jedi Order...instead we go spend some time with Arn and Tau...who are as interesting as the new disney movies... This is the worst world and character building after what happened in 6.0....the worst....but hey...there is ANOTHER superweapon and another betrayal....how very interesting... After KOTET when they said the focus would be on mmo stuff and multiplayer content focus...what happened...everyone left and we are left with this sad state...Nobody like grinding pixels without good world and story to immerse in to...but i guess this it too difficult to realise... I am tired of hearing people excuse the writers/devs with EA or managers....or executives....bad decision are bad decision and facts are facts. I suppose the big bad EA or some exec or some investors wanted them to specifically prune abilities (seriously tho...the characters feels so weak its unreal), make the game totally grindy and slow and deliver the worst story and updates with 7.0 and on the games anniversary year...oh, sure, sure...

Relaunches of MMO or breathing life to them (like with LOTRO) becomes possible with smart, dedicated and able team. Full of competent devs. Who love the game they are developing. Not the people who made years and years worth of bad design choices and not certainly the people who were part of 7.0 joke of an anniversary/update/expansion. I havent seen love and real effort put in this game since 2017. This is what...6 years. I wont hold my breath.

I concur...extremely lazy and bad writing like the whole of 7.0 story.

The 7.0 expansion so called....because no one in their right mind would call it that and its story are the worst i have ever seen or experienced in any game. Useless, meaningless run around pressing consoles, fighting mobs for absolutely no purpose...boring story with forgettable characters, no character building, no world building - no result whatsoever came from going to maanan. Malgus story isnt going nowhere. Mandalorian story is trash, boring, trash characters, i forgot when it all started - convoluted. Ruhnuk - badly designed daily area, filled with champion mobs and whole armies of mobs everywhere - run around the whole map fighting mobs nonstop. Lane Vizsla story - very uninteresting. Voss - oh my god...this is the worst...again very boring and worthless story - no character or world building or any imortant thing happening whatsoever. You could have brought Sel Makor - Shrine of Silence something connection, but no no....its some czerka nobodies searching for artefacts....its like a side mission in Vanilla Class Story. Kessan's Landing - a bit better story but so short its not even funny. The datacron - whoever though of that path to get it should be fired. Why would the Commander/Leader of Task Force/Hand of the Empire....go directly to deal with so lowly opponents and clean a cantina with a mob???????????? Is this a joke?? Run around doing errands like a fkn worker. No immersion of any kinds, no important characters, nothing...Worst story... Its like the Emepror going every time to directly confront some resistance cells on some random planet. CONSTANT SWITCHING BETWEEN VOICED STORY AND KOTOR-LIKE CUTSCENES is EXTREMELY FRUSTRATING. And here i thought Mek-sha and Onderon were lack-luster. I hope whoever was in charge of 7.0 debacle was fired. Nice joke of a 10 anniversary. Random fanfictions have better story than SWTOR's 7.0-7.4 story...

Agree. Story is poor and dissapointing. It has been since KOTET, but for 7.0 it is extremely boring, nonsensical, bland and poorly written. The most powerful being in the galaxy ATM - player character lowered to some lackey or foot soldier doing stupid errands like - blow those guns, click those nodes, go and beat some absolote nobodys.....LOL. Incredibly boring mandalorian story.....where....wait for it....random RIKAN lands a hit on you....like what??? Poor writing all around. Laughable. Why would the Commander, Leader of the HAND/TASKFORCE, who defeated and (absorbed?) literal gods....even bother to do all those stuff....Story is poor, very short and stop with the text choice response from KOTORS...

Do you need to have 340 implants for method 1 (conquest 340 3 pieces) to work?

Yep, vote with your wallet people. No point in trying to explain anything to the genius that decided that playing too many alts (mind you that means playing the game, buying stuff...etc...) is detrimental. I am laughing out loud...other game devs prolly are laughing out loud too.

No. What happened to KOTFE was the model was great, lot of content, lot of players. Then for some fukd up reason BW decided to listen to some vocal minority and scrap the project and make the game "group focused" after KOTET. We all witnessed what happened to this game after 5.0 when it shifted focus - merges, loss of players and the pathetic state it is now is all thanks to that. Good job to the group focus lol. If I was somebody that wants a lot of group content regularly i would not have picked this game at all, yet the devs are in some kind of illusion that they and their closed discord guild groups or smth are the majority here - again lol. This is what led to 7.0 and we all see the results.

Steam numbers do not lie, but alas, it would take way more than some random roadmap to keep and attract players.

It slowly will happen. When all who is left here are White Knights defending this fiasco and being like "activate clown world - everything looks exactly the same". By then of course it will be too late.

My SWTOR - Subscription - scroll down until you see cancel subscription button. Good Luck.

Roadmap from this team performance ,evident from 7.0....will be nothing but a joke, or blatant lies like in Anthem and here over the years.

This. THe laughable collectors edition (lol) for 7.0 is just that - a last ditch cash grab. Cant believe some players bought it. As for the OP - lol again. Werent you the one, that told players, who were unhappy with 7.0 and cancelled sub things like "good riddance". Now you have the gall to sign this attempt of a post with "swtor players"...... Amusing.

I sure hope your prediction comes true. This fiasco must end. They can take combat styles with them as well, IMO they are bad, badly implemented , TTK has gone up not down- LOL, PvP is a total mess, my favourite classes feel like a joke. LOL at the players who think there isnt a drop in the playerbase....

LoL...Keep hoping that the situation on steam doesnt reflect the situation ingame....I've got newsflash buddy...its actually worse...and it will keep worsening, because of bad design decision. Anyone with half a brain and without a bias could see this. But then again, empty hopes and dreams that everything is fine and BW will fix this or that led to the current situation of shrinking playerbase over the years.

Vote with your wallet bro.

Listening and comprehension are two different things my friend. For them to comprehend they need to play their own game....which after 7.0 most of us found...that they do not.

Sounds really good. I keep hearing more and more good stuff about that game and prolly will try it. ATM i am researching about which class to try. Honestly most sound real good, thus its a hard pick. Tons of story content...no useless gear grind for 10 year old content, no idiot scaling, no inability to use weapon cosmetics. NPC interactions Yep... sounds real good. Almost 8 years of non-stop sub here, but I've had quite enough with this dev team failures. Since 5.0 story dropped, there have been only failures for me...a big ones. Glad that 7.0 hit the nail on the coffin for me, and i havent logged in since november. I havent played 6.0 as long as I used to play the game, but at least i let my sub run for support of SWTOR. 6-month recurring sub - never again. And sub - never again, until this poor excuse of leadership is at the helm here.

Ggiving Aspyr the Knights of the Old Republic is well deserved finale for BW. They botched this game very bad since 5.0 and paid the price. Its called justice. An attempt to give Disney crap for that from BW part would be most laughable.

Preach!!

Nope. Its just incompetence and arrogance. It has been going since 5.0 when this team took over.

Its not even good trolling. Its low-brained...or should I say deadbrained.... No facts, just hyperbole opinions. It can be funny though, observing how long bias and foolishness can reach.

That or trolls/paid shills, pick your option.

Yeah, one would think that at least they could have put a little more effort in how generic weapons look....but no. Effort is a word of a polar opposite next to 7.0 and this team.