Updated 1st post with more feedback from all of you. Keep it coming. Everyone should realize at this point that lobby efforts DO WORK. Bioware didn't want to give us server forums at launch. We, the customers, voiced our opinions and eventually they changed their minds. Now it's once again up to us to voice our opinions and tell them to stop jerking us around and give us REAL server forums.

I hope I'm not the only one who's eyes hurt after a few minutes of trying to look through these server group forum sections. I litterally can only stand to scan through the guild pages once or twice until I need to rub my eyes. The thread PREFIX just isn't cutting it.

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1st post updated, keep the feedback coming folks

It does seem so. I can understan reluctance to cater to everyone's "poor me" request thread for game changes but this right here has been an absolute trip since early access....as it's one of the most trivial things a MMO should have.

What I find quite odd is they went through so much trouble at early access to ensure the Guild Hall was divided up by regions, East Coast/West Coast/etc. yet this new Server GROUP deal is not? So we could potentially have a mix of east/west coast servers bundled together in a group? What a mess

/wave Nice to see you over here. I followed your FRS ideas on SWG for years. Also, I found it most helpful to simply use the "FLAG" button and report the thread with a very detailed and lengthy message for the mods to read in your secret squirrel area.

I often like to use the following as a great way to jog people's thought process on the ordeal.....

Hi everyone, Due to the recent changes Bioware has added to the forums, I have recreated the consolidated SERVER FORUM thread which previously was 99 pages deep. See: http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=3500 - old thread I will be keeping this latest thread alive with all the latest updates as they come along regarding this matter. All Bioware responses will be posted to this new thread (Suggestion Box) See: http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=211262 - new thread

UPDATE: 9/18/2012 BIOWARE has finally given us server forums. Thank you BW! Also see: http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=3500 Also see: http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=173672 SWTOR Server Forums This is not a petition, this is a request. Please leave valid feedback. There has been a multitude of threads about the server forum topic. Today, we have been handed Bioware's solution to the server forum problem. So what's the issue? Simple, they have compiled a dozen servers into groups. For example: Group F-G servers have 9 servers piled up inside there. This quite simply does not work. The problem, as laid out clearly in previous threads, was that communication was a major issue. Too many people, not enough space. That's the common phrase used. Bioware's January 20th, 2012 solution to group servers by alphabetical order simply makes thing even more complicated. Customers now have to read through the mess of the new main server forum group area, and then figure out where their server is hidden. Once in their respective area they are forced into a gaggle with 8 other servers in addition to their own. The new "groups" setup is still fresh, customers have not quite picked up on it yet and traffic is still slow. One can easily estimate that once "prime time" hits and after a few days of use, these 9-server-deep gaggle pitts will become as flooded as the original Guild Hall has been since launch. Why are INDIVIDUAL server forums needed? Server forums are essential to comradery within a MMO that carries multiple servers. Servers become their own little worlds with their own little social groups. People within those little worlds, generelly, only care about what is going on in their world. Building a community that is required to divide in-game means you must facilitate a means to which the community can filter internally. "We" don't care about the economy on other serves. "We" don't care about PvP on other servers. "We" don't care about Guild X that's recruiting on the other server. "We" want to trade/sell/buy and communicate with people on our own server. SWTOR is off to a good start, let's not tarnish the image so soon. Make things right and give us server forums! EXAMPLE: http://skylineownersusa.com/images/swgservers.png -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MY OFFICIAL RESPONSE TO THE MATTER Dec 20th, 2011 12:47 AM EST Greetings my fellow SWTOR players, I would like to take a moment to thank all of you who have taken the time to provide valid feedback on this thread regarding the current issue at hand. Your comments and opinions DO matter and I appreciate your input. While the Bioware Community/Support Staff have taken the time to finally comment on this issue in this very thread, I would like to note that I have personally taken the time to read each and every single response posted in this thread, even prior to Bioware removing a vast majority of them. I value everyone's feedback on this matter as I feel that the more responses we have listed here, the more Bioware will be forced to take action and correct the issue. I say all of this with experience. I am presently the Support Manager for a large company in the industry and while I am just a simple customer here, I still feel it's my duty to do everything I can to see that this problem gets the attention it deserves and is corrected in a timely manner. I do not wish to see SWTOR go without the necessary "tools" that it needs to be successful in the market. The best experiences I have with MMO's comes from the community, without all of you I would not have a reason to play. There was a very good comment from another customer here, which stated that you cannot forge communities without server forums. Server legands cannot be born, history cannot be passed on, there's simply no identity to the game aside from the content handed down from Bioware, and that is not a MMO. Once again, thanks to all of you who have provided valuable input on this thread. I'm hopful that we will see a resolution to this problem in the near future as we press forward to lobby for change. Regards, - Van -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- SWTOR CUSTOMER FEEDBACK Some helpful feedback from your loyal customers -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- BIOWARE'S RESPONSE TO THIS MATTER Update: Jan 20th, 2012 From: http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=173672 __________________________________________________ Update: Jan 13th, 2012 From: http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=173672 More: http://torwars.com/2012/01/14/social...rums-announced __________________________________________________ Update: Dec 21st, 2011 Thanks to Dvius for taking the time to capture an official statement from Bioware in a 1 on 1 interview. http://massively.joystiq.com/2011/12...-swtor-server/ I am copying this article here for the sake of ease and so everyone can read it in black and white (or whatever catchy colors I randomly pick) __________________________________________________ Update: Dec 19th, 2011 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

9 servers have to post in the forum section where I fall into......9 servers!!!!??!! That's going back to square 1 right there. Too many people, not enough space. Give us individual forums

You have 30+ pages of feedback already. Why impliment something when there's heaps of negative feedback against it? Not to mention the 99 pages of feedback on the original thread which is still linked in my sig.

I'll repeat the user car salesman bit for you since you seem to have not read most of this thread..... SWTOR customers are much like every-day use car shoppers. We've come to the used car lot of BIOWARE, where we're looking to buy a 2 door coupe. Bioware salesman walks up and tells you all about this 4x4 quad cab truck and how great it is. You simply responed with, I don't want a truck, I want that 2 door coupe over there. Bioware salesman comes back at you with, Well you see here, this truck would be better for you and you'll like it. No matter what you say to the Bioware use car salesman, he is content with sticking to selling you the 4x4 quad cab truck, regardless that you've told him over and over that you want the 2 door coupe. Eventually you leave the car lot with a 2WD, 2 door pickup because the Bioware used car salesman said the 2 door coupe wouldn't start and wasn't reliable. Make sense now? BTW, you guys who disagree with this thread and Bioware's decision should use the following link to RATE this thread as terrible. Don't let this thread have more then 1 star. http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=173672&nojs=1#goto_threadtools

No worries, Looks like the search function is back on the layout now. I'd still recommend that everyone bookmarks my previous link.....just incase.

Sounds a lot like my life right there. Between work and family, it's wonder that I have time to even play.

Here ya go: http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=192657 You can use this for the time being: http://www.swtor.com/community/search.php

For those looking for the "search" feature, you can use http://www.swtor.com/community/search.php until it's back up

You are absolutely correct. What some people don't understand is this is exactly how politics work. It's called Lobbying. And that just happened.

Yikes!

The ALT+TAB loading screen is also annoying. Even more so when you can use a program which will not be named, to multibox and the load screens from ALT+TAB go away.

Fair points all around though I think a little transparency and communication will go a long way for them. Kind of reminds me of when Obama was running for President. Anyone else remember that? The game is new, yes, but the processes and company are not. Much of these issues should have never happened in the first place.

To think they had 8 hours to work on this

http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=192977 For the time being you can use http://www.swtor.com/community/search.php

LOL Nice one. I also found it funny this was posted today (after the patch and maintainance was nearly completed). Would be nice for them to just have a neat little oganized Announcements forum for people to go read up on recent events. Like: http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/forums/list.m?category_id=37