Well, yeah. But I do see his point. My specs are a bit higher than his.

I luld. Kudos No, what's silly is that you're choosing to ignore the fact that this is how you (the collective you of whiners) want PvP to be. So fix the problem by.... continuing with the same problem? Yeah, this makes no sense man. LETS JUST ADD MORE GEAR TO GRIND FOR (while people still have numerical advantages over others, muwahahaha) What are you saying here? I will choose to think that english isn't your first language and respond appropriately. If I was implying anything close to what you said it would be more that people DO pve just to PvE. But until some game comes along and changes the mold and makes PvE dynamic and skill-based (more like an FPS. without aggro tables, memorized sequences, tank/healer/dps holy trinity mechanics etc) the way PvE is played is determined by both gear checks and ability to memorize sequences. Also if I in my guild am better geared that you, PvE wise, it does not hinder your progress or cause you to fail in your PvE (in fact if we group it helps you. Co-operative play and all). On the other hand if you're in level 50 blues and I'm in BM for PvP then I am directly affecting your win/loss. It is now competitive. It should now be balanced and not some stupid steamroll because I exploited/grinded longer to get an artificial mechanical advantage that prevents you from winning, no matter how skillfully you play. You really make no sense.

You do know that these whining "hardcore" PvP'ers ARE the vocal MINORITY right? The majority are the hated so called "casuals" and "carebears" that they despise so much. It's not even a close margin either.

Agreed. Kudos to BW for changing the system for their PvP to what is the best. IE: Moddable equipment for vanity, prestige and bragging rights (along with titles and other "LOOK AT ME" awards). That is all true pvpers should need as a reward. A trophy. A trophy doesn't give you an advantage when playing your sport, it's just there to show off and say "Yeah, I'm ******".

Odd. I run Win 7 64 bit and have never had a single performance issue with the game on highest resolution and max graphics settings. Constant 150-200 fps. My puter isn't top of the line either: Intel IE dual core 3.8ghz 16 gigs ram Nvidia 460 gt 1gig x2 (SLI) I'm in dire need of upgrading my video cards which will hopefully happen soon. But yeah, haven't had a single performance issue with the game running on Win 7 with an outdated puter. Thanks for the info though, might help some people having similar issues. Kudos to you.

Back at you for not comprehending that PvE, IE: PLAYER VS ENVIRONMENT (AI, mobs, non-competitive against other players) is vastly different from PLAYER VS PLAYER IE: You're competing against other PLAYERS. They are two completely seperate gamestyles and need to follow seperate rules. When a player is competing against another player the most level and fair playing field is the only way to have a successful game. Care to play chess with me? Only you get 4 pawns, and have to earn other pieces through multiple wins. I on the other hand will start with a full piece count and a spare queen. This will also be ranked with prizes going to the winner. Sound good?

/facepalm You realize that "instant" in the ability description means NO CAST TIME. The fact that it's a RANGED stun means that yes you're going to have travel time delay when you're shooting a dart at range. Do it to someone in melee combat with you, it will hit much sooner than that because it doesn't travel as far. FFS man, be happy it isn't a melee range only ability to begin with and that you have the option to stun someone from 30m away.

It actually works fine once you start paying attention. There's a sticky, read it. Currently it's more Comp/Premade > Class > Gear > Skill Fortunately from the sounds of it BW are taking a great step by changing it to what you described: Comp(Or Premade) > Class > Skill > Gear Gear should never be a factor in PvP. Ever

Perhaps make the other healers nerfed down to be as effective as Op/Scoundrel healers? IE: 1 interrupt completely shuts them down, and reliant on RNG (or melee) procs of a 2ndary energy mechanic. Oh, and no knockbacks, leaps, sprints or pulls. *Sorry, just have to throw a bone for the Op/Scoundrel crowd out there who got the shaft hard and are pity worthy now when you see them. I honestly feel bad every time one shows up because they're so easy to send back to the respawn area without having helped much.*

Nice, love it man. Trying to start up an all trooper guild on our server (buddy and I) because glowbatters aren't appealing at all. And what looks cooler than a squad of troopers mowing down a planet through a hail of gunfire and grenades? Nothing in my book.

So you don't believe that this game will ever have more than 4 WZ's and a working world PvP system (most of this can always be blamed on the playerbase)? Damn man, pretty set on that considering the game has been out what, a little over a quarter year? I'll choose to believe that patches will continue to come with new content, probably an expansion or two, etc. Endgame gear progression will always be there for PvE until someone breaks the mold and has dynamic skill-based combat for PvE encounters (more akin to crazy intense FPS singleplayer gaming, only co-op) where the holy trinity of tank/healer/dps isn't necessary and tab targetting/gear checks are looked upon as archaic novelties.

Um, no. They're about playing a game with many other people at the same time. That's it. Even RPG's aren't ABOUT progression, they're about role-playing. Progression just happens to be PART of SOME rpg's (others don't even use levels or anything and simply free-flow story wise) You're not though. You simply have more time than other people, which logically would indicate you're the opposite of "better than the rest". All gear grinds are is time. That's it. Very very rarely is there some groundbreaking monumental skill requirement to get the gear. Just time. Being rewarded for having excess time to grind is silly (korean MMO might capture your heart it sounds like). So is the concept of giving better players inflated stat advantages for being better... which lets them curbstomp people and get more advantages.... which lets them afk curbstomp people and get more advantages... while watching a movie. That's the complete opposite system of any competitive venue.

It's elitist ******es who revel in their own misguided self importance and desire to subjugate other people that has ruined the planet.

Which is why the idea of "competitive" MMORPG PvP is a joke. The idea of WoW trying to do an e-sport using this system was the laughing stock of the rest of the PG community and even by it's own players. Gear vs Gear is awesome and breeds amazingly skilled players with good sportsmanship..... owait.

That would be FPS's or RTS's primarily. You know, where there is real skill-based PvP.

Abloo bloo, abloo bloo bloo T.T

This already happens and huge gear disparities don't fix it, they exacerbate it.

Funny I'm starting to think that there are a bunch of terrible human beings whose sole joy in life is to complain about everything and demean everyone else as "casual" or lesser than they are in order to make themselves feel special. The world would be much better off without them.

You DESERVE nothing. But thanks for being honest about not being a real PvPer but some other scrub that just wants stat advantages to roflstomp people with less time to spend grinding gear.

Indeed. Less elitist ******es in the game that treat everyone else like garbage. Sounds like the best thing ever.

Well if you didn't then something would be REALLY broken. And one with an empty resolve bar will get roflstomped by all the cc/utility sages/sorcs bring. There does seem to be a large influx of assassins coming up though.

Because you can look at these forums for example. 90% of the people you run into are raging, infantile, whining, narcissistic children that are completely disgusting examples of the worst dregs of humanity.

And that's the attitude and people that should be removed from the game and the community like the cancer they are.

No actually, it doesn't. PvP is a competition against other players. In competitive games balance is very important. PvE is a completely different beast.

Yup. Less tedium.