Rename to PVP is dead.

What you mean you big meanie pre-mades really don't want a competitive fight? OMG you should be banned from your guild for even hinting at this? I guess ROFLSTOMPING is fun if you are on the right side.

Yeah there are tons of bugs and hacks in the game. Maybe BW will get around to fixing them.

A three year old computer is old. Technology is changing about every 6 months. I run an Intel I 7 with 8gb ram, SSD drive and I have no problems in Windows 7. Also as a pvp most of us run low to make sure that we don't have problems. Pretty pictures are fine but when you are in a fight you want performance over pretty. Just because you can put in 80GB of ram on a motherboard does not mean that the OS you have installed can use all of it. Most of you need to go take some computer 101 classes. You can probably improve performance by stopping services you don't use. How much is up for debate. Turn off all the apps running in the background might help a min spec box too....ie the HP printer monitor, etc that you see on the bottom right in windows 7.

At first I didn't like Huttball. But when forced to play it to advance I learned that the game has a ton of depth. Don't get me wrong I do not want to play it all day long but for me it was an acquired taste. I don't think most people start understanding the game until they have played it about 20 times. Did you understand American Football or Rugby or Cricket the first time you watched it, let alone played it? People should have the option to pick what warzones they want to play. They wont do this because they fear the backlash of all the Imp subs having to wait forever for a queue to play in other warzones.

You do realize that they have taken out more than they have released. What exactly have they put out since launch? The promise of 1.2 that honestly is pure window dressing and not much meat. Lots of shiny toys, more class nerfing to make the game even easier. Wow would take much longer because whatever they would release would first of all work. This is a pvp forum why are you talking about raids. Most of us could care less about the pve content in the game. This is not about raids it is about a failed pvp system that has for the most part been scrapped and we are left playing little mini games over and over and over again usually against ourselves. That does not feel like a war between the factions to me. Does anyone feel like there is any war going on anywhere? The game has been in development for 4 years and appears that it still have about two more years to go before it is done.

Grind: A laborious task, routine, or study: the daily grind. Anything you have to do over and over to get something is a grind. The time it takes is irrelevant. The entire game for the most part is a grind. Almost every MMO requires you to grind to level. If you have pvp gear it should always outclass the pve stuff. End of story and another brilliant failure by BW.

A warzone should never ever ever START if the side are unbalanced. There are no excuses. This is just terribly lazy coding and a complete failure to understand their own game. Shorten the accept timers or lengthen the timer before the actual start of the match and don't let a match start until there are 8. End of story. Just fix the Queuing. There is no need for a bunch of bandaids that give this and that and whatever. They can't managed to get a simple thing like starting an 8 man WZ right why do you possibly think they could program in all the if's, and's and whatever's that may or may not happen. Face it folks. PVP was a complete after thought. We got sold a bill of goods or given a check that they can't cash. When you get get the simple stuff right, how could you expect them to actually put together real world open pvp?

More people are hacking exploiting each day and nothing from BW. They knew the game was hackable in Beta yet released the game without a way to stop it. Lag switching is happening in almost every WZ and by people belonging to some well know guilds and these guilds are the people that BW is catering too with their Guild Summit? Really? Things that make you go hmmmmmm.

It took 12 pages for them to finally figure out they had an issue and numerous deleted threads. Sad how quickly the wheels have flown off this bus.

Most of the pvp crowd has already quit or is just biding their time until another game comes along. There will be no real open world pvp. The game had to be designed around it and it was designed mostly as a single player game that has others playing at the same time. Honestly are 3 or 4 simple warzones constitute decent pvp? Not to most. Huttball is unique and is fun a couple of times a day but not every time. The devs are lost. Server pops on pvp servers seem to be dropping fast. Maybe across all servers as there is really a very limited amount of content. They encourage rolling alts but going through the same content 4 or 8 times.....no thanks. There was absolutely no mention of anything to balance the factions. Without faction balance you will never have decent open world pvp. BW is trying to say anything to keep people subbed. They botched a simple two thing patch and instanced the fleet in to 8 man groups........ When the failed to do the right thing when faced with the ilum exploit I think most lost confidence in BW. Then they scrap it, scrap valor, scrap bm gear, thus minimizing anyone's accomplishments who actually did it right. And they have no freaking answer for all the hacking? This game is done.

They cannot be killed. If you read the 100's of threads about Sorcs you would know this. Either quit or roll a Sorc. What class can't kill a sorc is my real answer.

Unreal. Does BW really test anything? or is the game that bad that we now have to have 8 man instances on the fleet? I fail to understand the Massive part of MMO when you get to play with 8 people. This should make everyone so confident about what 1.2 will bring.....yikes Curious that the patch was to repair two simple issues nothing related to the fleet. Sure makes me wonder how many other issues are being fixed or attempting to be fixed and BW is not telling us.

Why have a test server if minor issues like that are not caught or was this patch not put on test? If not what genius decided not to put it on test. It is great to allow the players to waste their time on test finding bugs but ultimately it is BW's responsibility. Way to go. Chase off more people BW! I can only image what kind of mess the game will be in when or if 1.2 makes it live.

QA? We don't need no stinkin QA!

Un sub now and wait about 6 months when the game will go F2P and the game will rock for about a month and then everyone will leave again.

I wonder if he feels better? Apparently he has never been to an MMO's forums before.

It can be cheaters cause nobody in this game cheats.......I am starting to think that very few play it straight anymore.

If you quit WOW then why in the world would you want this game to be just like it?

Explain how she was short changed on gear because of the patches. If she is doing her dailies and weeklies you buy your Champ gear. For sure she is just complaining to complain now. If she can't get a 5k medal for heals then she needs to learn to play. After 4 medals there is no need to care, there is no more rewards coming unless you get mvp votes. I get medals without even trying with my healer. Try other classes where you have work hard to get over 4. Pop an expertise, pop the skill that gives you almost 100 percent chance to crit, hit your relic and heal.....boom 5k heal. I usually get it without even trying any of the above. Quit worrying about medals and play to win and have fun. There will always be someone with more of something in these games because the play more or concentrated on a different area, whatever.

People are looking for RVR realm vs realm Imp vs Pub where they are fighting over something important related to the game. A fight for resources, territory, extra loot, control of certain areas or planets for a reason. There are no reasons to do this in the game. You could have created two separate mmos with what they did as the two sides have no real interaction or reason to interact or conflict. You can't call for realm wide help if a guild were to take over Hoth or Voss or wherever. A bunch of 50's going to a lower level world to cause distress is really not world pvp either especially if the main goal is to not allow people to do quests which have no bearing on RVR but then again nothing affects RVR as there is no RVR. Ilum has 4 points that could be taken, which requires no skill and one toon and the rewards are a valor buff. Valor is pretty much useless anymore. It was only a place to go to complete daily and weekly missions which were put in place to force people to go there. Ilum favors the zerg and the zerg will always be the imps. Warhammer had tons of flaws but at least they had 4 tier rvr which actually had some game influence on conquering the world. When you captured a keep a guild could claim it and upgrade it etc. All sorts of money sinks were in place. There is nothing in place like this other than 3 WZ's that are small and by now most have tired of. Two are mostly AOE wars and the other is dominated by a couple of classes. 4 years of work and this is what we get. Why was BW surprised at the interest in PVP? Obviously that had little idea what their player base was going to look like. This is all on BW. They do not deserve a pass because of their lack of insight. After all they did make some pretty big promises about pvp didn't they? Most of it has already been tossed out.

Lazy programming at work here. I would love to see the number of active lvl 50's per pvp server stats. I have 4 toons as a pub but only one is lvl 50. So that would skew the numbers in favor of the pubs. People crying about pvp issues on non pvp servers is irrelevant. If you wanted to pvp you would have rolled on a pvp server. A server with only 5 imp 50's? I don't buy that for a millisecond.

The point being is that BW has overlooked an import aspect of the game. Communication..... Then again go look at some of the dev posts lately. I am not sure they understand how to communicate or they all are running for political office with their replies.

That is coming in 1.2. or so they say.

I have got pub V pub huttball when we had maybe 50 on and I was just on the same server with my imp toon and there were well over 150 imps in fleet and most of them lvl 50 hanging around the pvp kiosk. I suspect that there is some programing that might allow for more same faction wz's. I do not believe for an instant that the imps were not queuing up for wz's.