Oh, lighten up..it was a joke. What does, 'a sense of progression' have ANYTHING to do with what you quoted from me? Haha..you're weird.

I agree: Bioware just doesn't look very good when only considering this live event. It looks rushed, the rewards (yay I'm an Operative!) aren't fully spread out and the mechanics of getting the individual items just....suck. I'm glad you agree about the WoW holidays, that stuff was just pure fun. I mean I remember it clearly: I was stuck inside with a cold during a nice chilly October evening and logged in to WoW to find a bunch of guildies running around like headless chickens trying to complete Hallows' End stuff. I joined in and it was genuinely fun. For one freakin' night, everyone was just trying to help people, group up and have fun instead of the constant trolling and boring-ness that had even become WoW at that point. Yes, guy whose name I can't remember, achievements played a big part in making more people want to do things but as a guy who started playing WoW the day TBC released I can say I always enjoyed those events as a way to 'kick back' and just enjoy myself instead of mindlessly banging my head against various walls. TBC was pretty unforgiving.

You must lead a shallow life then sir and I feel bad for you.

*cough* WoW has held many live holiday events over the years and they were always enjoyable with good loot (mostly collectibles) that to this day I still have in my bank box and occasionally break out. I still have the Halloween Wand

You are on an awesome server and I would like to know which one. I'm playing on POT5 and while people are generally very nice there, it was getting pretty um....heated in the laser room. I had to beg someone to invite me to a group, and when they did they just instanced off without warning! Now, this turned out to be a good idea because in the second instance of DK we were the only ones in the room but it should have never come to that. Thirty plus people in a room, all trying to click the little door button and then everyone and their brother messing with the controls while we're trying to set up the laser and mirrors is not what I would call a fun experience. It's kinda nerve wracking because you NEED that item to finish the chain and yet you feel like it could conceivably take all day. It should have been implemented in a different way.

/thread.

No, it's not the end of the argument, even though said argument is moronic. You, nor any other poster here knows what EA or Bioware is going to do. That's the only REAL fact in this entire thread. All of you guys can continue to go back and forth on it and neither side will be totally wrong and vice versa, but at the end of the day, nobody will know until the people in charge let us know. That said, switching ACs would be the most horribly stupid thing ever. It's pretty much the worst thing they could do after going F2P. Buncha gimme gimmes around here. At least y'all are better than the GW2 crowd..they remind me a lot of the BDF back during beta for this game.

Animal Crossing rules!

LOL, maybe if they had based some of their decisions on what informed posters were saying (especially during beta testing) they wouldn't be in the situation they're in now. Food for thought there, Nangle.

I will posit this question: How often has Bioware done what they've said to a 'T', at least when it comes to SW:TOR? Not very bloody often. I'm suuuure they and EA have nothing but the best intentions at heart, but unless they have seriously turned a few corners since the top guys left and the layoffs, who knows what they could see as 'not giving significant advantage' and what they don't?

The true answer is: nobody actually knows, despite all the opinions that are being thrown around as facts in this thread.

Hahahah....been using snow and grass since pre-launch pal, not gonna stop now.

You know what's funny about this post is that I have never had this experience until recently hitting 50 on my alt (my main is a raider). My GOD..every freaking board it's just a bunch of lightsaber wielding jerks who do nothing but slow, stun and otherwise annoy the crap out of me (PT). I mean, I'm horrible at Huttball. When the game first released (actually, prelaunch) I thought Huttball was awesome. In some ways I still do, but all that Force Leaping, Pulling and what have you is just so....infuriating lol. I feel like a freakin' turtle on that board.

I'm still going to play SW:TOR and since I pre-purchased GW2 months ago, I'm gonna have a go at that game too. All I'm really posting to say is that every person that posted in here that they won't touch GW2 because they are tired of fantasy games just aren't very bright; Star Wars is a space fantasy IP. Period. So..you're playing a fantasy game right now. If you clarified and said you didn't want to play a traditional fantasy game, there wouldn't be a problem.

Sure. I'm sure they'll find a way for people to convert their Cartel Coins into cold hard cash for use on the Itunes store or something.

Seems flawed to me. The reason people have been jumping ship is because whoever at Bioware that made the decisions made awful ones. I'm sure EA making them rush the product out the door didn't help. In fact, everything about this game is rushed. They rush out patches and break things that work. They rush out minor content that breaks things. They rush to fix bugs and by doing so have to rush other things that break other things. They rush out faulty announcements and then have to retract them. Now they're rushing to go F2P instead of just listening to what their actual playerbase wants and would have stayed on and paid a subscription to have. The only thing they haven't rushed is actual content for the game. Now they're going to let people come play for free and that's supposed to ensure that people spend more money when they've (players) already shown that they wouldn't even pay a base rate? Does not compute.

The fact that we have Legacy Perks at all is freakin' miraculous. If there's anything to be blamed besides Bioware's slow implementation of standard MMO functions and systems, I think the Guild Summit is one of the last on the list. Also, if you have the super high Legacy requirement needed for a lot of these Perks, you should undoubtedly have the coin to go along with it. People are running around with millions of credits and complaining in chat about how they don't have anything left to spend it on.

Yea dudes, definitely not paying for a Lifetime even if they offered it. Not because I wouldn't pay for it or enjoy it; far from that. Unfortunately, with EA at the helm, they could easily charge a Lifetime fee, have all the most stalwart players buy it and then cancel the damn game months from now. They've done it before and they'll do it again, hopefully not for this game but I wouldn't take that chance.

Hahahaha, true that.

LOL did that actually happen?! I suppose I shouldn't be surprised, I mean people moaned about the random class I picked in Dec. of 2011 and got it nerfed all to Hell, and then nerfed the random crew skill I picked and got that nerfed all to Hell too, so why shouldn't Bioware continue to placate the whining masses for BS stuff instead of fixing REAL problems?

Is Bioware having a special employee lunch since it's Friday Jarjar?

Haha, this thread is hilarious.. We have a bunch of nerdy elitists posting about how much they despise the equally nerdy TotalBiscuit for no reason other than he's popular, thus proving that they're jerks. Why did you even come into the thread? Did you really think posting, 'TB suuuuuc***s!,' was gonna mean anything to people who actually came into the thread to discuss the content of the linked video? I also love how the actual discussion was revolving around the 'bad blood' F2P was gonna bring and yet this thread is full of people who pay to play the game and yet are trooooollliiinnng nonstop. If ya ask me, there aren't going to be any worse trolls that come in when F2P starts because they're already here.

Okay, here's what I don't get. Why are all these people saying Bioware offering, 'the best thing about this game (the story, apparently)' instead of *BIG OL' QUESTION MARK*. Hey guys, what else are they supposed to offer? They can't offer free PvP, because leveling up without the help of PvE is just telling people to uninstall. They can't offer anything else, so what else are they supposed to give people for free?

Man, the original post had a slightly angry tone to it, a sort of 'u mad' if you will. Am I right on with that, or did I miss something in the eight pages that have spawned since?

Umm, this. Hey, F2P advocates..........read this. Over and over again. Then read it some more and shaddap.