This is from the Gree event griefing the orb que. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdFG8TauynA though it was funny. Good event PS it can be viewed in 1080 PHD

Yes it does. In the PvP tab where it has the % for dmg,dmg reduction and healing if you highlight the DMG tool tips its says increased damage delt when attacking a player or companion.

It spawns when one team has more players then the other? Really? That's news to me.

This guys does not get it. Best of 5 is terrible. Competitive matches that last all 5 rounds could potentially go for over 25 min. That's almost 2 full duration voidstar's back to back. That's a crazy long time for 1 game. Its boring and not fun playing that long for just 1 game when We can get 2-4 games in that time. Back to your point if the games you are in are only lasting as long as you say its either b/c you and/or your team sux and is getting rolled or the other team sux an is getting rolled by you.

Season 1 with about 6 teams....... Y do they even bother? Its about 2 years late.

It is but the prob is i think its sadly to late. The game has lost too much population already due to frustration so arena simply can not have a meaningful match making system due to lack of numbers in que. If arenas were brought out say 3 months ago and we were getting class balance then like now then i think The game would have been in a far better state as well as its longevity would have been exteneded. just my opinion.

Shadow tanks buffed armor....very nice Very happy from a PvP point of view.

OPFTM trolling?? Don't be silly!!

Trebit post his 134-2 record and no one bats an eyelid. Non circle jerk member posts his record and get immediate reply for being sad. Love the bastion

The team's record against DP is actually pretty good. Not as ED claims but not bad imo. Not sure the exact win loss ratio but there have been many wins and losses both ways. (even against their main team Wrucks tank ant/tara dps sents, Mlke scoundrel heals). Maybe DP has the better win/loss against us but Its impossible to tell without proper leaderboards what the exact ratio is. I have never been in a team that has beaten them but then again I have only faced them 2 times while in our full team...both were losses on my shadow tank (boo to me). As for MVP i think we have only beaten "AN" MVP team 2-3 times?, and never beaten the A team although have taken a couple rounds off the "A team" in losses. I would say we are pretty competitive but still need to work on stuff. I am currently 62-14 in 2.4. (bout 3 losses are while puging but about 3 wins also while puging) I have never been in a team that has played casual or tauntaunts though. I am the only <Elite> guy atm in the main Core team.

Sorry to hear that man. Hopfully tomorrow/today's (timezone) maintenance fixes the stupid bug.

lol so epic

So that the competitive teams can read it and agree to the rules which thanks to this post they have. Good post

Its OP in 1v1 agreed...read up i say they are the strongest. Its under powered in Group Ranked arena, which is the most important part of PvP b/c its the rated/ranked PvP in this game. Everything else is not as important. Competitive play is what balance needs to revolve around in PvP. Just like balance needs to revolve around Operations for PvE, End game stuff. Its good in solo but no where near OP. Maras, Snipers, PT's are all more powerful by far in solo ranked. Normal WZ again is situational. They are close to useless in Hutball but very strong in Hypergate and Civil war, Voidstar and not as strong in Novre coast b/c they can't sap/lift cap nodes. Open world PvP....LOL I think you are playing the wrong game. SWTOR does not have any meaningful Open world PvP. Sorry they are only OP in one aspect of the game and its not even a meaningful aspect of the game. If there was a 1v1 arena then sure but there is not.

Its clear after going back and forth that you have not played much competitive team ranked arenas. Do me a favor get your OP sin friends and form a team and come over to the Bastion so we can farm free ranked coms and rating. Bobcow needs to get to 4k rating b4 they reset the rating....transfer gogogo.

Most apac guilds on this server are confused and think this is a PvE server. Hardly any group arena pops in APAC prime time.

I do play a Shadow but I specialize as a tank. Wakalord (eaten by distance forum name) is perhaps the best Deception Sin in the world...definitely on the Bastion. He has won the last two 1v1 Tournaments (tournaments are big usually 60+ entrants) and came 2nd in the last 2v2 tournament (with Justbodies as his partner) Even he does not take his Deception assassin into arenas often, and when he does he gets outperformed by players that are not as skilled as he is for the sole reason that they are playing classes more sutied to a 4v4 setting. OPness of a Sin is situational. Perhaps in the solo ranked que when you are facing teams that have no voice chat co-ordination,Tank's that don't guard switch and DPS classes that tunnel and don't know how to peel for their healers when the tank is CCed or not able ( or to much of a nub to know how) then yea a good assassin will destroy teams. In 4v4 TEAM arena at the top tier of ranked (best teams) Sins get eaten alive. They are a one trick pony that can be countered very easily. They open strong but quick guard switching by on the ball tanks as well as taunts kills their burst very fast. In addition once they blow their opening they are dead in the water as there sustained DPS is not fantastic unless they vanish to gain their Recklessness/Force potency back. This creates a new problem b/c now they have wasted a valuable defensive cooldown which any smart team will now focus fire the sin and rape him very fast. Ppl forget Deception sins are basically sorcs when it comes to dmg mitigation so they go down very fast.

I am aware that deception sins/inf Shadows are the best 1v1 class. But arenas are not 1 v 1. The TS wanted to know what the alpha classes are and while deception sins are 1v1 specialist class it lacks the same performance in 4v4 team fights. The problem is it suffers under co-ordinated fire and it lacks sustained DPS. I don't know what the solution is to be honest I just call it as it is. The facts above don't change.

The Joke is on you to be honest. In the top bracket of Group arena PvP deception is far to squishy. It might be godly when playing against scrubs and random pugs that can't co-ordinate anything but in top tier group ranked PvP they are fodder. Come play on the Bastion and face teams like MVP, Don't Panic, Casual and Core and they will eat your deception sins up like they were happy meals at Maccas.

Optimal DPS Mara Rage AP PT Very good Sniper (all specs) Viable (if a good player) Merc (arsenal) Sorc (madness and madness lightning hybrid but is a high skill cap class so have to be a very good player) PT Pyro Mara other specs Rage Jug Under Par Deception Sin Vengeance Jug Cr@p Madness Assassin Dps Ops.

I posted somthing very similar a week ago but u hit the nail on the head. BW already has a rep system in place. It's not hard to link season 1 group to a rep vendor that for every game u win or loss u get faction rep that u can then spend coms at the vendor to get kool items like crystals weapons skins armour skins mounts emotes etc that are exclusive to group arena rep vendors.

Bastion and POT5 and create a midway server.

Yea sorry bro we literally got them the night b4 and we assumed ppl would be using them that's Y me and Bob ran one in that game against your team (Jeck and Onasis did not) Also Guardian is not my alt and I think the boys told him not to use his in the later games I did not play.

Cool story.

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