Now get the rest of the crew as well bro!! WB

They just need to tone down smash dmg from maras...prob solved imo

As bob said Core is around still but a couple of there players are on a break like Jeck waiting for 2.4 and arenas wich is not smoke and mirrors as it is live on PTS and working bar a couple bugs. Afew median players are floating about, I c koozie and azazel around in war zones. Your old guildy Zarth is also in median but on the Harb for some reason the guild is split between the 2 servers. Luc is also with them over there. The elite are still active, my lord is with us. I think I seen jakka around as well but can't b 100% sure.

I do agree that rage Jugs are not the real prob and i am not asking for anything to be nerfed into the ground, jsut adjusted. I think Smash should be changed to not being an auto crit after leap. A 40% increase in Crit chance is more then plenty to keep dmg good and will be an appropriate adjustment. Also Focus spec sents should not be able to be healed when under the effect of force camo just like most of the other stealth specs cant be healed when vanished. Then give a talent to Combat and Watchman that allows for healing under camo high in the tree. That will help tone down the dmg a little without killing the class as well as deal with putting a limitation on 1 of the DC's of focus.

Game, Set, Match right here. I think u nailed it. In the real world u can crunch all the numbers on a computer or on paper and in a lab run as many experiments in a controlled environment but until u field test stuff u will never b 100% sure. The devs need to look at how classes perform in the hands of the best and most experienced players on their servers. U know the same players that roflstomped them at there own game. There is a reason y they lost bc they ironically lack knowledge and/or experience at high end Pvp.

Sage/sorcs dps and heals are not the real problem. The real problem is Scoundrel/OP healers are just better in PvP They have better healing output under pressure then Sages/sorcs as well as better survivabilty in general. This is further compounded by the presence of Focus speced Mara/sents. There dmg output combined with their defensive CDs and some down right mind boggling abilities (zealous leap while rooted...really BW?) makes things very difficult. If Mara/Sents were toned down as well as Scoundrel/OP healers then it would even then playing field a little more. It would be a totally new environment where classes would then be on more of an even footing. In effect i think its easier to Nerf 2 classes (specs) then making wide changing changes to 14 other classes and their respective specs. Doing that is just a recepie for disaster that will create even worse balance changes. Oh and buff Mando/Merc healers. TLDR: Buff 1 Class spec, nerf 2 don't buff 14 classes and specs. This will likely do the trick.

The only way to make maras viable is to add a 30m range to smash. BW Make it happen...... Wait a minute....

Don't worry guys He will be leaving the thread pretty soon.

Vangaurd get 30% reduction to AE dmg so they get smashed for krrap all. If they re stunned they take a further 30% less dmg and then take lol dmg They have more armor by default and in tactics/AP reactive sheild has a time reducing talent so it comes round pretty fast. they can pull healers and or tanks to separate them to help set up kills. They have great DMG both single and ae. They can single target and ae taunt....Saved our team many times when tank was cced and could not switch gaurd. all in all they are a very solid class and are more then viable in combination with a sent/mara,

Actualy Jug tank/Op healer/ mara dps and PT DPS is just as viable. AP PT/Tactics Vangaurds are just as good for the second DPS slot.

lol lucky for me they can't heal to full like me.

U serious?? I am lvl 1. If i was 55 and sucked i would be upset....but not be bro. I am going to LOS maras and heal to full all the time and make them pay for trying to kill me!

Now that BW have let the cat out of the bag i am going to be the worlds best sage and sorc. http://imageshack.us/f/841/w7h2.jpg/

Now that BW have let the cat out of the bag i am going to be the worlds best sage and sorc. http://imageshack.us/f/841/w7h2.jpg/

this is *********** gold! I am getting blown up. I am too good for rateds. some funny **** here.

Omg lol at complaining that melee classless are at a huge disadvantage. For all the ppl that did not read the above let me give you the TLDR version. TLDR: Pre 2.0 Sucked b/c i was out geared and always lost 2.0 Sucks b/c Premades ruin PVP 2.4 Arenas suck b/c...... Damn b/c i am a bad and always lose

Very fun. Pops are quick matches are quick and Never faced the same team twice. Also it looks like by default ppl are gravitating to forming fleet pugs and ignoring the solo que which is good for team population and then allows the match making system to work. Yes its a bit buggy with DCs etc. What i would like to see is a proper Leaders board.

Ok super excited for arenas but i feel that it has not been implemented properly. You have solo que and group que. Thats fine and you can have 2 different ratings. Please make groups REGISTER their teams. Have a roster of 10 interchangeable ppl (or legacies) and the TEAM gets a rating. You can then make a MEANINGFUL leaders board based on team. If it is done like the 8v8 preseason ranked then what is the difference!? Its a half baked system with no real diffrence except it will have a pretty label that says Season 1 that means nothing. Who is the best team. What does the best TEAM get for being the best. What are the top 20 TEAMS? If you want to know who the best solo players are the solo que and solo rating covers that! PLEASE HAVE PROPER LEADER BOARDS!

Free ranked for Don't Panic and/or MVP....Definitely. We all know however you are after free cheeseburgers. Sorry you don't get those for free Goobey.

We only played u guys once same with crits Both were losses

/signed Money at the very least needs to be buffed xp is not great but win legacy unlock plus stims it's not "terrible" but not great. I would be happy with a 20% buff.

Yea awesome game EVE. Hardcore PvP ruleset. Most WOW generation players would vry like babies when they are killed. But i digress SWTOR has decent PvP. Yes it not 100% balanced but i can't think of any current MMO that is. For all the crying about PvP in this gameI don't think any MMO currently out there is any better then SWTOR. What SWTOR lacks is content. We have been in pre-season for close to a year and there is no diversity in WZ like some other games. Hutball is fresh and different though but we need more. 16 v 16 op sized WZ's. Arean's and a proper season 1 for all ranked play and cross server ques to create larger amounts of active players/teams to make match making work.

I have levelled 3 55 via WZ's. I did however unlock the 30% boost to xp via WZs as well as took advantage of double xp weekends using stims and my guild has 10% xp boost. If u did this its actually quite quick.. Not As fast as questing but much more fun.

Pre 2.0 "omg gear>skill" Post 2.0 "omg premades are ruining Pvp Scrubs will make any excuse to validate themselves. Anything but admiring they are the problem

U assume wrong With this set up u have heals tank and dps covered in any combination u like 3 dps 1 heal 2 dps 2 heal 2 dps 1 tank 1 heal 4 dps 2 tank 2 heal troll team 2 tanks 1 dps 1 heal Pretty stupid that a 2 AC compesition can do this. Also clearly from reading your post u don't know what works a the high end of ranked Pvp. Commando and sage heals really? Teams are running triple OP heals for a reason. It's simple stacking ops works better then Sages or commandos. 3 OP healers means 3 double stacks of slow release on each target so targets still take significant healing even though the healers are getting locked out. They also get other insta heals like kolto cloud. The other healing classes can not compete with this when they have to hard cast while being lept on and chain interrupted Allowing of stacking classes in arenas will quickly see teams of only 2 ACs. If u don't have one of those classes then don't expect an invite on any serious team.