no, hes just a hybrid assassin who likes to troll.

i think this thread just got hijacked by a mod....

ok, sorry, i got force shroud and force cloak mixed up, also forgot about avoidance training since its a passive skill and not an actual ability or talent, but that still leaves assassin with 3 more tools then an operative. also, im pretty sure most people arent pissed about the PvP aspects of the 20% ArP nerf but rather that it hurts an already lacking PvE or at least thats what ive been seeing.

if your going to throw in healing ill throw in the fact that an assassin can actually equip a shield gen and go into dark charge to gain a ton of survivability as well as self healing. also, if you would open your eyes a little instead of trying so hard to remain ignorant of whats going on, you would see that cloaking screen, is already on there and nobody is arguing that a nerf to their burst wasnt needed but rather a the blanket damage nerf was too much.

nobody is putting words in your mouth, your the one who said it! see!!!!! and your wrong, heres why... Assassin - Operative Unbreakable Will - Escape Force Cloak - Cloaking Screen Electrocute - Debilitate Force Slow - Sever Tendon Force Shroud - Evasion Force Speed - ??? Spike - ??? Overload - ??? Whirlwind - ??? ??? - Flash Bang threw spike in because it is possible for an assassin to use this as an in combat/out of stealth escape tool. thats a total of 5 tools an assassin has over an operative while an operative only has 1 over an assassin.

your proving your ignorance here cowflab. as somebody who plays both i can say with a 100% certainty that assassins have alot easier time escaping from a bad situation then an operative.

youll have to excuse cowflab, we tried to keep him chained up in the assassin forums but every once in a while he gets out and spews his know-it-all garbage into places it doesnt belong.

Your logic is so flawed. Giving us the ability to see what were doing and what other are doing to us would allow us to separate legitimate OP/UP classes and abilities from all the random QQ.

Unfortunately this thread makes sense, so it will probably be page 3 by morning.

yeah, too much QQ on the forums to see that this nerf is whats really OP. problem Operatives do too much burst with buff stacking solution lower damage of hidden strike and remove buff stacking 1.1.1 solution lower damage of hidden strike, remove buff stacking, make jarring strikes the most expensive interrupt in the game, lower operative sustained damage.... cause our sustained was the issue. sounds like the dev's got a tad carried away when they swung that bat.

would you spend 2 talent points to give an ability you can use only once per fight a stun the length of a global cooldown that still fills the resolve bar just as much as it did when it was 3s?

and reward for the most repetitive troll goes to sheneria with over 9000 "l2P" posts in a single day.

i would like us all to take a moment of silence to mourn the passing of the dps operative in PvE because of PvP inbalancing. it was hard at first, but he just couldnt stand all the "QQL2P" so BW finaly stepped in to sign form 1.1.1 that pulled the plug and ended his suffering. farwell my friend, i shall think of you often as i play my assassin.

so people that play the game at launch can get the experiance from leveling their characters as well as the people who buy the guy after its added.

most people that complain about stealth classes dont realise that the trade-off for stealth is that were squishy and after that initial burst were pretty much spent. they just see somebody appear out of nowhere to attack them, panic, fat finger the wrong stuff and die. then they come here and QQ.

i know right! the sheer amount of crying happening on the forums is rediculous. does the assassin and the sorcerer share several abilities, story, companions and ship? yes. guess how many classes share those same things with the sorcerer and assassin? NONE. that means there is 14 other ACs with 7 different storylines, ships, and companions for you to try. instead of complaining about having to play the same story over (even though your can play it different since they actually give you choices) pick a new class with a new story and stop all this pointless ************. in every other MMO i have ever played (been over 15 years so quite a few) there has never been more the 1 or 2 storylines if any. if you wanted to play a new class you had to play the exact same content over again, and again, and again.... then BW comes along and makes 8 storylines to play through and you guys sit here and complain about it. you people make me weep for the species.

anyone remember the good ol' days when players went out and found that perfect spot... and started a freaking war! the discovery of TM/SS in wow was one of the greatest pvp moments ive ever had, second only to the 300+ battle we started in SWG and were then told never to do again because it crashed the server. why do people insist that developers hand them a place to pvp outside of warzones? why dont you people get off your lazy asses, grab your buddies, grab the rest of your freaking faction for that matter, and go kill.... everything! stop demanding that you have everything handed to you like a freaking child and do something for yourselves!

so because YOU picked a class that couldnt tank this is somehow BWs fault and they should change their game to make up for your inability to make an informed decision?

ok, im tired and i gotta go to sleep. seeing as this thread has turned into an unstoppable force meeting an immovable object i dont expect any rational progress to be made by the time i get up.

its a new game that you demand work like your old games.

website also says advanced CLASS! an advance class is something you pick after character creation............have YOU played any MMOs????? we can argue semantics all day, neither of us is ever going to prove the other wrong.

same with you.

it also disagrees with you

problem with this idea is that people will use it. then when they dont like their new AC they will be right back here and we will be right back to square one.

yes it is! are we really gonna revert to this?