And getting put into a group with a deception assassin who qued as a tank cause he has a shield gen is great. Then you can just sit in the Que again waiting for the next idiot whose gonna try to faceroll with his character because you have no say in the people thrown into your group. Also loved those groups with 4/5 plate wearers who then have to fight over the same gear. Imo, they need to add a system more like the LFR in wow. A simple list of all the FPs and OPs so you can browse who is looking and choose who you want to go with. As for the standard pop issue, how do you know this is the cause of your misfortune? Maybe they don't need to add a cross server lfg if they simply allow you to see more clearly who wants to run stuff?

I hope they never add this stupid idea. Why even bother with ACs if you can just swap em like a spec? And what about the people who do lvl both ACs? tell em "too bad you wasted all that time because you wanted to play both?" The day they dumb this game down to the point you don't even have to lvl a class to play it at max is the day I cancel my sub and go play something that requires you put in effort to reap rewards.

No, I wouldn't say it ruins the class at pvp, it just makes it so your better of going madness or darkness to pvp since they don't rely on maul to do a big chunk of their damage.

i somewhat disagree, i dont think it has so much to do with the skill cap for assassins being too high. i think it has more to do with so many other ACs having a skill cap thats too low. Operatives do some much burst coming outta stealth they dont have to do much and somebodys dead, Mercs get to just stand there and spam tracer missile, Troopers just grav round people to death, ect... i think once a few of these class get some much needed tweaks that make it so they have to press more then one button over and over to be decent well see ourselves starting to shine a little brighter.

dark charge without a shield generator is pointless, and any deception assassin running around with a shield gen when we have already got a problem with our burst dps lacking is an idiot. he will be losing even more damage and wont be anywhere close to what a darkness spec'd assassin is in terms of tanking. all their gonna do is save a healer for a few seconds while the enemy burns then down and then finish of the healer since his dps is now dead.

i can use this same arguement against you. you say you have had it happen once or twice but its nowhere near as bad as some people claim, how do you know? do you sit next to them when they are trying to get maul off but cant? i'm glad your not experiencing this error but i assure you alot of us are. now if your done trolling a topic that has nothing to do with you since you've already stated you arent experiencing this issue, can you please stop trying to turn this thread into a flamathon?

the simplest solution isnt always the best, and running around with a nerf bat is not going to make for a happy customer. look at it from a production company point of view. you make 6 products (crafting skills) 5 of which are lacking, do you really think the smart thing to do is **** up the one you got right so it doesnt point out how bad the other 5 are? or do you fix up the other 5 so that you have 6 quality products?

doesnt mean your not being selfish.

*sigh* a sign of new content and its not even 30 day after launch and all it seems to do is give people 1 more thing to ***** about, why cant you *********** ever enjoy the game for what it is?!?!?!?!!?

MS>OS>COMP>GREED anything else and ill kick your greedy *** from the group, and yes i put in MS>OS even though there is no dual spec because you can always respec, so deal!!! /end2credits

calm down there cowboy! no reason to get your panties twisted, this is an MMO after all. just because full deception assassins lack an opener and arent as good in pvp as a full darkness or darkness hybrid doesnt mean that in a few months we wont be the new operatives everyones complaining about. there will always be a FotM class/spec and it will constantly change. until then you need to step away from the keyboard, breathe, get a sammich, and then patiently play the game while you wait for your turn in the line. p.s. im a full deception assassin as well and i feel your pain, but this post makes you look like a child.

no, i would actually like a look akin to that of darth revan on the cover of kotor. simple black robes with a black hood up and a cool mask underneath, or like the ones that come out of the ship in the video "deceived" under the media section.

yeah, like the people you fought in that warzone.

yeah i doubt well see many more "big bird" or "buffalo head" armors for the assassin anymore. i just hope BW doesnt go the wow route and make stealth classes with armor that turns you into a glowstick.

i think just straight up buffing spike would make it OP since tankasins would be able to use it all the time during a fight, but a talent deep in the deception tree that makes it so it at least hits as hard as a damn VS and/or makes the stun last longer then a global cooldown would be nice.

i support this 1000000000% not having an opener as a stealth class sucks. hell, i would settle for a talent in one of the trees (not darkness since it would probably be OP as hel if you could spam it too) that buffs its damage and/or stun. on kind of a side note, anyone else notice how assassins, mauraders, and their mirrors are the only ACs that dont have a talent in the first two tiers that raises our primary stat? every other AC has it setup so you can go up to 33 points into a tree and still pick up an extra 9% to their primary except these 4 ACs.

If your deception spec your not giving up anything really. In fact I feel you give up more trying to buff thrash unless your going for a hybrid build.

The 6% bonus also applies to VS. It's got a higher base damage and adds bonus damage to shock.

wondered how long it would take for this threat to get moved..... mods sure are behind these days.

hopefully this ability will get some love in the future one BW realises that alot of people arent even bothering to bind it.

this would be fine if we were actually talking about a "a few" abilties, but were not. were talking about over 1/2 of our abilities being mirrored from "a class from a different game" since you cant say rogue, minus an opener, which """I""" feel is a flaw and not a game mechanic since they obviously tried to give us one with spike.

tumult doesnt work on elites or players. its our most resticted ability. i personally took it off my bar since it only works on mobs that die so fast already i dont need to try and bind another ability just for them.

Dark Embrace, Fade, and Obsuscation... thats 3. Id probably even include Darkswell as well, bringing the total up to 4 talents that help stealth. and as for an alpha strike from stealth we do have spike.... it just sucks unless you spec darkness.

overall very nice guide, i will however point out one flaw.... you have maul on your rotation list twice 8P

your the one who needs to crawl back into the cess pool you came from, all i see everywhere i go on the forums is you spewing nothing but garbage about how an assassin is nothing like a rogue (even though 3/4 of a wow rogues abilties have been cut and pasted onto the assassin) and more like a DK (which only applies if your darkness using dark charge and a shield gen) and you contintue to point out that you have no idea *** your talking about.