Also people returning to the game and doesnt have decent gear yet. I'm one of them and my new Guild keep recruits people like me. Though my winning rate is over %50. Sometimes i lose 4-5 games in row then again i can win 4-5 games in row. And i'm at Republic side. I played a lot of MMORPG games and this is the only game i saw so balanced winning/losing rate. At all other games Bad/Ugly Side always beats Good/Handsome side like %80-90 to %10-20. Sad but true for other games.

Another Returning Player here. Played from launch to May or June. Bought game card for 2 months after that but couldnt play much because had some obligations in real life. And left the game at this point. Played some other MMORPG's lately because mainly my laptop is bad for Swtor and i want good FPS to feel the action. (Or i was thinking its bad.) After bored of other games i thought giving another chance to Swtor and bought a game card. For 1 week, i tried everything which is written in these forums and what i found from Internet, to get a good FPS, couldnt play game much really. And last night finally i managed to get a good FPS without stutters and lagging. And this FPS is even much much better from my first Swtor experience. It's like i'm playing a new game. I just cant believe how my laptop can run so well. With some adjust i can even reach 80-100FPS. With High Settings (Shaders very low and no shadows) and Low AA i can play with 55-80 FPS when questing. In Warzones it's 30-50 FPS (Which is i'm fine with, because i will decrease High Settings to get even better FPS when focusing PvP not questing) I'm thinking to stay even more after my 2 months finish. Actually i already bought another 2 months Game Card but not for me, i'm trying to convince my real life friend to play with me. We were playing some other MMO together for 4 months now and he said he tired of gaming for now.

Last night i topped table with 10 medals in Voidstar. Didn't die whole game, i was the top damage dealer, i was the only Immortal in the game yet i was the only one trying to plant bombs to doors and i planted all bombs and even i reached the Datacore in the end. Perfect playing at Voidstar. Really it's IMPOSSIBLE to do better than this performance. How many votes i did receive you think? Zero. Top Damage Dealer - Check Top Medals - Check Immortal - Check Deaths- Zero - Check Objectives- (Did all of them and was the only one after objectives)-Check I mean, really? Zero votes? I don't blame Bioware, but people really are strange.

I'm leveling a Sage atm, almost level 20. When playing WoW, i was bad when comes to play ranged classes in PvP, only exception was Mage and it was because of Blink ability. Let's face it, Force speed is basically is same with blink ability, a great gap opener. And sage have healing. So i feel like i'm playing a Mage with healing. And i'm quick to see, exact time when i need healing or my team mates needs healing, since i played Healer in PvP and PvE. Also i know when to stay for DPS or blink away (force speed away) and run for your life. It's easy to play for even a melee player like me. At other side my main is Scoundrel and my main in WoW was Rogue. Rogue in WoW have about 15-17 abilities are handy in PvP depends on your spec (not doing damage, but great abilities to have in PvP) when Scoundrel only have 6-7. Playing Scoundrel is very hard if u compare it to Rogue from WoW. I won't count all abilities of Rogue but i will tell of my story how i ran away from Horde players in Arathi Basin. I'm still talking about this great escape when we talk about games with my friends. I was in the middle of Arathi Basin Map, killed a guy, but vanish was on CD. And there were 3 horde players on me dps'ing. I shadowstepped farest one, it confused all 3 horde and used %70 speed buff coming with shadowstep for 3 seconds to start my escape. Then i used speed and passed bridge and head to North which was in Horde Control again. These 3 horde was after me, and defenders of North saw me also and start to come dps me. I used Shadow Cloak to pass 2 new one, and used gouge 3rd new one was already casting. And continue run and vanish cd finished, and boom i vanished. It's hard to tell all of it, but i think you get the idea. I was like waov! after this escape. It was fun, even more fun than killing enemy players. It was the moment Rogue became my Main. Scoundrel is harder than play Rogue from WoW. Far far harder. Sage is easier to play than even WoW's Mage. And WoW's Mage is easiest ranged class to play in PvP! Scoundrel needs some abilities badly to escape from combat (if your D.Act ability on Cd, and 2-3 people on you, you are dead for %100) and Scoundrel need abilities closing/opening gaps. In Short; Sage is perfect class when comes to key abilities when Scoundrel is broken class. Sorry to say, i'm Swtor player not going back To WoW and wont cancel my account, but saying it with hope some adjustment for the class. And no, i'm not talking about DPS nerf, DPS buff etc. I don't care about DPS. This patch will come some nerf, next patch some buffs etc. It always will. But key abilities of Scoundrel, well, really really must be checked by Bioware very closely again. P.S. WoW's Rogue is pure Dps class when Scoundrel have healing abilities. And WoW's Rogue healing himself easier than Scoundrel in combat. There is something wrong, just wrong, very very wrong in this also. P.S.2 My second character is Shadow. If i played 500 warzones with Scoundrel played about 100-150 wz with Shadow. (Played Wz Numbers for example). And i get only 1 Immortal (Managed after 7-8 BM gears) with Scoundrel when i get 7-8 Immortal with Shadow (Immortal Numbers are true) and did it with Centurion gears. When i reach same playing time with my Shadow, it will be about 30 immortals. And i got 7-8 Immortals as a noob Shadow. I'm still learning to play Shadow, i'm far better at knowing Scoundrel Class! In same playing time it will be 30 Immortals with Shadow, 1 Immortal with Scoundrel. Scoundrel really really needs some abilities, to survive, to gap opening/closing as i said.

I like Huttball and also think it's the best Wz/Bg in any MMORPG. And yeah Huttball even have more potential if BW wants to improve it; - New Arenas like OP mentioned. - Creating your teams and choosing your logos. - Some League or Cups like Weekend Cup. My idea for Weekend Cup; all teams must play at least 50 games to have a chance winning the cup. The team have the best winning rate wins the cup, if 2-3 teams have same winning rate best goal avarage or fastest finisher when comes to playing time wins the cup. There can be a board at the fleet to see the teams playing in the Weekend Cup. And it shows scores, winning rates, best scoring players etc and finally winner of the Weekend Cup. Winner of the Cup gets a Cup working like Party Bomb, Rhythm droid for a week only. It can be some Twileks ladies dancing around a cup after Baron Deathmark anounces the Winner of the Cup etc. And there can be also flares, music can be from Episode IV medals giving by Leia scene music etc. Too many potential really.

I'm having fun. Some examples; There are some guys from Sith side playing together and they are really good. They beat my pug teams at least 10-15 times. And i was thinking it's impossible to beat them. (1 of them is my number 1 enemy because some Ilum issues. ) But i managed to beat them twice with pugs recently. (I must admit i have 7-8 BM gears now and helped me play better against them, but revenge is revenge and it's sweet. ) And i didnt come to forums to cry for nerfs, for imbalance etc. Last Wednesday i joined a Civil War game. Someone left because he thought it's a sure lost. When i joined, i needed a win for daily asap so i would be able to my alt. When i saw the scoreboard, i thought it's impossible to win and i will lost my time here. But i thought how i hate people leaving games and i should try to win. Started with right Turret killed 2 guys defending it and started the riot. We need 3 turrets to win and we managed to get them, Sith caught by surprise and panicked and we won the game. Ops chat has gone wild. But nobody talked about me and nobody voted me. Actually i made the difference, whichever turret i went, i left Sith bodies on the floor behind me. Again i didn't come to forums and cried, i was trying to finish my daily, why i join games is already lost etc. And i didnt cry in the forums for people didnt vote me, i know i made the difference and its enough for me. I could tell you a lot of win stories but you get the point.

If PERSON A is better at PvP than PERSON B with same gears what happens when PERSON A has better gears than PERSON B? PERSON B does only laughable damage and dies too much faster, without feeling at least THE FIGHT. How many persons i saw in my Server can be called PERSON A. - About 10-15. How many persons i saw in my Server can be called PERSON B. - Hundreds. So if Bioware gives gears only to PERSON As, all PERSON Bs should stay at the game and should be easy preys. And why do u think PERSON Bs won't quit the game and accept to being easy preys if Gears goes to high ranking players? Give me 1 (ONE) reason for PERSON Bs to play the game if gear goes to high ranking players? ONE reason?

Welcome to MMORPG's. I think it's far better and fair giving new 50's some set for having FUN for BOTH sides than Rofl stomp them because big gear gaps. Gear progression at the moment is just about time you spent in the game and some people have families, work, exams etc. and can't play all day. Anyway, this discussed in these forums and in all other MMORPG games forums to the death. If you just noticed Tier 1, Tier 2, Tier 3 etc. sets for both PvE and PvP, i say welcome to MMORPG's again. What excites me about rated WZ's, you can join as solo. It's great news for Casual solo players. Though i have friends in Swtor enough to find Party most of the time, i know how i wished this feature in some another game.

Well i have a laptop and i have similar issues. And we bought a PC at my office. It's same when you compare graphic card, cpu and ram. But hell when i logged in Fleet with my main, i amazed, it felt like different game. In short, laptops sucks, too bad i'm old and must go another rooms to play in my home.

I'm giving you all another aspect to see the things about Premade vs. Pug and why it's bad. (Actually it deserves on it's own Topic to get attention but here you go.) I'm playing with my guild friends as 4 players pre-made time to time. It's not same 4 people, people change all the time. - We don't use Vent or Teamspeak when playing Wz's. (Using Ts in Ops) - We don't have any plan for Wz's just playing. So it seems fair right? No, actually it have unfair advantages. - All people we made 4 people group with have decent PvP gear, so we we are reducing the changes having a just new 50 player with bad gears in our team, when enemy team usually have 1-2. - I know my Guild mate will run to ball in Huttball when i'll get the doors in Voidstar or i'll sneak in for some turrets in Civil War as Smuggler. So i and my guild friends adjust our playstyle to help others in specific Wz. - Even i play as DPS Smuggler, when i see my Guild friend is in trouble i always healing him. I don't care medals, killing enemy etc when i see my guild friend in trouble. i just heal. It's same for their my guild friends. If i'm in trouble they heal me, guard me or stun the attacker etc. In pugs if u are in trouble, do you think a player 5 meters away from you, would quit his attacking and help you? Lol just lol. - And we always say incomings since we are playing the people from our Guild. It seems not a big thing, but i can't stress enough how many games i lost in my 4 years MMORPG adventure because of this. As i tried to explain even a very simple Guild Pre-Made far better than Pugs in most cases. Yeah these 4 simple reasons will cause you to lose again and again my dear Pugger. I understand you because i played as pugger for 4 years before Swtor.

Weird things happen in MMORPG games, i faced a lot of weird events in MMORPG games and didnt go official forums to complain about that, but seems like people love to open a thread about anything to complain in Swtor forums. For example; In WoW, I was keep killing horde (Rogue Class-Alone, all of kills in 1v1 fight, even 1v2 with some CC, not just killing blows) and all BG blamed me for playing for being star. Not only 1, all of them. Score was 1-2 in WSG, and i was the one get the flag in 1v2 situation, if it wasnt me score would be 0-2 or even 0-3, i was the only one doing real damage to the Horde. I felt very bad. So even being geared and playing your class as suppossed to be won't save you from people blame you, say to leave etc. You will face a lot of events, strange people etc. And if i wrote the events i faced at dungeons in WoW (events i faced, or between the people in my group) i couldnt play Swtor today, it would took all of my day. Just do it like me, i don't care anymore, i'm playing the game the way i liked.

For Swtor and WoW? If even Blizzard would pay me i wouldn't play WoW.

Well to be honest as big Star Wars and Bioware fan, this is my last MMORPG. I really don't care all others MMOROG's will coming out in the future, i'll stay here. If there isn't Swtor, i would quit genre. I'm really bored of the genre, all other games are same old thing. But Star Wars, Bioware's Story, and no Iron Age ('throw your stone to enemy' fights), keeps me here. Well, i think Swtor is the best and last game of MMORPG's. Note: If you are 15-16 years old it should seems strange for you, but i'm 39 and feel this way.

Paid and permament (unless you pay again) good idea imo. (Since it will come back to other players as new content, new features etc.) But dual class (dual spec ok) very very bad idea. Hey loook i'm tank, now i'm dps, ah now i'm healer. Very very bad idea.

%100 this.

%100 same with my idea. I can stand for an Iron Age Fantasy game if it's story is really good like Dragon Age (or a book/TV series like Game Of Thrones) and it can be finished in 2 weeks as a single player, but i can't stand MMORPG's with that setting anymore. Yes GW2 is also in that category like Rift, no elves just not enough, it's same old thing over and over again. Even Diablo is in that category, i'll play it for 1-2 weeks as a single player game though, that's the maximum time i can stand this type games. I played these games over 4 years; - WoW (3,5 years) - Rift (1 month) - Warhammer Online (6 months) - Guild Wars (Can stand it only 2 hours though, really a bad game) - Everquest 2 (1 month) - Age Of Conan (1 month) - Lotro (1 month) - And some other games not even worth Mentioning. Hell no, i won't back to these games. I'm happy with Swtor. If you check last 10 years of The World Of RPG/MMORPG Computer gaming, there are only 4 games are really different from others, when you consider their Lore, Setting and Story. 1- SWTOR - BIOWARE 2- DRAGON AGE - BIOWARE 3- MASS EFFECT - BIOWARE 4- KOTOR - BIOWARE All other RPG/MMORPG games, same old thing. And Fallout 3 is not in this list. Because Fallout 2 is better game than Fallout 3 and New Vegas combined.

I think they did a good job, i'm impressed. Maybe your cinema was bad or your opinion about movie effect your opinion about 3D. I saw many new movies have worst 3D than Episode 1. And Episode 1 almost 15 years old. With 15 years in mind, they made very good job.

I'm leveling a Shadow for changing my main in a PvP server. I'm still with Republic. My winning rate with this character in Wz's is like %75-80. For last 5-6 days it's %100. (With my 50, my winning rate was about %55-60) It's my best PvP series ever. I never saw worse players than these Empire players in any MMORPG really. Even people started to talk in chat how bad they are when playing Wz's. It's normal though i was a noob at MMORPG's 4 years ago but now i can play Tank, Ranged Dps, Melee Dps or Healer good enough still not pro though. No offense to these Empire players, they will be better in time. And not EVERYONE wants to play crowded side, there are people like me to enjoy playing Underdog side. It reminds me WoW. I was in a PvE server and after 1 years i started to like PvP more, but it was too late for changing server, i had friends in this server and had too many alts. Anyway, Horde was beating us bad in Wintergrasp and Tol Barad afterwards. They were attacking Stormwind, there were tones of duels in front of Ogrimmar (Had a low level Horde alt so i know) etc. They were PvP'ing because they were Mighty Horde. Everything seems perfect right? No. In Alliance side they were people like me also. We weren't much, but we were good. I remember after losing a Wintergrasp, me and my friend alone beat 5-6 Horde (2 of them were 4-5 levels low though) for 10-15 minutes without dying once. After 15 minutes, a Horde opened his alliance character and whispered "How we beat them bad, and he impressed." And thats just an example why playing Underdog is fun. After their Zerg is over, i'm still there to show who is better player. It's actually happening in Ilum also. After prime-time Republic is the king in Ilum in our Server with much equal numbers.

2 days in a MMORPG is long time? Waov. I played WoW 3.5 years. Warhammer 6 months. 2 days, just can't believe it, what a long time in a MMORPG game. I really didn't look things in your way, you gave me a new direction. Thanks.

Which MMORPG added too many contents in 1.5 months after release? They are trying to fix things every week (Sometimes 2 times in a week), yes sometimes they broke things, but they keep trying to make better. If you can't see how they try, go back to your ultra fun WoW please. And this game is not boring. Boring thing is people like you in this forum.

Irony is that, you all cried for Scoundrel nerf, now Scoundel's will strike back. All of them will play Healers with their tank friends. What did you expect, they won't damage and they will be easy kills? Now enough joking (every joke have some truth in it though, like when rated Wz's come people ask scoundrels to be healers for inviting them in their teams), lets check it closely. Fact 1: Healing has %30 debuff in PvP already, and healers are easy to kill if not protected by a tank. Fact 2: Almost all classes have Tank or Healer Tree. Bounty Hunter-Trooper= Can be Tank Or Healer. Jedi Consular-Sith Inquisitor: Can be Tank Or Healer. Jedi Knight-Sith Warrior: 1 Class can be tank. Smuggler-Agents: 1 Class can be healer. Out of 8 classes only 2 classes cant be tank or healer. So Class wise there isn't big disadvantage. Fact 3: People don't like playing Healers or Tanks in PvP. I remember Rated Battlegrounds in WoW, and how we waiting for healers in Stormwind for hours. (Not exaggerated, actually 2-3 hours). And quess what? Most of time, we even didn't able to play just damn single rated game! Which one is better? - Wait 3 hours and don't play any rated game? Or if you lucky just play 1-2 all night? - Or play tones of rated games with tanks and healers and get used to it, and find a way to beat them? Though i'm still not that optimist, good luck to find people to make 3 Tanks+3 Healers + 2 Dps team. It will be very hard job in my server at least. Maybe 2 Tanks+2 Healers+ 4 Dps will be much easier, even form this team will take about 1 hour at least. (My quess depends upon LF Healer and Tank spams in General Chat.)

Did you even read OP's post? You are talking about something else. For my alt, i'm doing this strategy. I'm leaving him at Fleet, so he can rest. Doing Daily PvP quest(s) and Daily Space Combat Missions, plus rest points, here you go, almost 1 free level everyday before i go back questing. (Though, i won't do this again, i'm in a hurry, i want to make him 50 asap and play with my friends in warzones. It's not an alt actually, i'm changing my main. With my 3rd alt, i will enjoy story (even world quests) again.) Also you can go after Datacrons, but it won't give you much experience and you can try to do daily PvE Flashpoint quests, but not sure if you can find a group or not. You can try to ask in General Channel when waiting for Warzone for PvP quest. 1 last thing. Fishing as endgame. Lol.

The way you put it made me feel you playing like Warzones 1vs10. It's 8vs8, and enemy team also can have new 50's like you. It's same in all MMORPG's. When you reach level cap, there is gear cap, like it or not. In some games gaps very very big. Warhammer Online for example and Rift from i heard. Wow also have some gap, bad thing is, if you are late in Arena Season, some of them already opened big gap, you need months to close this gap, since you can only get some arena points every week. And even worse, if you are not very good in PvP, you will face some good PvP'ers with gears you can't never get in that arena season. Yeah they are already better PvP'ers than you, they will beat you bad in similar gears and they have better gears. Fair, right? Lol. Welcome to World of Warcraft. I can give you some advices; - Play healer or tank spec if u can, it may help to survive longer, and it will increase your contribute to your team. - Find a guild (or ask your guild friends) and/or people to play together.

GW2 perfect? Lol. 10 skills on action bars. One of my real friend was telling me he heard GW2 will be awesome and was bla bla about it. I said it has 10 skills on action bars. He didn't believe me, he said i'm lying, lol. I showed 10 skills action bar feature on GW2 official site, he shocked. And he heard; - GW2 will have great graphics and will work fine at his old computer with great FPS. - GW2 will have better Raids than WoW. - GW2 won't have any bug. - GW2 will be free but they will add tones of content each month. (When i said they won't add much content after first 3-4 months, he claimed it.) After i showed 10 skills action bar at GW2 official site, he is not sure also about his other claims now.

You will write similar things to GW2 froums and TERA forums after played them 4-6 weeks. So just copy it somewhere on your computer, it will help.