Jowy Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 Hey guys, It's come to my attention in a recent tweet by Mr. Stephen Reid, that those who pre-ordered in December or maybe even November are atm. looking at getting to early access one day before the launch. Now, personally, it wouldn't make or break my world whether I'd get to play in early access at all. But what buggers me, is how they've told us that they are letting more people in than was planned, and that everyone would get atleast 5 days to play in early access, but then when the early access actually starts, they only let in a minimal amount of players (livestreams I've watched only show 5-20 people in a zone at a time!) and then throw this new tweet at our face, that those who got the pre-order in late will probably only get one day! It's pretty much a slap in the face. And that is my problem with it. It's insulting your customer base. These people who pre-ordered late paid just as much money as those who pre-ordered earlier. Yet, their welcome to the game is Stephen Reid slapping them in the face and laughing at them. Ha-ha-ha, should have pre-ordered earlier, suckers! While I partially acknowledge why you decided to do this, I question your methods. Is it really worth it to give everyone who pre-ordered late a very negative gaming experience right off the bat? First impressions are everything in MMO's. If you only get in 6 days later than others who pre-ordered, that's by a mile worse than having long queues for a couple of days. I understand your policy on server balancing and I am extremely happy you're taking it so seriously, but perhaps you need to take another look at the numbers and let more people in, earlier. Fact is that even the starting zones are empty. There is no denying that. Since there's really no reason to not let more people in, why not do it? If everyone were to get that five days for example, I bet the majority would come out extremely satisfied. Yet, if you push it further, it will create an outcry. People will get a very negative impression. That's just how it is, no matter how unjust it might sound. If anyone from BioWare ever reads this, I would like to request clarification on why are you not letting more people in even though the zones are mostly empty? If there was a good reason behind it, perhaps people would be more understanding of the situation. You've been great with informing your playerbase to this point, keep up the good work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raarup Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 (edited) Zones aint really empty. I still dont belive why people will whine about this, this has been known since the first day of preordering, that this is how its going to be - There is enough people around to group up with, they will also add more and more people each day. So dont you worry. For people who ordered november / december, sucks - you should have ordered earlier if you wanted in before. Game launches the 20th, be happy that its possible to play before that. Edited December 14, 2011 by Raarup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drakeborn Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 That isn't what his tweet said at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
run_hello Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 Was this the first slap in the face reference of the day? Nice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth_Alki Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 (edited) So without the extra 2 days, those of us that pre-ordered in December or late November probably would not have gotten any Early Access time? One would think with them pushing things back 2 days, we'd at LEAST get 2 days. Bummer that I will get to play for one day, then get to wait for 2-10 days to get my game in the mail. There is a chance that people will be playing for 17 days before I get to play for 2. WOOHOO! Edited December 14, 2011 by Darth_Alki Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draconax Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 When I go to McDonalds, I pay the same amount for my big mac as the guy 3 spaces in front of me in line, but he gets his burger first. *** McDonalds, y u no fair?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goku Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 Zones aint really empty. I still dont belive why people will whine about this, this has been known since the first day of preordering, that this is how its going to be - There is enough people around to group up with, they will also add more and more people each day. So dont you worry. For people who ordered november / december, sucks - you should have ordered earlier if you wanted in before. Game launches the 20th, be happy that its possible to play before that. Well if thats true might as well cancel the preorder and wait the extra day,buy it at the store on the 20th instead of waiting for best buy to send the CE on the 23 or later.But I need more facts before I cancel pre order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth_Alki Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 Zones aint really empty. I still dont belive why people will whine about this, this has been known since the first day of preordering, that this is how its going to be - There is enough people around to group up with, they will also add more and more people each day. So dont you worry. For people who ordered november / december, sucks - you should have ordered earlier if you wanted in before. Game launches the 20th, be happy that its possible to play before that. Some of us had issues with our pre-order codes and didn't get them entered until late November or early December. I ordered for his account back in early August and due to issues with codes, I get the shaft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenatic Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 When I go to McDonalds, I pay the same amount for my big mac as the guy 3 spaces in front of me in line, but he gets his burger first. *** McDonalds, y u no fair?! That is logic. How dare you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurinax Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 Hey guys, It's come to my attention in a recent tweet by Mr. Stephen Reid, that those who pre-ordered in December or maybe even November are atm. looking at getting to early access one day before the launch. Now, personally, it wouldn't make or break my world whether I'd get to play in early access at all. But what buggers me, is how they've told us that they are letting more people in than was planned, and that everyone would get atleast 5 days to play in early access, but then when the early access actually starts, they only let in a minimal amount of players (livestreams I've watched only show 5-20 people in a zone at a time!) and then throw this new tweet at our face, that those who got the pre-order in late will probably only get one day! It's pretty much a slap in the face. And that is my problem with it. It's insulting your customer base. These people who pre-ordered late paid just as much money as those who pre-ordered earlier. Yet, their welcome to the game is Stephen Reid slapping them in the face and laughing at them. Ha-ha-ha, should have pre-ordered earlier, suckers! While I partially acknowledge why you decided to do this, I question your methods. Is it really worth it to give everyone who pre-ordered late a very negative gaming experience right off the bat? First impressions are everything in MMO's. If you only get in 6 days later than others who pre-ordered, that's by a mile worse than having long queues for a couple of days. I understand your policy on server balancing and I am extremely happy you're taking it so seriously, but perhaps you need to take another look at the numbers and let more people in, earlier. Fact is that even the starting zones are empty. There is no denying that. Since there's really no reason to not let more people in, why not do it? If everyone were to get that five days for example, I bet the majority would come out extremely satisfied. Yet, if you push it further, it will create an outcry. People will get a very negative impression. That's just how it is, no matter how unjust it might sound. If anyone from BioWare ever reads this, I would like to request clarification on why are you not letting more people in even though the zones are mostly empty? If there was a good reason behind it, perhaps people would be more understanding of the situation. You've been great with informing your playerbase to this point, keep up the good work When was this tweet? Are you talking about the one where he says "You'll get at least 1 day" in response to a couple of morons? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turukano Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 Hey guys, It's come to my attention in a recent tweet by Mr. Stephen Reid, that those who pre-ordered in December or maybe even November are atm. looking at getting to early access one day before the launch. Now, personally, it wouldn't make or break my world whether I'd get to play in early access at all. But what buggers me, is how they've told us that they are letting more people in than was planned, and that everyone would get atleast 5 days to play in early access, but then when the early access actually starts, they only let in a minimal amount of players (livestreams I've watched only show 5-20 people in a zone at a time!) and then throw this new tweet at our face, that those who got the pre-order in late will probably only get one day! It's pretty much a slap in the face. And that is my problem with it. It's insulting your customer base. These people who pre-ordered late paid just as much money as those who pre-ordered earlier. Yet, their welcome to the game is Stephen Reid slapping them in the face and laughing at them. Ha-ha-ha, should have pre-ordered earlier, suckers! While I partially acknowledge why you decided to do this, I question your methods. Is it really worth it to give everyone who pre-ordered late a very negative gaming experience right off the bat? First impressions are everything in MMO's. If you only get in 6 days later than others who pre-ordered, that's by a mile worse than having long queues for a couple of days. I understand your policy on server balancing and I am extremely happy you're taking it so seriously, but perhaps you need to take another look at the numbers and let more people in, earlier. Fact is that even the starting zones are empty. There is no denying that. Since there's really no reason to not let more people in, why not do it? If everyone were to get that five days for example, I bet the majority would come out extremely satisfied. Yet, if you push it further, it will create an outcry. People will get a very negative impression. That's just how it is, no matter how unjust it might sound. If anyone from BioWare ever reads this, I would like to request clarification on why are you not letting more people in even though the zones are mostly empty? If there was a good reason behind it, perhaps people would be more understanding of the situation. You've been great with informing your playerbase to this point, keep up the good work You are wrong. It is "up to five days." English is a beautiful language. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvhen Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 I don't think it's fair that we have to pay 5euros extra for just one day ( if we get in the last day indeed ), while others who pay the same amount get 5 days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leiloni Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 No one was ever promised 5 days of early access. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mogishu Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 But what buggers me, is how they've told us that they are letting more people in than was planned, and that everyone would get atleast 5 days to play in early access, but then when the early access actually starts, they only let in a minimal amount of players I'm going to quote this one little section of your post OP and have to say sorry your wrong wrong wrong. Here's the deal man, read it and understand it, maybe if you had done this when you pre-ordered the game you would not be complaining right now. Bioware has clearly stated on their website under the pre-order FAQ that you would be granted access based of the date you pre-ordered. Hell even on the pre-order page it says you MAY get 5 days of early access. If you did not understand that when you pre-ordered then that is your fault, not Bioware's nor anybody else's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turukano Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 I don't think it's fair that we have to pay 5euros extra for just one day ( if we get in the last day indeed ), while others who pay the same amount get 5 days. Paying more does not mean you get to cut in line, genius. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeytt Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 When I go to McDonalds, I pay the same amount for my big mac as the guy 3 spaces in front of me in line, but he gets his burger first. *** McDonalds, y u no fair?!Are you waiting for 7 days blind?Because we do not even know how mnay are in line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noggafor Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 weeeell if I end up getting one day I will seriously consider playing that other panda game ^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sivlar Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 I'm going to go out on a limb here and guess that they will have everyone in by the weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mogishu Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 I don't think it's fair that we have to pay 5euros extra for just one day ( if we get in the last day indeed ), while others who pay the same amount get 5 days. You did not pay $5 extra dollars for early access. The game costs $59.99, you were charged $5 dollars on the day you pre-ordered and the remainder of the cost $54.99 will be charged to you on the 20th of December. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mytilus Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 this game is played 24/7. According to bioware it is also monitored during the early days 24/7. Why are they not giving early access in waves 24/7. Im sitting here waiting and 12 hours nobody new gets early access this is starting to suck big time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jowy Posted December 14, 2011 Author Share Posted December 14, 2011 (edited) It seems that many of you have missed the entire point of the thread. Just to get you guys up to speed; no, it is not unfair that the later you pre-ordered, the later you get in. There are a thousand and one threads you can discuss that in. The point was to discuss the effects of giving a negative impression to all those who pre-ordered late, and why are BioWare not letting in more people when those who are already playing are saying that the servers are empty. Edited December 14, 2011 by Jowy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baleur Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 (edited) When I go to McDonalds, I pay the same amount for my big mac as the guy 3 spaces in front of me in line, but he gets his burger first. *** McDonalds, y u no fair?! This isn't mc donalds. We're not standing in line, and THEN paying for the game the very second we get access to it. What we're doing, is paying for the burger 7 days in advance, and they keep pushing it back. In the end we get a 6 day old burger, one we paid for 6 days ago. All while the mc donalds restaurant in question is not even full. Logic works both ways. Edited December 14, 2011 by Baleur Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vember Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 (edited) When I go to McDonalds, I pay the same amount for my big mac as the guy 3 spaces in front of me in line, but he gets his burger first. *** McDonalds, y u no fair?! You're both getting your big mac at the time you pay for it. I fail to see how this analogy compares in any way to the current situation. A better analogy would have been that you paid for your big mac in july and I paid for mine in november, then in december Mcdonalds gives you a big mac and makes me stand outside staring at all the big macs in the rack getting cold and tells me that sometime in the next 1 to 6 days, I'll get the big mac I paid for, too. Edited December 14, 2011 by Vember Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvA-LaND Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 Paying more does not mean you get to cut in line, genius. Not true, I slip the Maître d' a $100 if I want to get in before everyone else in line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtamusX Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 When I go to McDonalds, I pay the same amount for my big mac as the guy 3 spaces in front of me in line, but he gets his burger first. *** McDonalds, y u no fair?! Atleast you can see how many people are ahead of you in line and know when you're next get your burger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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