Hey BW! How about looking at people that /stuck every Arena match

[StrikePrice]

They probably aren't stuck. 

[Jignutz]

Or worse, que as a stealther and never unstealth, wasting everyone's time.  I and many others reported a guy on SF named "Thyylxndr" for the past couple of days.

[TrixxieTriss]

Sure, but also consider why they might be stucking.

Some people will see a pre-made or certain people on the other team & automatically /stuck because they already think they know the outcome.

This used to happen in ranked as well, but usually just to WinTrade. 
And BioWare can’t get rid of the /stuck feature because their game is so buggy that legit players still get stuck all the time. 

If you want people to stop stucking, they can make it so you get nothing for a loss. But that would only work in ranked (which they got rid of). Do that in a casual game where they put premades vs pugs & it would probably kill the arena queue in a few weeks.

It’s a catch-22 situation that BioWare have caused because they a) got rid of ranked & b) put premades in the same queue as pug players. 

This was easily foreseen & people warned BioWare this is the sort of situation that would happen. As usual they didn’t listen to logic. 

The only logical fix if it gets out of hand is to remove the reasons why people /stuck. But that means making a solo only arena queue & possibly penalising people by removing rewards or their progress for losing. Essentially they’d be bringing back a version of the solo ranked queue. Which isn’t likely to happen. 

[VegaMist]

Arenas are part of this week's GS objectives. Is this what stuckers are trying to get? 

[StrikePrice]

On 5/2/2023 at 8:05 PM, TrixxieTriss said:

Sure, but also consider why they might be stucking.

Some people will see a pre-made or certain people on the other team & automatically /stuck because they already think they know the outcome.

This used to happen in ranked as well, but usually just to WinTrade. 
And BioWare can’t get rid of the /stuck feature because their game is so buggy that legit players still get stuck all the time. 

If you want people to stop stucking, they can make it so you get nothing for a loss. But that would only work in ranked (which they got rid of). Do that in a casual game where they put premades vs pugs & it would probably kill the arena queue in a few weeks.

It’s a catch-22 situation that BioWare have caused because they a) got rid of ranked & b) put premades in the same queue as pug players. 

This was easily foreseen & people warned BioWare this is the sort of situation that would happen. As usual they didn’t listen to logic. 

The only logical fix if it gets out of hand is to remove the reasons why people /stuck. But that means making a solo only arena queue & possibly penalising people by removing rewards or their progress for losing. Essentially they’d be bringing back a version of the solo ranked queue. Which isn’t likely to happen. 

It's not. Legitimate "stucking" will look very different than intentionally win trading. If you look at it from a data analysis perspective, wintrading stuck players will stick out like a sore thumb.

My suggestion to everyone is if the see an unbalanced match, leave the instance immediately. If everyone did this, it would force the instance to quit. 

[krackcommando]

I'll /stuck it whenever and wherever I want.

feel free to /suck it whenever you want. 😜

Edited May 8, 2023 by krackcommando

[TrixxieTriss]

30 minutes ago, StrikePrice said:

It's not. Legitimate "stucking" will look very different than intentionally win trading. If you look at it from a data analysis perspective, wintrading stuck players will stick out like a sore thumb.

My suggestion to everyone is if the see an unbalanced match, leave the instance immediately. If everyone did this, it would force the instance to quit. 

The problem with that is it gives you a deserter debuff for leaving.

[StrikePrice]

5 minutes ago, TrixxieTriss said:

The problem with that is it gives you a deserter debuff for leaving.

It's like 5 minutes. In my opinion, the only thing we can do that BW *might* listen to is take our ball and go home. Not an ideal solution for sure. I hypothesize that's what they actually want. They want to be able to say "not enough players are engaging in pvp, so we're shutting it down." That's their dream come true.