Aersyn Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 They should be gotten rid of. If not the costs should be nominal, not as significant percentage of purchase prices. eg. 400 for a mount is silly. Discourages my spending more than encourages it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveTheCynic Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 The only ones where it's really silly is minipets (which are pretty silly anyway, seeing as how the game forgets which one you have out whenever you log off), and only if you want to unlock them so one other character can use them. Think of it this way: most mounts cost a thousand plus for *one*. 60, 240, or even 400 for the ability to enable it on all your other characters on all the servers is peanuts. For armour and weapons it's even more pronounced, since you can claim as many copies as you like on each character that has them unlocked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phazonfreak Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 (edited) Apart from the exact details of this system, it seems to be quite profitable for BioWare to have it working this way in the game. Otherwise we wouldn't have a run on the two or three times a year we get a 50% discount on the unlocks. In other words: It might discourage you to spend money, but not the entirety of the community. Edited January 23, 2021 by Phazonfreak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkTergon Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 Apart from the exact details of this system, it seems to be quite profitable for BioWare to have it working this way in the game. Otherwise we wouldn't have a run on the two or three times a year we get a 50% discount on the unlocks. In other words: It might discourage you to spend money, but not the entirety of the community. It's the main reason I save my cc's for the unlock/collection sales lol. Although, if it's something new, and I really want it, I will unlock it before the sales. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elessara Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 The more characters you have that you want this mount on, the more cost effective it becomes. Remember, the account wide unlock doesn't just apply to the characters you currently have or the characters on the server you do the unlock. It applies to all of the characters you might ever create on all of the servers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreyestJedi Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 Yes, i agree! The cost is way too high! It is the reason I unsubscribed! I buy a nice armor for my toons and but now got to pay a ridiculous price to unlock it account-wide! It is horrible! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveTheCynic Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 Yes, i agree! The cost is way too high! It is the reason I unsubscribed! I buy a nice armor for my toons and but now got to pay a ridiculous price to unlock it account-wide! It is horrible! Ridiculous? You think that 400CCs (less than a third of the price of another copy) is a ridiculous price to have unlimited copies on *all* your characters, present and future, on all servers? (walks away, confused) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phazonfreak Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 I agree with Aersyn and Steve. So you agree and disagree at the same time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveTheCynic Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 Steve is cynic. He doesn't mean it this way. He would be happy, if he could get stuff for free. I'm sure. Once in a while, i have to remind him. In this context, no, I'm absolutely serious, and I meant absolutely what I said. 400 CCs to unlock everywhere for all characters you ever create both before (unless already deleted, duh) and after, on all servers, that amount is *peanuts*. Of course I'd be happy if it was free, but the cost amounts to basically nothing, so it might as well be free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erevan_Kindelar Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 (edited) Personally, I would LOVE to see all Cartel Market items automatically unlock account-wide when I buy them on one single toon. However, that is my desire to get stuff for free coming to the front. I also see that buying a CM armor for 1200CCs for use on one toon, and then paying an extra 400CCs to access that on all my toons is one hell of a lot cheaper than having to pay 1200CCs on each toon that I want it on. Bearing in mind that I can have up to 100 characters on each server (I am working on it...), paying an extra 400CCs for access to the armor for toons 2 to 100 is, frankly, a ludicrously cheap price for the option, and if I was the BW person in charge of the Cartel Market, I would be seriously looking at increasing the cost of the account-wide unlock for those types of things (pets excepted, they are just a waste of time), because I am sure the majority of the player base would pay more if they had to. Edited January 24, 2021 by Erevan_Kindelar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkTergon Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 (edited) You are certainly right. But what some of you not see is this. You all talk about this one, lone armor set. It's only 400. Right. But you fail to see, that i, and other people of course, have 97% of all cartel market items ever released. Armor Sets, mounts, weapons, companions, emotes, titles... that is a hell of a lot cartel coins. Even if i only unlock them during the discount. I could spend 20 years worth of sub-coins to unlock only half of what i have in collection. I don't think, servers are up that long. I've 97% of the collection tabs unlocked, 2194/2252 items. A lot of them are unlocked account wide. I don't mind the costs, considering how many outifts I've unlock over the 5 servers, mounts, etc. I've all the cartel titles unlock acc wide, and use them on all chars I create, as you get exp for them, and you char goes to level 3, nearly 4, just unlocking them. I've certain mounts that I unlock on all chars, and use. I've also all the emotes, with about 80% unlocked, and TBH if there was a unlock all option, instead of clicking on each one, they'd be unlocked on all chars too. As it is, I just unlock the ones I use the most, and others, when needed. I don't mind the cc's, if it's too much, I wait till the unlock sales, and get them then. If they remove the unlock options, they will then increase CC costs for items, which will probably adversely affect the amount of stuff I can/will buy Edited January 24, 2021 by DarkTergon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveTheCynic Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 see... like i said You should pay attention to the rest of what I said, rather than quoting me out of context. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chosonman Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 (edited) Might as well titles this request "EA stop taking my money"... you realize they are making a killing off Cartel Coins. Doing this would make them much less profitable. They used to have a once a year sale on unlocks. They haven't in a couple years (at least when I was subbed) My guess is they stopped having the sales because of real money. Edited January 25, 2021 by chosonman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreyestJedi Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 They should be gotten rid of. If not the costs should be nominal, not as significant percentage of purchase prices. eg. 400 for a mount is silly. Discourages my spending more than encourages it. Agreed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreyestJedi Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 I agree with Aersyn and Steve. Yes, it is ridiculous. Way to much. 400 coins. That are the coins you get for one month subscription. 15 €. I have to pay 15 € for something i already bought, just to use it. That is indeed ridiculous. Agreed! they need to stop this! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phazonfreak Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 (edited) Might as well titles this request "EA stop taking my money"... you realize they are making a killing off Cartel Coins. Doing this would make them much less profitable. They used to have a once a year sale on unlocks. They haven't in a couple years (at least when I was subbed) My guess is they stopped having the sales because of real money. Er, you seem to be completely out of the loop then. The last collections unlock sale only happened less than two months ago in late november/early december. And the one before that during the Star Wars May the 4th celebration for two consecutive weeks. They even started to advertise it here on the forums and in the news section beforehand: http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=986347 https://www.swtor.com/info/news/article/20201127 http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=978843 https://www.swtor.com/info/news/article/20200504#:~:text=Collection%20Unlock%20Sale,-Due%20to%20popular&text=Between%20Monday%2C%20May%204th%20(7,favorite%20Mount%20or%20Armor%20Set Edited January 25, 2021 by Phazonfreak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chosonman Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 Er, you seem to be completely out of the loop then. The last collections unlock sale only happened less than two months ago in late november/early december. And the one before that during the Star Wars May the 4th celebration for two consecutive weeks. They even started to advertise it here on the forums and in the news section beforehand: http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=986347 https://www.swtor.com/info/news/article/20201127 http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=978843 https://www.swtor.com/info/news/article/20200504#:~:text=Collection%20Unlock%20Sale,-Due%20to%20popular&text=Between%20Monday%2C%20May%204th%20(7,favorite%20Mount%20or%20Armor%20Set Yes I have! I just resubbed a month ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkTergon Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 Yes I have! I just resubbed a month ago. They still have them twice a year, I've unlocked most of my stuff during the sales. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreyestJedi Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 Hmmm.. some good points here. What if they did an unlock sale every quarter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xordevoreaux Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 OP: Cost? The cartel market, including the unlock, lowers the cost of a company maintaining a game in which people do not need to pay to play it. The cartel market, including the unlock, motivates a company to continuing to offer a game people are playing by potentially making a profit, for a company that last time I looked, was for-profit. Do I think some of the costs are ridiculous? Yes. But when I expressed shock in my guild's Discord that one of my guild mates had spent $80 on the cartel market, only to have another guild member whisper to me that they just spent $300 on the cartel market, I ask you to consider: while we here on the forums may disagree with paying so much, obviously there are those who feel otherwise, and spend big on the cartel market. Don't expect the pricing to change any time soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DragonSire Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 The prices are too high...even though they are a fraction of the full cost...which is kinda the bigger issue. Since the Cartel Market got introduced they updated it more than the actual game because of the profit in Micro Transactions. This is EA after all. Spend less, charge more is kinda their moto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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