Vaerah Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 Hello, I just wanted to add my voice to the vast choir of dissatisfied players. I quit at Makeb times, but after seeing such beautiful advertisment videos I decided to give SWTOR another try. I paid a 3 months sub, I was eligible for the 3 days play before expansion release. I want(ed) to play all my 6 characters. Besides the odd storyline, feeling very weird if you are not a force user, I am having an HELL getting geared up. I am talking about *1* character here. The grind is gruesome, I play 6h a day so I am not exactly "casual". I also do a fair amount of PvP, where the CXP should come in at top speed. However, playing since the beginning, all I have to show off so far, is a lowly 230 set pair of boots and that's it! Plus, I have painfully discovered my Sage and Sorceress are more or less nerfed to beyond oblivion so I need 2 sets: one to have fun (DPS) and one to even be remotely allowed into a proper ranked PvP team (healing). With this pace I am going to need 6 months+ a set per each of my 6 characters. This is INSANE! I am totally unable to play all my characters, I have to pick 1 and just grind gear like a Korean grinder on steroids! Add on top of it, the fact every companion now is its own kind of grind and it has to be repeated... What were you thinking at Bioware when you devised this gearing system? I cannot bear this torture any longer, you are driving me out of your game despite I really wanted to play at least 1 year! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merovejec Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 I know what you mean, threads like this keep appearing now and after 3 weeks people are starting to feel hopeless. Even for the people for whom this system was designed, that dont do OPerations or PVP must be having a hard time. This morning i didnt get a pop for PVP, GSF or Uprisings so i tried the "Daliy missions" and it was terrible, so little cxp and took so long. This system is indeed terrible. Some people got ahead with the early elite grind and then KP grind, but that is about it, now it pretty much stopped!! I do feel frustrated my self when i see the rank getting harded and harder, longer and longer to achieve and as you said its "1" toon!! The nerfs to the elite mobs started it all as they are eveywhere, operations, flashpoints, heroics and with 2 cxp for them it just makes no sence. But overall the system is simply garbage and makes people hate the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tessie Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 But look on the bright side, there's um, .... well, there's the...., um.... oh, never mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitchsts Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 But look on the bright side, there's um, .... well, there's the...., um.... oh, never mind. there's new stuff to buy in the cartel market, that's fun right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuckKing Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 The only thing I ever log in for anymore is to RP. 5.0 really killed this game for me and I have no motivation to participate in this whole Galactic Command System. If this game wasn't "Star Wars" I'd be outta here already. xD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthSpuds Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 I know what you mean, threads like this keep appearing now and after 3 weeks people are starting to feel hopeless. Even for the people for whom this system was designed, that dont do OPerations or PVP must be having a hard time. I don't do Ops or PvP and I have been very vocal that RNG Gearing is just FAIL ever since it was announced. In fact I am so disgusted at RNG that not only do I not do Ops and PvP, now I don't even do Login In. All The Best Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthSpuds Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 (edited) But look on the bright side, there's um, .... well, there's the...., um.... oh, never mind. ....there's something exciting they can't tell us about just yet? Honestly, the most exciting thing that could happen to this game right now is BWA being removed as the developers. All The Best Edited December 22, 2016 by DarthSpuds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nmyownworld Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 (edited) Even for the people for whom this system was designed, that dont do OPerations or PVP must be having a hard time. As a primarily solo player, I think the RNG system is garbage. Not so much for me. I crafted 228 gear, which is likely to carry me through much of what I do. I've never had BiS gear with a set bonus as a solo player, and never needed it. I think the gearing system is garbage because of how it affects other players. I see the SWTOR players as a mix of a variety of interests, and playstyles. I don't like it when some aspect of the game is twisted so badly, and so poorly impacts other players. It's a bad idea that never should have made it live. The last livestream mentioned upcoming changes, but I think it will take some time before the current mess is straightened out. This system is the latest in a string of things that adversely impact players. RPers no longer have their servers listed as being RP on the ingame server selection screen. PvP season rewards are best described by the great Lando Calrissian, "This deal's getting worse all the time." Raiders get strung along with vague not-promises promises. The Eternal Championship Speed-run fiasco. Even me, as a story driven solo player, getting squished into one-size-doesn't-fit-all KotFE and KotET. And that friggin' DvL banner is the bell to remind me of how things are during those rare moments when I can still lose myself ingame. Edited December 22, 2016 by Nmyownworld Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogMeat Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 Can I haz yer stuff? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
americanaussie Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 (edited) Hang in there. There are changes coming. What do you enjoy doing most in the game? Try looking at the gtn for 230 gear? And someone posted on YouTube there's a mods vendor with 45 mods for a fab price. Check it out and see if that's helpful. Dont focus on the gc or rng. Soon you'll be able to pvp and assemble gear so hopefully that will ease it a bit Edited December 22, 2016 by americanaussie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merovejec Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 I don't do Ops or PvP and I have been very vocal that RNG Gearing is just FAIL ever since it was announced. In fact I am so disgusted at RNG that not only do I not do Ops and PvP, now I don't even do Login In. All The Best Well as for gear, we can just get the credits and buy 240 stuff from gtn and we are done, no need to get to rank 300 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vember Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 Hello, I just wanted to add my voice to the vast choir of dissatisfied players. Haven't you done that already in multiple threads? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanNV Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 Hang in there. There are changes coming. There's nothing to hang in for. The "Changes" are a smoke screen. They are total BS because Ben and crown refuse to admit that there "chance" on something different was a total screw up. AS along as they won't admit they screwed the pooch it's not going to get better and there is no reason to give them any money, whatsoever. Strop paying and they'll either fix it or end up on unemployment. Either is preferable to the mess they've made of the game now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TUXs Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 Hello, I just wanted to add my voice to the vast choir of dissatisfied players. I quit at Makeb times, but after seeing such beautiful advertisment videos I decided to give SWTOR another try. I paid a 3 months sub, I was eligible for the 3 days play before expansion release. I want(ed) to play all my 6 characters. Besides the odd storyline, feeling very weird if you are not a force user, I am having an HELL getting geared up. I am talking about *1* character here. The grind is gruesome, I play 6h a day so I am not exactly "casual". I also do a fair amount of PvP, where the CXP should come in at top speed. However, playing since the beginning, all I have to show off so far, is a lowly 230 set pair of boots and that's it! Plus, I have painfully discovered my Sage and Sorceress are more or less nerfed to beyond oblivion so I need 2 sets: one to have fun (DPS) and one to even be remotely allowed into a proper ranked PvP team (healing). With this pace I am going to need 6 months+ a set per each of my 6 characters. This is INSANE! I am totally unable to play all my characters, I have to pick 1 and just grind gear like a Korean grinder on steroids! Add on top of it, the fact every companion now is its own kind of grind and it has to be repeated... What were you thinking at Bioware when you devised this gearing system? I cannot bear this torture any longer, you are driving me out of your game despite I really wanted to play at least 1 year! Good! I'm thrilled you're adding your voice. You're 100% correct and you're not alone. Help us get this changed!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VirtualMorrigan Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 Haven't you done that already in multiple threads? As have you, for the other side. So, your point is....? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadCuzBad Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 But look on the bright side, there's um, .... well, there's the...., um.... oh, never mind. Epic, lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vember Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 (edited) As have you, for the other side. So, your point is....? You're saying it's time for me to make my own special snowflake thread, so I can get a fanboy circle jerk going? Edited December 22, 2016 by Vember Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piepyr Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 ....there's something exciting they can't tell us about just yet? But they have told us! GC is EXCITING! Getting the same exact useless green gear eight crates in a row is EXCITING! Aren't you EXCITED? I know I am! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShardODarkness Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 But they have told us! GC is EXCITING! Getting the same exact useless green gear or nothing at all except trash eight crates in a row is EXCITING! Aren't you EXCITED? I know I am! fixed that for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piepyr Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 fixed that for you. Yup. The GC crates are utter junk. I don't even care about getting them, let alone opening them anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveTauriel Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 With deep regret i unsubbed and uninstalled today,its inconceivable for a story driven mmo to turn into this korean grind fest.I was having a big discussion with my guild mates about the "end game" and the consensus myself included said after you get to legendary and finish the expansions theres nothing really anything to do aside from some OPs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VirtualMorrigan Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 You're saying it's time for me to make my own special snowflake thread, so I can get a fanboy circle jerk going? Actually I was just trying to point out that you are accusing the OP of the same thing you are doing - adding their opinion to multiple threads. About the reason you gave for making your own thread, your private preferences and habits should remain private, so please keep them off this forum... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JennyFlynn Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 We're what, about 3 weeks into the expansion? I'm at GC Rank 4 on my one and only level 70. Haven't felt encouraged to really play since finishing out the 9 Chapters. I'm not really an end-game gear driven person either in this game, to be fair, but in the past I'd at least go knock out heroics, get my crystals and head for the vendor and I would have already accumulated a certain amount of crystals while leveling/playing the story which was nice. Now that I'm asked to grind myself into oblivion for a maybe, no thanks. I'll play my baby alts now and then to enjoy the classic story arcs and that's it. I may stay subbed for a while to see where it goes or I may disappear again. Classic content aside, I'm lacking the desire to play all that much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vember Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 Actually I was just trying to point out that you are accusing the OP of the same thing you are doing - adding their opinion to multiple threads. About the reason you gave for making your own thread, your private preferences and habits should remain private, so please keep them off this forum... No, his or her reason for posting a new thread was to add his or her own voice, which he or she has already done repeatedly. That was the point. Every one of these threads is a circle jerk affirmation for each one of the snowflakes that needs their own "hey look at me and validate my opinion" thread. I don't agree with everything being done with GC or CXP but the constant whine threads by the same crowd are getting old. It really isn't THAT bad, all these dramatic "I can't take it anymore" posts are ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TUXs Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 With deep regret i unsubbed and uninstalled today,its inconceivable for a story driven mmo to turn into this korean grind fest.I was having a big discussion with my guild mates about the "end game" and the consensus myself included said after you get to legendary and finish the expansions theres nothing really anything to do aside from some OPs. I'm sorry to hear this... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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