GrandLordMenace Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 Hey follks, The team is aware of issues relating to some Operation and Flashpoint bosses. We are currently looking to address these issues with Game Update 4.3 and will pass on any additional information as we have it. Thanks! -eric No. NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO. Seriously Bioware? Seriously? We're practically going to be level 70 when you fix all the bugs you've introduced... You've broken classes and now you don't want to fix this *********** stupid bug... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WheresMyWhisky Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 (edited) Wow I am glad to see you take the bugs you introduced to the raids recently so seriously, I for one am amazed at the speedy response we are receiving . Its almost like you care about the players and made me feel all warm and fuzzy. I don't see why we are all complaining its just their way of giving us fun new content since they cannot produce any I do not understand why you all do not see this, so don't look at the introduction of new bugs into old ops as a bad thing look at as a way of keeping old boring ops interesting. I mean come on guessing if you have aimed that telegraph correctly just makes things more interesting, its not annoying in any way at all. (I like watching tanks fly off the map I am evil like that) More seriously the response given is BS and makes me wonder if we will see a new op this year, the QA in patches of late has sucked and now you are not even trying to fix your new and wonderful bugs in a timely manner, and you expect us to pay for this ...... all I can say is you wont have many subs left if continue like this. Musco I think you need to learn to program so you can help out the single dev who seems to be still working on this game Edited February 17, 2016 by WheresMyWhisky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IkarusXY Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 (edited) My team fights tooth and nails to keep the group together and the fun in raiding happening. Its allready so hard to keep raiders active, finding new replacments got so very hard because they are leaving the game in masses. It is happening to us too, constantly. We just want to raid and have fun. Why do they need to stab us constantly? I don't get it. Edited February 17, 2016 by IkarusXY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayahdes Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 This is where I finally had enough, unsubbed, as did my entire guild. We were willing to stick with the game as long as we could still have fun raiding. Since that is not possible right now we are pretty much done. The tidbits of story line are just not enough to keep us engaged and interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrandLordMenace Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 This is where I finally had enough, unsubbed, as did my entire guild. We were willing to stick with the game as long as we could still have fun raiding. Since that is not possible right now we are pretty much done. The tidbits of story line are just not enough to keep us engaged and interested. This. Guilds that used to have 7-10 raid teams are now barely staying alive with 1-3, with tons of member overlap. You're losing a stupid amount of players, not just due to lack of old content, but the refusal to listen to basic logic, and literally exuding that you guys just don't care. It'd be great if you can say something like, "Hey we can't do new stuff right now, but we'll keep the current stuff maintained and listen to you guys where applicable, and we promise we'll get to you guys eventually and be diligent with bugs." Instead, you've said, "Not only do we not have new content for you, we DON'T WANT to make new content for you, and don't care whether you leave or not, because we're sitting on a pile of money and all of you can suck it. We don't care about any of you, and the content we make for you means absolutely nothing." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanaMarschz Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 Can you provide details on the reason for the delay? Is there a plan in place to insure future patches don't cause similar breaks? Any information is appreciated. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Percilator Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 Unsubbed and done. Seriously seems like this game is now being run by two guys in one of their mom's basements. Beyond ridiculous. A disgrace to the Star Wars name! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mathcorerus Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 I mean, its not a bug, its a feature! count this as higher tier mode! master and blaster with static conal! RAV NIM! but seriously, you gotta fix this asap asap AS *********** AP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
countdemons Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 Biofail and electronic assh0les Much fail Wildstar/ final fantasy devs say thanks for the extra subs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMCA Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 Biofail and electronic assh0les Much fail Wildstar/ final fantasy devs say thanks for the extra subs All 100 of them. *golfclap* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MillionsKNives Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 GG. This was the final excuse I needed to pull the plug on my sub. Wildstar/ final fantasy devs say thanks for the extra subs Indeed, my raid team already made accounts on Final Fantasy and have been leveling to get up to speed and start raiding there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cybrias Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 The Bioware business model makes absolutely no sense. They would rather lose subs than gain them???? I'm in 3 guilds with progressive raiding and there were 10 raid groups, with the key word "were".That is 80 people that has left since Bioware decided to suspend OPS development. How can you not want people to stay subbed????? Anyways enough ranting Bioware about lack of OPS lets rant about BREAKING ops when you didn't even touch them in your quite underwhelming release after a 4 month long content drought......seriously. And now we have to wait until April for a fix. You all need to be fired.......I cant believe I pay for this sh....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mharz Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 Hey follks, The team is aware of issues relating to some Operation and Flashpoint bosses. We are currently looking to address these issues with Game Update 4.3 and will pass on any additional information as we have it. Thanks! -eric To quote Master Yoda, "This is why you fail." Eric, please take back to the dev team that the raiding community is unhappy about the projected timeline to fix operations and flashpoints. The same community is unhappy about no new content for an extended period of time. Were it me, I would call an all stop to EVERYTHING SWTOR and fix the raids/flashpoints today. I mean all hands on deck, no one leaves the building until every single raid is corrected and tested and retested. The team is killing the game I love. Please stop. To quote Princess Amidala, "You're going down a path I can't follow." Good luck and Godspeed to the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiVaN_ Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 It is because of crap like this that My guild has begun making a move to becoming a Multi Game Guild. Thankfully the other games we have chosen are more fun and have fewer issues. So come on over to ESO (which is build with the Hero Engine just as SWTOR is) or check out WoW once more or dive into Blade and Soul with us. Don't lose friends that you made while playing SWTOR! Keep those friends with you as you check out other games. Life is much more fun that way. As for me and my guild, well we are sticking with SWTOR until the bitter end, but it looks as though that end will be very bitter indeed... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMCA Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 GG. This was the final excuse I needed to pull the plug on my sub. Indeed, my raid team already made accounts on Final Fantasy and have been leveling to get up to speed and start raiding there. HAHAHAHA You guys are not going to be able to clear A3 Savage. You will disband and be humbled. As much as you people think I'm a troll I cleared the raiding you guys are about to be shredded by. You have no chance. Nothing in this game will prepare you for the murderous rampage that Living Liquid is going to stomp you with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MillionsKNives Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 ESO (which is build with the Hero Engine just as SWTOR is) It's not. They used the Hero Engine for a brief time during development for prototyping and getting some stuff together while their own engine was being put together. The final game does not use the Hero Engine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PennyAnn Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 Not that it's ok for them to leave such a huge bug in, but my guildies and I were able to verify that even though the animations are completely wrong, internally the game has them facing the correct location. Example: 2nd hand and finger phase on Bronte in SM, the hands will both telegraph their cleave to the middle and slam in that direction, but only the tank, who's correctly standing on the outside will get knocked back and take damage. Same with Brontes in the add phase as she'll face almost 90 degrees away from where she's actually facing if you tank her in the right spot. So it's possible to ignore the animations if you know the fight well enough. Again, not an excuse for Bioware to wait months to fix it, but in the meantime may help anyone trying to run the glitched content. WE SHOULD NOT HAVE TO RUN GLITCHED CONTENT. We've had to do so for years, and now more raids are broken than working correctly. This is not right. This is not acceptable. I realize that you are just trying to help people who are trying their best to play this game despite Bioware, but it SHOULD NOT BE THIS WAY. That is all I wish so much that this was true. If that is all we ever heard from you again it would be too soon. But you don't ever shut up, so this is just another thing you've posted here that is totally wrong and false. Keep it up, you fit in really well around here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjyjf Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 To be honest I can't say I'm surprised by this. I mean in 4.0 they gave us zero new ops, and then in 4.1 they break most of the ops. I really feel as bioware broke them and then take forever to fix them so all the raid community will die off, and they will say hey no one plays ops anymore so we don't need to create any new ones. KotFE = the death of multiplayer content. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMCA Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 (edited) I wish so much that this was true. If that is all we ever heard from you again it would be too soon. But you don't ever shut up, so this is just another thing you've posted here that is totally wrong and false. Keep it up, you fit in really well around here. And I wish BW laughed at all the people who space barred to 50 at launch and said, "Well if you don't play this for the story we don't know what to tell you" and continue unleashing the writing powerhouse they had at launch that is finally starting to come back. They would have made more money, the game would have been more popular, and they wouldn't have wasted 2 years trying to steal World of Warcraft's girlfriend (raiders), who was never going to leave because she's a gold digger and WoW is rich. Oh and you forgot to say "please clap" at the end of your post. You know, Bush style. Edited February 17, 2016 by JMCA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PennyAnn Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 Hey follks, The team is aware of issues relating to some Operation and Flashpoint bosses. We are currently looking to address these issues with Game Update 4.3 and will pass on any additional information as we have it. Thanks! -eric Now I am going to pass on information to you as I have it, and have had it for years. The bug fixing delays have GOT TO STOP. It isn't just about how you are yet again completely screwing over the raiding community. Unfortunately, we're used to that. Doesn't make it right, but we are. We expect this sub-par treatment because you've given it to us in spades. We try to enjoy this game in spite of your treatment, and lots of the time we succeed. But you make it harder and harder all the time and it just doesn't make sense. Bugs are going to happen in programming. But this is supposed to be a AAA title from a reputable gaming company. Months to fix bugs is bad. Bugs that have been in the game since launch are just an embarrassment. One "fix" breaks something else. It's a comedy of errors. It doesn't matter what part of the game you look at right now, there are bugs in ALL OF IT. Some bugs are never fixed, most are never fixed in any way quickly... even if they are exploitable and devastate the economy of the game or are game breaking and make it impossible to play some part of the game: raid completion, story missions not advancing, you name it. How can we accept this? Furthermore, how can YOU? I'm just.... at a loss for words. Except to say this: 4.3 is not soon enough. Try again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PennyAnn Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 And I wish BW laughed at all the people who space barred to 50 at launch and said, "Well if you don't play this for the story we don't know what to tell you" and continue unleashing the writing powerhouse they had at launch that is finally starting to come back. They would have made more money, the game would have been more popular, and they wouldn't have wasted 2 years trying to steal World of Warcraft's girlfriend (raiders), who was never going to leave because she's a gold digger and WoW is rich. Oh and you forgot to say "please clap" at the end of your post. You know, Bush style. Called it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thmsleon Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 It's not. They used the Hero Engine for a brief time during development for prototyping and getting some stuff together while their own engine was being put together. The final game does not use the Hero Engine. Actually, when you load up ESO, it says it runs on the Hero Engine, FYI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thmsleon Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 HAHAHAHA You guys are not going to be able to clear A3 Savage. You will disband and be humbled. As much as you people think I'm a troll I cleared the raiding you guys are about to be shredded by. You have no chance. Nothing in this game will prepare you for the murderous rampage that Living Liquid is going to stomp you with. Screenshot or it never happened! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thmsleon Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 You have no idea what I'm capable of in game. I have a toaster of a PC and I guarantee you I outparse 90% of the community on Jugg I highly doubt that! Can you provide your star parse links or your toons name? Highly doubt that you will, just a common Bridge troll you are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrandLordMenace Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 You have no idea what I'm capable of in game. I have a toaster of a PC and I guarantee you I outparse 90% of the community on Jugg One of the best players in this game (I think he was in Zorz as Mikey? Could be wrong) played with one hand due to a medical condition preventing him from using his second hand. He's now raiding mythic in WoW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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