Tenetke Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 Hi all, I just wanted to post and try to encourage Bioware to not be greedy and do the right thing. I usually have no problems with paying a subscription fee for MMOs. I understand that they need the money to turn a profit and keep servers up. It's the price you pay to play with a massive amount of other players. The thing is this isn't an MMO. There is nothing massive about it. The worlds are barren waste lands devoid of other players... Yet we still have to sit in a Queue to explore those barren wastelands. Since this is basically a single player game and quazy lobby game I have a hard time understanding how they justify the subscription fee. COD multiplayer is more of an MMO than SWTOR yet they don't charge a subscription fee. If Bioware doesn't do the right thing and go F2P with periodic DLC every few months I'm afraid I and many others will not sub after our free time is used. I have a hard time justifying paying $15 a month for a single player game with a chat room. Bioware either needs to up the server loads and get rid of sharding or stop calling the game an MMO and go F2P. There's no way around it. I can only imagine this is a troll thread. Barren wasteland? Where? I would like to go there and get some resources. Even the most remote areas of taris have people running around in it. Please point me in the direction so that I don't have to play competitive resource gathering. The right thing? You state it as if it were some self evident truth that going f2p is the right thing. Look I'm sorry that WoW is going down the drain. I hope it doesn't, you guys love your game. You should get to keep playing it. Don't blame bioware though, blizz has already started on a new game, they pulled away their dev team. You can't blame bioware for that. So have fun over there, but keep the trolling to yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaffery Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 (edited) "wow is far superior this is crap" Despite fact that I hate WoW and Blizz lazy developers, actually it is. UI could be customised, frames could be moved. WoW has so much flexibility. Many peoples felt insulted buy throwing them back in to 2004, with similar lame WoW vanilla UI. It is nearly 2012 not 2004. Imagine buying a brand new car, it is in perfect condition. Everything works: engine, gearbox, lights, even stereo. But that car has a little drawback, no steering wheel. Would you buy it? Well, you can still enjoy ride it and steer it buy bouncing off from street lights and other cars. But it is not right way, isn't? What is UI for any game, it is a steering wheel, nothing else. Now on topic, before asking F2P, I think Bioware should show some good will and try release patch as soon as possible, with lot of fixes. As they already did buy granting 5 days early access mostly to everyone plus adding 2 days grace period. Form that part, well done Bioware. Edited December 26, 2011 by Chaffery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiggletphyre Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 (edited) Free to play will certainly brighten up this community! /sarcasm Edited December 26, 2011 by Wiggletphyre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onanonehand Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 Yeah, bioware is surely going to follow some no-nothing-about-this-game miss and poan idjit. If anyone sincerely dislikes the game why are they still here? This game isn't going f2p... there are more than enough subscribers like me that thoroughly enjoy this game as it is. There are other games out there... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sejia Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 Hey guys, We have removed several off topic, rude, and insulting posts from this thread. Please remember to keep your posts on topic, polite, and constructive to the discussion. We also ask that members use the flag feature to report a post that may violate the Rules of Conduct rather than respond to it. Thanks everyone! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimG Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 The thing is this isn't an MMO. Says you. Use all the semantics you want, this game isn't going to F2P for a long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phenyr Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 Rolling "alts" is, for intents and purposes, quitting. They'll just get that Class to 40, and make another one Once they've got all 8 Classes at 40, but don't feel like doing the mindless 40-50 grind, they will quit for good you have a serious problem flower. yet you made it to 50 in 2 days and now you complain that you are alone. Self ignore will help you meditate upon 'There is more to life than increasing its speed' If thats your opinion what you doing on these forums? Move along to a better mmo or your choice, how hard that can be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mutharex Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 Despite fact that I hate WoW and Blizz lazy developers, actually it is. UI could be customised, frames could be moved. WoW has so much flexibility. Many peoples felt insulted buy throwing them back in to 2004, with similar lame WoW vanilla UI. It is nearly 2012 not 2004. Imagine buying a brand new car, it is in perfect condition. Everything works: engine, gearbox, lights, even stereo. But that car has a little drawback, no steering wheel. Would you buy it? Well, you can still enjoy ride it and steer it buy bouncing off from street lights and other cars. But it is not right way, isn't? What is UI for any game, it is a steering wheel, nothing else. Now on topic, before asking F2P, I think Bioware should show some good will and try release patch as soon as possible, with lot of fixes. As they already did buy granting 5 days early access mostly to everyone plus adding 2 days grace period. Form that part, well done Bioware. your post is pointless and the analogy even worse: while of course a car without steering wheel won't work very well, most of those "features" you mention as fundamental for a modern MMO are either personal opinions and tastes or anyway coming in the future Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jieljak Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 (edited) Go Free To Play and hundreds of thousands of people will join only from my country. Are you kidding? Will OP pay all server expenses? Edit: And no, they won't pay any DLC money, they will just enjoy free to play parts of the game. Edited December 26, 2011 by Jieljak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadysketchy Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 Yeah, bioware is surely going to follow some no-nothing-about-this-game miss and poan idjit. If anyone sincerely dislikes the game why are they still here? This game isn't going f2p... there are more than enough subscribers like me that thoroughly enjoy this game as it is. There are other games out there... Every MMO that's come out since WoW has had a lot of subscribers at launch, and a ton of box sales None of them have been successful for more than a couple months though, and sadly, I don't see SWTOR being any different at this point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liquidpension Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 What a ridiculous proposition. There isn't other mmo on the market that will make me pay to play it before SWTOR. I think SWTOR deserves it's monthly fee and I will gladly pay to play it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mutharex Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 Every MMO that's come out since WoW has had a lot of subscribers at launch, and a ton of box sales None of them have been successful for more than a couple months though, and sadly, I don't see SWTOR being any different at this point The main difference is that those games were horribly broken, TOR is better than wow. I mean wow now not 7 years ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meldwyn Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 Rolling "alts" is, for intents and purposes, quitting. They'll just get that Class to 40, and make another one Once they've got all 8 Classes at 40, but don't feel like doing the mindless 40-50 grind, they will quit for good Your statements here are rather silly and not well thought out. First, how is rolling an alt quitting? I roll alts to enjoy a different character class or story content. I am not quitting the game, just enjoying more of it. Second, Why would I quit at level 40 because of the grind from 40-50? If I always quit at lvl 40 I have never seen the content from 40-50 and wouldn't know if it was a grind, boring, or just bad content to begin with... Unless I just compiled all of your 1Billion posts on the subject and just took your word for it. (that would be rather foolish on my part, me thinks) I fail to see the purpose in your posts, honestly. You are not trying to make the game better, you are just trashing the game for trashing sake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaffery Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 (edited) your post is pointless and the analogy even worse: while of course a car without steering wheel won't work very well, most of those "features" you mention as fundamental for a modern MMO are either personal opinions and tastes or anyway coming in the future Even saying thank you to Bioware is pointless? Now I'm lost and totally confused. How I could please fan boys? Witch future you talking about? ETA please, 1 year, 3 years, 5 years. /sarcasm off Edited December 26, 2011 by Chaffery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantuax Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 You should end your subscription just so we dont have to listen to your hyperbole on these boards. Also please provide your game critic cridentials that makes you more of and expert then evey one else. I have this vision in my head of the Drill instructor from Full Metal Jacket when he tells PVT Pyle to quit when they are on the obstical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mutharex Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 (edited) Even saying thank you to Bioware is pointless? Now I'm lost and totally confused. How I could please fan boys? /sarcasm off still, the rest of the post and analogy is pointless, no amount of pseudo-witticism will make it acceptable sorry bout the ETA, I think the devs said WHEN HELL FREEZES OVER not been able to get an estimate for that to happen, sorry Edited December 26, 2011 by mutharex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadysketchy Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 Even saying thank you to Bioware is pointless? Now I'm lost and totally confused. How I could please fan boys? Witch future you talking about? ETA please, 1 year, 3 years, 5 years. /sarcasm off Just get a job at BioWare, and they'll automatically like you, regardless of what you, or how you treat them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phenyr Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 Every MMO that's come out since WoW has had a lot of subscribers at launch, and a ton of box sales None of them have been successful for more than a couple months though, and sadly, I don't see SWTOR being any different at this point and again same question, what are you doing on these forums? if you dont like the game why bother so much. It makes you sad this game is not what you have expected? nightmares? insomnia? cant eat? your partner left you cos of the game? u made debts at bank cos of this game? if the game is not at your like just quit flower cant be that hard and dont forget to make 'adio letter' on forums before you go for good cos this is the 'fashion' now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darthjerro Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 Yep. all us level 50's can do. I my self am working on PvP gear to more people hit 50. in a week or two a lot more people well be 50 or close to it. I wont be 50 in a week and i dont intend to be. i might roll an alt just so i can hold of hitting level cap. Whats the rush. Dont get me wrong, i love to raid, but theres plenty of time for that, the games only been a little while, it can only get better. I dont know what it is you people expect ? So the longer i hold out, the more BW will put into the game. New ui and all the little tweaks... Again, whats the rush? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darthpickles Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 absolutely not this is a great game thus far and as time progresses it will get better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mutharex Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 Just get a job at BioWare, and they'll automatically like you, regardless of what you, or how you treat them Talking about jobs, shady. Are you full time with Blizzard or is it a freelance position?How is medical? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rzrknight Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 Funny i got a server who is most of the time full , and at most you got wait 2/3 mins to go in on peak hours , also everytime im playing usually there are 100+ players on that area with me and i see them all the time. You got into the wrong server and most likely you joined the republic , which we all know has less players. Dont blame BW if you dont think about the decisions you make , the game is awesome and can go paid for years yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiaa Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 If this game goes free to play you can tell Bioware Austin to kiss their jobs goodbye. Fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeelol Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 absolutely not this is a great game thus far and as time progresses it will get better Same thing was said bout rift/aion/warhammer etc etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cioran Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 (edited) The game just started. There aren't going to be a lot of 40s and 50s yet. Give it a month. Everyone will be a 50. I would like to see CoH (LOVED the issues) or STO style content updates, but who knows. Oh and join a guild if you're not in one, then you always have someone to do flashpoints with. Edited December 26, 2011 by cioran Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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