AlrikFassbauer Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 You know the ones i mean, that use...whatever that strike is called..chaolvence? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthOvertone Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 I have a Shadow and an Assassin. I rotate between specs on each. When I run Infiltration/Deception...I think I'm totally cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HMcFarla Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 Nice humble brag OP. A+, gold star. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neoforcer Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 he was talking about killing a deception sin with his merc. deceptin doesn't appear bad. the guy he wrote his dissertation about was bad. a good deception will clean any merc's clock before he can finish rolling dcds. i have to agree with foxmob here i do this to his merc all the time foxmob play's a merc very well yet he is at a disadvantage against a good deception sin. you cant kit when your cced to death. /WAVE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neoforcer Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 And to the OP i would smoke you in 4 GCDs even with you in full dark reaver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxmob Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 i have to agree with foxmob here i do this to his merc all the time foxmob play's a merc very well yet he is at a disadvantage against a good deception sin. you cant kit when your cced to death. /WAVE lol no. you and your army of stealth always running around with you though.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obviousenuendo Posted July 17, 2015 Author Share Posted July 17, 2015 how deception works. open with discharge and pray that it crits, use maul with duplicity proc, pray that that crits. use chavoloence twice pray that it hits for more than 3K each. then use ball lightning, pray that it crits AND gets up heave proc. your opponent is still alive because none of that happens. then the enemy (me) H2F and make them pay... on my sniper, or guardian if I wanted to. infiltration vs serenity is like street racing with the option of using a 2000 automatic cavalier, or a turbo charged bmw m3gtr.. a skilled driver can perform with both..but that same driver is always going to do better with one than the other.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iona_Var Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 (edited) how deception works. open with discharge and pray that it crits, use maul with duplicity proc, pray that that crits. use chavoloence twice pray that it hits for more than 3K each. then use ball lightning, pray that it crits AND gets up heave proc. your opponent is still alive because none of that happens. then the enemy (me) H2F and make them pay... on my sniper, or guardian if I wanted to. infiltration vs serenity is like street racing with the option of using a 2000 automatic cavalier, or a turbo charged bmw m3gtr.. a skilled driver can perform with both..but that same driver is always going to do better with one than the other.. Do NOT open from stealth with discharge. You pop recklessness in stealth, open with spike, discharge, stun, maul, and if they run away and aren't white barred, LOL slash. Or you can stealth out, mezz them and use CrD. Yes depending on if the rngods are smiling on you or not, you could have nothing crit(and that really needs to be fixed)or you can wreck your opponent. Plus with 3.3, dot spread will be essentially useless unless your opponents are stupid and all crowd around a node. Edited July 17, 2015 by Iona_Var Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neoforcer Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 You pop recklessness in stealth, open with spike, discharge, stun, maul, big no no here do not hit recklessness then spike you consume a stack of recklessness that way it spike recklessness then maul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raansu Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 big no no here do not hit recklessness then spike you consume a stack of recklessness that way it spike recklessness then maul Correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't recklessness only proc with force abilities. Far as I remember spike is energy/tech damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neoforcer Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 Correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't recklessness only proc with force abilities. Far as I remember spike is energy/tech damage. spike is force ability it get consumed on any yellow damage ability Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obviousenuendo Posted July 18, 2015 Author Share Posted July 18, 2015 I heard back whwn decp was the only viable thing. Opening with spike was stupid. Something about use reckless and dischargw first cuz spike is a waste. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neoforcer Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 (edited) I heard back whwn decp was the only viable thing. Opening with spike was stupid. Something about use reckless and dischargw first cuz spike is a waste. the opener is spike+reckless+maul+ball+dicharge+ball you have to hit one saber stick as a filler before the last ball lightning then to Voltaic Slashes then maul Edited July 18, 2015 by Neoforcer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterPepssi Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 Since they buffed spike dmg, using a reck charge on spike is highly recommended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neoforcer Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 Since they buffed spike dmg, using a reck charge on spike is highly recommended. that 4k damage is so op Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jinre_the_Jedi Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 the opener is spike+reckless+maul+ball+dicharge+ball you have to hit one saber stick as a filler before the last ball lightning then to Voltaic Slashes then maul If you ball lightning before using 3 stack discharge, you're wasting damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neoforcer Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 If you ball lightning before using 3 stack discharge, you're wasting damage. first ball consume 1 stack of recklessness with 3 stacks of static charge for discharge consume 1 stack recklessness then the second ball lightning consume 1 stack recklessness so were is the loss in damage. This is only opening from stealth not a sustained rotation. That is one hell of a opening combo Kre'a. Here a pic with procs so you can understand what i am saying http://i.imgur.com/eO75366.jpg Putting discharge before ball lighting when coming out of stealth does no change the damage of discharge in any way. because you are using 3 stacks of static charge in discharge with the above rotation this is only a opener on a 1v1 target and not a ideal rotation for sustain fights it is your lead off for sustained and wrecks healers or any target coming out of stealth entering the fight. It will also get the attention of any persons guarding healers since you just went through there hole health bar in a few sec Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayshames Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 Someone's touchy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keimox Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 first ball consume 1 stack of recklessness with 3 stacks of static charge for discharge consume 1 stack recklessness then the second ball lightning consume 1 stack recklessness so were is the loss in damage. This is only opening from stealth not a sustained rotation. That is one hell of a opening combo Kre'a. Here a pic with procs so you can understand what i am saying http://i.imgur.com/eO75366.jpg Putting discharge before ball lighting when coming out of stealth does no change the damage of discharge in any way. because you are using 3 stacks of static charge in discharge with the above rotation this is only a opener on a 1v1 target and not a ideal rotation for sustain fights it is your lead off for sustained and wrecks healers or any target coming out of stealth entering the fight. It will also get the attention of any persons guarding healers since you just went through there hole health bar in a few sec Thou there is a bug in Twin surge that causes ball lightning consume 2 stacks of recklessness if twin surge procs. Shadows don't suffer from this bug. So opening with ball might leave your burst "short". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaraExas Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 first ball consume 1 stack of recklessness with 3 stacks of static charge for discharge consume 1 stack recklessness then the second ball lightning consume 1 stack recklessness so were is the loss in damage. This is only opening from stealth not a sustained rotation. That is one hell of a opening combo Kre'a. Here a pic with procs so you can understand what i am saying http://i.imgur.com/eO75366.jpg Putting discharge before ball lighting when coming out of stealth does no change the damage of discharge in any way. because you are using 3 stacks of static charge in discharge with the above rotation this is only a opener on a 1v1 target and not a ideal rotation for sustain fights it is your lead off for sustained and wrecks healers or any target coming out of stealth entering the fight. It will also get the attention of any persons guarding healers since you just went through there hole health bar in a few sec your fancy misunderstanding of the spec makes me laugh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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