Raansu Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 Why pick a commando if you're just going to use a blaster rifle.....This boggles my mind. Its not like an "oh my bad" kind of thing at low levels. I've run into commandos well into their late level 40s and mid 50's still using rifles and its becoming common...... Please stop, you're severely gimping yourself. If you wanted to use a rifle you should have rolled vanguard. /random rant with a mix of confusion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gyronamics Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 (edited) Cannons are strictly a ranged damage increase over rifles plus some attack unlocks. As such you can be a healer with no loss of healing power. It is impossible to play Assault without a cannon not least because Charged Bolts are disabled without a cannon. You can play Gunnery without a cannon but the ranged damage loss is significant. Edited July 14, 2015 by Gyronamics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcherOrant Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 Heals + Rifle = negligible loss of heals. Since all the rifles in the game look so much better...that's why. DPS Commandos that are using rifles are just cray-cray. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoom_VI Posted July 19, 2015 Share Posted July 19, 2015 You wot m8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gyronamics Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 (edited) So in a stale game filled with tanks and healers the gunnery commando was the best out of the 4 actual dps Doesn't get around losing IIRC 7% on all white damage attacks and disabling Hail of Bolts which I might add is nevertheless keybound on that rifle using commando. Roleplay is roleplay but there is no benefit to it. You're still the character doing a lot of casting and standing about and most obvious of all is the writing next to your name which says commando. Edited July 21, 2015 by Gyronamics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cavadus Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 Assault canons look horribad and there's no vanguard tree that really utilizes the rifle. So if you want a rifle and to actually look like you're using it one is basically stuck with a gunnery commando. It would be nice if we could just equip a weapon in the outfit designer to override the appearance but until that happens I'll continue using a rifle with my gunnery commando. Min/maxing DPS means very little to me and my guild. I'm here to live out a Stormtrooper fetish, not making other people happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordCamTheGreat Posted July 25, 2015 Share Posted July 25, 2015 For a time my vanguard was levelling up without a rifle, instead using legacy punches and it worked surprisingly well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vradic Posted July 25, 2015 Share Posted July 25, 2015 I keep an updated rifle on my mando for knocking out dailys sometimes. Brings back the aspect of npcs being challenging, and let's me play an actual storntrooper. Wouldn't even consider using it for PvP or anything group related however. Still, it's fun to dream. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaedusz Posted July 25, 2015 Share Posted July 25, 2015 (edited) Why pick a commando if you're just going to use a blaster rifle.....This boggles my mind. Its not like an "oh my bad" kind of thing at low levels. I've run into commandos well into their late level 40s and mid 50's still using rifles and its becoming common...... Please stop, you're severely gimping yourself. If you wanted to use a rifle you should have rolled vanguard. /random rant with a mix of confusion. How much credits you wanna bet that a ton of troopers will pick the blaster rifle ,even in their sleep, if they removed the damage reduction. I for one will finally level a Commando. Edited July 25, 2015 by Kaedusz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForceWelder Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 (edited) How much credits you wanna bet that a ton of troopers will pick the blaster rifle ,even in their sleep, if they removed the damage reduction. I for one will finally level a Commando. Level a commando ... yes. Actually take it into PVP ... probably not. Gunnery is fine in 8 man, but get in the arena and you might as well just stay in the spawn area. You won't last long rifle or cannon. And I think that is the OP's point. It is fine to use the rifle when you are in solo content, but when playing with others you should be doing what you need to help the team and not make matters worse. So if that is your only draw back, you might as well level one now while the XP is good. Because it is not like you will be doing much with it PVP wise regardless. Edited July 28, 2015 by ForceWelder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeyboardNinja Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 Using a rifle in regs is a pretty good trick to avoid some focus fire, especially if you're not using the green beam of murder-me-please. There's no excuse for it in high-end PvE though. I'm one of those who likes the look of the assault rifle a lot better than the cannon, but I need Charged Bolts and I need a max-damage Full Auto and High Impact Bolt. Off-DPS is a very important component of a PvE healer's role, and severely gimping that component just for aesthetic reasons is unjustifiable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoom_VI Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 (edited) Using a rifle in regs is a pretty good trick to avoid some focus fire, especially if you're not using the green beam of murder-me-please. I dunno man, Being a Vanguard might invite even more focus fire. And I'm hugely surprised by the number of people taking my other post seriously. :< Edited July 30, 2015 by Zoom_VI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Origami Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Why pick a commando if you're just going to use a blaster rifle.....This boggles my mind. Its not like an "oh my bad" kind of thing at low levels. I've run into commandos well into their late level 40s and mid 50's still using rifles and its becoming common...... Please stop, you're severely gimping yourself. If you wanted to use a rifle you should have rolled vanguard. /random rant with a mix of confusion. No matter the game, there are always people that for some reason get upset with other people and how they play the game. Whether I use a rife or not, it does not and should not matter to you at all. Hell, if the game let me, I would use a sling shot just to annoy people that think it's their job to tell me how to play my game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raansu Posted August 4, 2015 Author Share Posted August 4, 2015 No matter the game, there are always people that for some reason get upset with other people and how they play the game. Whether I use a rife or not, it does not and should not matter to you at all. Hell, if the game let me, I would use a sling shot just to annoy people that think it's their job to tell me how to play my game. Except it does matter, especially in end game. I would kick you out of a raid group immediately if I saw that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoNSoNicXJR Posted August 8, 2015 Share Posted August 8, 2015 They should put in a weapon appearance tab for things like this so everyone can be happy. Or unlock the couple of moves that are restricted to assault cannon use only, especially since commando specializes and wields both rifle and assault cannon weaponry. Also, reason you might be seeing commandos doing this is cause vanguard lost full auto for no good reason i tried using a rifle on my level 43 commando and its not as gimp as some people may think it looks good and it makes me hate they removed the cool full auto move from vanguard. But maybe the devs will get around to improving the game later on after the expansion as opposed to nerfing classes instead of making them better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gyronamics Posted August 8, 2015 Share Posted August 8, 2015 No, using a rifle is exactly as gimped as was said. Damage loss on white damage attacks and disabling Hail of Bolts and Charged Bolts (aka can't play Assault) For whatever you were doing it didn't matter is all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samhinch Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 What abilities are disabled if using a rifle? And how do those abilities in pve solo content? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth-Rammstein Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 Would be nice if they let you transmog a rifle over the canon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sobekeus Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 My GT-40 Plasma Core Assault Cannon looks better than any rifle... except maybe it's own rifle cousin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaos_KidSWTOR Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 What abilities are disabled if using a rifle? And how do those abilities in pve solo content? You lose the ability to use Hail of Bolts, Mag Bolt (I think, I know Mercs need 2 Pistols to use Mag Shot), and Charged Bolts. So, you lose the ability to play Assault Specification. Also, you lose about 30% of your Ranged Damage, because Blaster Rifles deal less ranged damage than Assault Cannons and Sniper Rifles (I think they both deal the same damage coefficent with a similar barrel) So, just don't be stupid and use a bloody Assault Cannon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gyronamics Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 He's a time waster as you can see from previous comments. Deliberately asking answered questions because he wants the attention of a reply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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