Dev Post EricMusco Posted June 23, 2015 Dev Post Share Posted June 23, 2015 (edited) Hey folks, In today's patch, we placed Temple Chair (Basic) onto the Esstran Exports vendor for one credit. After bringing the servers live today we noticed that currently, you can sell the Chair back to the vendor for 100 credits. Obviously, this is not intended. As stated before, when these issues arise we want to make sure we get out in front of it as quickly as possible and are open with you about what is being done. For the time being, please do not buy and sell the Temple Chair (Basic) in this manner. This behavior is considered an exploit. We will be addressing this issue as soon as possible. Once fixed, we will investigate and then take appropriate action for use of this exploit. Thanks everyone. I will pass on update as I have them. -eric Edited June 23, 2015 by EricMusco Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infernixx Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 I'm guessing the chair is a 1 credit purchase. Yeah, people are gonna exploit the hell out of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerba Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 (edited) Thanks for confirming you received the private reports about it. I wonder why BioWare is suddenly so open about exploits. I guess they feel safe enough about their logs that they can still ban everyone who abused the exploit later on? If so, then I applaud the decision to not take down the servers during European raid time and hope that you really are able to ban every single exploiter, even when they laundered the money via alt accounts. And I trust that the reason why you wait with the maintenance is because of EU primetime and not because you don't have the resources to do an emergency maintenance right now. Edited June 23, 2015 by Jerba Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sindariel Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 (edited) Eric, are you drunk by any chance? Your post is full of typos. Edit: You're fast with fixing. Edited June 23, 2015 by Sindariel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eanelinea Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 Thanks for letting us know, Eric. I'm just glad I didn't do what I normally do when I'm not paying attention. Buy something then sell it accidentally, only to have to rebuy it from the buy back tab. I HATE when I do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dev Post EricMusco Posted June 23, 2015 Author Dev Post Share Posted June 23, 2015 Eric, are you drunk by any chance? Your post is full of typos. I definitely had some extra words there! Fixed. -eric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OddballEasyEight Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 Well, I was planning on buying 50 of the chairs. I hope you can differentiate between those who just buy them and use them and those who buy them and sell them back... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JediRelentless Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 So why do you allow players to sell this item on the GTN? We shouldn't exploit the vendor but you encourage players to exploit one another? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azudelphi Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 (edited) Well, I was planning on buying 50 of the chairs. I hope you can differentiate between those who just buy them and use them and those who buy them and sell them back... I want to say that if the purchased amount is low like the 50 you mentioned it won't flag anything for exploit. Given that you'd stand to make at most about 5k credits, which is hardly gamebreaking. I'd imagine that the players that will get flagged for using an exploit are the ones that are seen buying hundreds upon hundreds. Edited June 23, 2015 by azudelphi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TUXs Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 Great post Eric!!! Superb communication on this! Thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbsolutGrndZero Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 Wow, yeah thanks for the honesty about the exploit and such. I probably WILL buy 50 of them but I will use them too That's safe, right? I like to have the max amount of stuff when I can hehe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tachenko_Yuri Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 Well, I was planning on buying 50 of the chairs. I hope you can differentiate between those who just buy them and use them and those who buy them and sell them back... should be good, probably gonna notice who's resold a whole heap of them and who binded them to their dec roster... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OddballEasyEight Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 I want to say that if the purchased amount is low like the 50 you mentioned it won't flag anything for exploit. Given that you'd stand to make at most about 5k credits, which is hardly gamebreaking. I'd imagine that the players that will get flagged for using an exploit are the ones that are seen buying hundreds upon hundreds. True Not thinking straight, pretty tired Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAWUSS Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 Then wouldn't the solution be to retroactively apply the correct (credit) change? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guitarguyguitarg Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 My launcher is displaying a red message, "Participation in exploits may result in administrative action against your account." I see that this issue arose today, 6/23. I know I did not buy or sell this item because I have not played at all today (6/23) until I tried to log in just now. Why is it displaying this message? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CmdrShpd Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 My launcher is displaying a red message, "Participation in exploits may result in administrative action against your account." I see that this issue arose today, 6/23. I know I did not buy or sell this item because I have not played at all today (6/23) until I tried to log in just now. Why is it displaying this message? Uh...presumably to warn all players not to use this exploit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azudelphi Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 Uh...presumably to warn all players not to use this exploit? Especially if it contains a link to this thread to show Eric's post and Bioware's stance on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holocron Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 So now is the time to list everything I have for sale, while there is a massive pool of disposable income floating around? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callaron Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 Eric, are you drunk by any chance? Your post is full of typos. That explains the long server downtime. They had to get the community manager (more or less) sober again before resuming services. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infernixx Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 Oh, the launcher message is 'brilliance.' It steals away that veil of ignorance that some exploiters hide behind. "oh, I didn't know it was exploitive to buy five hundred thousand chairs and sell them all back for 50 million credits!' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthuriuan Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 My launcher is displaying a red message, "Participation in exploits may result in administrative action against your account." I see that this issue arose today, 6/23. I know I did not buy or sell this item because I have not played at all today (6/23) until I tried to log in just now. Why is it displaying this message? Exactly as stated. They know about the exploit and are giving everyone who logs in ample warning not to participate in it. Nothing directed to you personally, it's for ALL players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guitarguyguitarg Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 Exactly as stated. They know about the exploit and are giving everyone who logs in ample warning not to participate in it. Nothing directed to you personally, it's for ALL players. Ah, thank you! Got scared for a minute. Thanks a bunch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
generalstonestar Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 So yeah you kick me off the server to tell me this? Yeah 100 credits oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooh so fancy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CmdrShpd Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 So yeah you kick me off the server to tell me this? Yeah 100 credits oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooh so fancy. What are you talking about? This exploit could potentially be used to generate an infinite (or whatever the max amount is) number of credits. Not addressing it would destroy the game's economy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holocron Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 (edited) You know, an evil gold farmer would spam the crap out of the buy/sell buttons on the chairs, then spam all the fleets offering a steep steep discount on credits. Make gobs of cash from buyers all the way to the whenever the devs hotfix it. Even if Bio banned all those scammer accounts later, the farmers would still have the players money. I hope they patch it soon. Edited June 23, 2015 by Holocron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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