Game Update 3.0 Class Changes: Shadow + Assassin

[TaitWatson]

It's Inquisitor and Consular week for Disciplines blogs! First up are Assassins and Shadows.

 

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Edited November 11, 2014 by TaitWatson

[Foambreaker]

1st in an epic whine!

[kvandertulip]

So in pvp how is a spec that deals mostly weapon damage supposed to counter an assassin that has Defection up?

[azudelphi]

So in pvp how is a spec that deals mostly weapon damage supposed to counter an assassin that has Defection up?

 

Wait for deflection to go away? Knockbacks?

[Kayriel]

Interesting changes, i want to see what the stream brings as well , but i am confused about the nerf that Exploitive Strikes got. It gives 4% less melee crit chance now. Could you guys please enlighten me on this one ? I would understand the change if the entire skill would be modified , so that the skill gives 5% crit change to both force and melee attacks , just like the operatives get with Calculated Frenzy , but this like this... its just really puzzling.

[DarkSaberMaster]

Oh my.....

[Master-Nala]

Was hoping for more meaningful changes for tanks, but looks good as it is.

[TheWookiee]

Couldn't you have come up with a better name than "Ball Lightning"? It sounds like a slang term for an STD.

[kvandertulip]

Wait for deflection to go away? Knockbacks?

 

Nevermind. I assumed it meant total cc immunity.

[NogueiraA]

Nerf to melee critical chance... You know Deception is all about crit right?

 

I don't understand an ability like Discharge with 3 stacks hitting less than a single Shock.

[Griad]

Are the dots that spread through deathfield also uncleanseable..??

 

Why does deception still feel lacking from this compared to madness to me it looks like madness will have both insane aoe(compared to almost none) and stil have more overall damage. Burst might not be as insane as deception but i can easy pull agro 5-6 GCD into the pull so burst on madness is not the same but still very high.

Edited November 11, 2014 by Griad

[sandisrd]

Thank you very much, looking forward to my new assassin abilities!...

[XORDYH]

So the four Deception/Infiltration active abilities are:

 

1. Voltaic Slash/Clairvoyant Strike
   
2. Low Slash
   
3. Ball Lightning/Psychokinetic Blast
   
4. ???
   

 

Where's the fourth ability? Surging Charge/Shadow Technique is not an active ability, it's a passive stance, so it can't be that, right? RIGHT? That wouldn't be cool, especially since Powertechs/Vanguards get all of their stances baseline.

[Altheran]

So the four Deception/Infiltration active abilities are:

 

1. Voltaic Slash/Clairvoyant Strike
   
2. Low Slash
   
3. Ball Lightning/Psychokinetic Blast
   
4. ???
   

 

Where's the fourth ability? Surging Charge/Shadow Technique is not an active ability, it's a passive stance, so it can't be that, right? RIGHT? That wouldn't be cool, especially since Powertechs/Vanguards get all of their stances baseline.

 

It is the stance... To my displeasure.

[Halorinn]

I wonder if Serenity Shadows can tank.

[Levram]

Where's the fourth ability?

 

Are you forgetting Maul?!

[SirMannii]

So the four Deception/Infiltration active abilities are:

 

1. Voltaic Slash/Clairvoyant Strike
   
2. Low Slash
   
3. Ball Lightning/Psychokinetic Blast
   
4. ???
   

 

Where's the fourth ability? Surging Charge/Shadow Technique is not an active ability, it's a passive stance, so it can't be that, right? RIGHT? That wouldn't be cool, especially since Powertechs/Vanguards get all of their stances baseline.

 

What's your point?

[Altheran]

Are you forgetting Maul?!

 

Baseline. Not counting as one of the four learned within the discipline.

[SirMannii]

Baseline. Not counting as one of the four learned within the discipline.

 

So every spec should always have 4 active abilities? I'm confused about why people are mad?

[Zunayson]

one thing I find funny is that deception already has voltaic slash, a replacement for thrash. Now they get a replacement for shock.

 

so basically, you get one more keybind (low slash) to use.

[Groncho]

This game really needs more uncleanseable dots

 

 

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[Aberd]

Still waiting for the tank specs to get medium armor. Also no mention of changes to Dark Protection (not sure shadow equivalent), which needs to be tweaked.

[Altheran]

Still waiting for the tank specs to get medium armor.

 

Will never happen.

[Morrolan]

So the four Deception/Infiltration active abilities are:

 

1. Voltaic Slash/Clairvoyant Strike
   
2. Low Slash
   
3. Ball Lightning/Psychokinetic Blast
   
4. ???
   

 

Where's the fourth ability? Surging Charge/Shadow Technique is not an active ability, it's a passive stance, so it can't be that, right? RIGHT? That wouldn't be cool, especially since Powertechs/Vanguards get all of their stances baseline.

 

That does seem inequitable, I wonder what will happen with Guards/juggs?

[Monterone]

Not happy about these changes, I play deception and infiltration.

 

Further nerf to crit chance, no new abilities, and a buff to Lacerate to be used in rotation?! I can't test these yet, but you kidding me?

 

Why break up a rotation we've been playing for 2 years to introduce more Lacerate in it? In fact, why not make Lacerate just... better? Give it larger range like other AoEs and it actually might get used. Give it a slow, or a debuff. Simply expecting us to start including a sub-par ability into a new rotation is a good way to get me to take a break from one of my mains. It doesn't matter it will cost less force, or maybe it will get more damage or crit multplier -- it's still a crap ability, only used when stopping Voidstar door caps, or inside a Novare bunker.

 

Are you saying you're making Lacerate so awesome now, it will actually be used in ranked? If the answer is no, then just remove it and give us something meaningful.