Some weird things happening on TOFN. Hacks?

[mrkmcknz]

[02:56:43.944] [@MORON] [@Zpe] [slash {947001634062336}] [ApplyEffect {836045448945477}: Damage {836045448945501}] (0 -parry {836045448945503}) <1>

[02:56:44.025] [@MORON] [@Zpe] [Force Leap {812105301229568}] [RemoveEffect {836045448945478}: Immobilized {812105301229840}] ()

[02:56:44.310] [@No'la] [@Zpe] [Revivification {808703687131136}] [ApplyEffect {836045448945477}: Heal {836045448945500}] (871*)

[02:56:44.311] [@Zpe] [@Zpe] [Primary Surge {3303173448007680}] [RemoveEffect {836045448945478}: Primary Surge {3303173448007680}] ()

[02:56:44.378] [@MORON] [@Zpe] [Twin Saber Throw {3066615239278592}] [RemoveEffect {836045448945478}: Slowed (Physical) {3066615239278852}] ()

[02:56:44.458] [@Zpe] [@Zpe] [Parasitism {808458873995264}] [ApplyEffect {836045448945477}: Heal {836045448945500}] (556)

[02:56:44.459] [@Zpe] [@Illuminative] [shocked (Not Cleanseable) {808235535696278}] [ApplyEffect {836045448945477}: Damage {836045448945501}] (1090* energy {836045448940874}) <1090>

[02:56:44.480] [@Timetravel] [@Zpe] [Thermal Grenade {807290642890752}] [ApplyEffect {836045448945477}: Damage {836045448945501}] (1934 kinetic {836045448940873}) <1934>

[02:56:44.558] [@No'la] [@Zpe] [Dark Heal {808218355826688}] [ApplyEffect {836045448945477}: Heal {836045448945500}] (4667*)

[02:56:44.686] [@Noself] [@Zpe] [Weaken Mind (Not Cleanseable) {812861215473989}] [ApplyEffect {836045448945477}: Damage {836045448945501}] (1054* internal {836045448940876}) <1054>

[02:56:44.778] [@MORON] [@Zpe] [slash {947001634062336}] [ApplyEffect {836045448945477}: Damage {836045448945501}] (0 -parry {836045448945503}) <1>

[02:56:44.837] [@MORON] [@Zpe] [Force Camouflage {812096711294976}] [Event {836045448945472}: ModifyThreat {836045448945483}] () <-281514>

 

One player was wrecking face in wzs last night. I'm looking at games with some top 5 eu players in and this one guy is running around wrecking everyone. It was very suspicious and multiple players said the same thing during the warzone despite not knowing what his numbers looked like.

 

Am I thick or is MORON not using the same GCD as every other soul playing the game?

 

UPDATE: I have more logs, 4mb to be precise if anyone wants to analyse further,

UPDATE2: The person in question was not a combat sentinel.

Edited October 31, 2014 by mrkmcknz

[Ryuku-sama]

[02:56:43.944] [@MORON] [@Zpe] [slash {947001634062336}] [ApplyEffect {836045448945477}: Damage {836045448945501}] (0 -parry {836045448945503}) <1>

[02:56:44.025] [@MORON] [@Zpe] [Force Leap {812105301229568}] [RemoveEffect {836045448945478}: Immobilized {812105301229840}] ()

[02:56:44.310] [@No'la] [@Zpe] [Revivification {808703687131136}] [ApplyEffect {836045448945477}: Heal {836045448945500}] (871*)

[02:56:44.311] [@Zpe] [@Zpe] [Primary Surge {3303173448007680}] [RemoveEffect {836045448945478}: Primary Surge {3303173448007680}] ()

[02:56:44.378] [@MORON] [@Zpe] [Twin Saber Throw {3066615239278592}] [RemoveEffect {836045448945478}: Slowed (Physical) {3066615239278852}] ()

[02:56:44.458] [@Zpe] [@Zpe] [Parasitism {808458873995264}] [ApplyEffect {836045448945477}: Heal {836045448945500}] (556)

[02:56:44.459] [@Zpe] [@Illuminative] [shocked (Not Cleanseable) {808235535696278}] [ApplyEffect {836045448945477}: Damage {836045448945501}] (1090* energy {836045448940874}) <1090>

[02:56:44.480] [@Timetravel] [@Zpe] [Thermal Grenade {807290642890752}] [ApplyEffect {836045448945477}: Damage {836045448945501}] (1934 kinetic {836045448940873}) <1934>

[02:56:44.558] [@No'la] [@Zpe] [Dark Heal {808218355826688}] [ApplyEffect {836045448945477}: Heal {836045448945500}] (4667*)

[02:56:44.686] [@Noself] [@Zpe] [Weaken Mind (Not Cleanseable) {812861215473989}] [ApplyEffect {836045448945477}: Damage {836045448945501}] (1054* internal {836045448940876}) <1054>

[02:56:44.778] [@MORON] [@Zpe] [slash {947001634062336}] [ApplyEffect {836045448945477}: Damage {836045448945501}] (0 -parry {836045448945503}) <1>

[02:56:44.837] [@MORON] [@Zpe] [Force Camouflage {812096711294976}] [Event {836045448945472}: ModifyThreat {836045448945483}] () <-281514>

 

 

One player was wrecking face in wzs last night. I'm looking at games with some top 5 eu players in and this one guy is running around wrecking everyone. It was very suspicious and multiple players said the same thing during the warzone despite not knowing what his numbers looked like.

 

Am I thick or is MORON not using the same GCD as every other soul playing the game?

 

UPDATE: I have more logs, 4mb to be precise if anyone wants to analyse further,

UPDATE2: The person in question was not a combat sentinel.

 

There are quite a few things wrong in this over the GCD.

[02:56:43.944] [@MORON] [@Zpe] [slash {947001634062336}] [ApplyEffect {836045448945477}: Damage {836045448945501}] (0 -parry {836045448945503}) <1>

[02:56:44.025] [@MORON] [@Zpe] [Force Leap {812105301229568}] [RemoveEffect {836045448945478}: Immobilized {812105301229840}] ()

[02:56:44.378] [@MORON] [@Zpe] [Twin Saber Throw {3066615239278592}] [RemoveEffect {836045448945478}: Slowed (Physical) {3066615239278852}] ()

[02:56:44.778] [@MORON] [@Zpe] [slash {947001634062336}] [ApplyEffect {836045448945477}: Damage {836045448945501}] (0 -parry {836045448945503}) <1>

[02:56:44.837] [@MORON] [@Zpe] [Force Camouflage {812096711294976}] [Event {836045448945472}: ModifyThreat {836045448945483}] () <-281514>

 

His Force Leap didn't do any damage nor his TST.

If you take the time difference between his two Slash (only abilities that do damage) there is a 0.8 sec GCD.

His Force Leap was used at least than 10m. No way he moved at least 6m in less than 0.1 sec but he didn't pop Overload Saber... Which is odd.

He used Slash which isn't bright for a Watchman Sent... So I would guess he is Focus. But then he didn't Sweep after Leaping nor did he use Exhaustion.

 

EDIT : His Leap removed a root from you while it should have applied it.

His TST removed a snare it should have applied.

Edited October 31, 2014 by Ryuku-sama

[mrkmcknz]

I will filter out names and the post the full logs tomorrow morning.

 

Another snippet that shows a lot of activity in 1.5s:

 

[02:52:25.021] [MORON] [@Zpe] [Force Leap {812105301229568}] [ApplyEffect {836045448945477}: Damage {836045448945501}] (1398 energy {836045448940874}) <1398>

[02:52:25.432] [MORON] [@Zpe] [Pacify {1261912931172352}] [ApplyEffect {836045448945477}: Pacify {1261912931172352}] ()

[02:52:25.522] [@Zpe] [MORON] [Lightning Burns (Force) {3212433673945360}] [ApplyEffect {836045448945477}: Damage {836045448945501}] (330 energy {836045448940874}) <330>

[02:52:25.522] [@Zpe] [@Zpe] [] [Restore {836045448945476}: Force {836045448938502}] (2)

[02:52:25.523] [@Zpe] [MORON] [Lightning Burns {3212433673945088}] [RemoveEffect {836045448945478}: Lightning Burns (Force) {3212433673945360}] ()

[02:52:25.805] [MORON] [@Zpe] [Pacify {1261912931172352}] [Event {836045448945472}: ModifyThreat {836045448945483}] () <1>

[02:52:25.936] [MORON] [@Zpe] [Overload Saber {1261719657644032}] [ApplyEffect {836045448945477}: Burning (Physical) (Not Cleanseable) {1261719657644326}] ()

[02:52:25.937] [MORON] [@Zpe] [Weakening Wounds {3188029669769216}] [ApplyEffect {836045448945477}: Weakening Wound (Force) {3188029669769487}] ()

[02:52:25.937] [MORON] [@Zpe] [burning (Physical) (Not Cleanseable) {1261719657644326}] [ApplyEffect {836045448945477}: Damage {836045448945501}] (896* elemental {836045448940875}) <896>

[02:52:26.013] [@Zpe] [@Zpe] [Force Speed {808257010532352}] [Event {836045448945472}: AbilityActivate {836045448945479}] ()

[02:52:26.013] [@Zpe] [@Zpe] [Force Speed {808257010532352}] [ApplyEffect {836045448945477}: Force Speed {808257010532352}] ()

[02:52:26.304] [@Zpe] [@Maritta] [Lightning Burns {3212433673945088}] [ApplyEffect {836045448945477}: Lightning Burns (Force) {3212433673945360}] ()

[02:52:26.304] [@Zpe] [@Maritta] [Creeping Terror (Not Cleanseable) {808424514257194}] [ApplyEffect {836045448945477}: Damage {836045448945501}] (662 internal {836045448940876}) <662>

[02:52:26.416] [MORON] [@Zpe] [Force Leap {812105301229568}] [RemoveEffect {836045448945478}: Immobilized {812105301229840}] ()

[02:52:26.514] [@Zpe] [MORON] [Creeping Terror {808424514256896}] [RemoveEffect {836045448945478}: Immobilized (Force) {808424514257152}] ()

[02:52:26.571] [MORON] [@Zpe] [Zealous Strike {996200484438016}] [ApplyEffect {836045448945477}: Damage {836045448945501}] (1404* energy {836045448940874}) <1404>

[02:52:26.682] [MORON] [@Zpe] [Zealous Strike {996200484438016}] [ApplyEffect {836045448945477}: Damage {836045448945501}] (330 energy {836045448940874}) <330>

[Ryuku-sama]

I will filter out names and the post the full logs tomorrow morning.

 

Another snippet that shows a lot of activity in 1.5s:

 

 

[02:52:25.021] [MORON] [@Zpe] [Force Leap {812105301229568}] [ApplyEffect {836045448945477}: Damage {836045448945501}] (1398 energy {836045448940874}) <1398>

[02:52:25.432] [MORON] [@Zpe] [Pacify {1261912931172352}] [ApplyEffect {836045448945477}: Pacify {1261912931172352}] ()

[02:52:25.522] [@Zpe] [MORON] [Lightning Burns (Force) {3212433673945360}] [ApplyEffect {836045448945477}: Damage {836045448945501}] (330 energy {836045448940874}) <330>

[02:52:25.522] [@Zpe] [@Zpe] [] [Restore {836045448945476}: Force {836045448938502}] (2)

[02:52:25.523] [@Zpe] [MORON] [Lightning Burns {3212433673945088}] [RemoveEffect {836045448945478}: Lightning Burns (Force) {3212433673945360}] ()

[02:52:25.805] [MORON] [@Zpe] [Pacify {1261912931172352}] [Event {836045448945472}: ModifyThreat {836045448945483}] () <1>

[02:52:25.936] [MORON] [@Zpe] [Overload Saber {1261719657644032}] [ApplyEffect {836045448945477}: Burning (Physical) (Not Cleanseable) {1261719657644326}] ()

[02:52:25.937] [MORON] [@Zpe] [Weakening Wounds {3188029669769216}] [ApplyEffect {836045448945477}: Weakening Wound (Force) {3188029669769487}] ()

[02:52:25.937] [MORON] [@Zpe] [burning (Physical) (Not Cleanseable) {1261719657644326}] [ApplyEffect {836045448945477}: Damage {836045448945501}] (896* elemental {836045448940875}) <896>

[02:52:26.013] [@Zpe] [@Zpe] [Force Speed {808257010532352}] [Event {836045448945472}: AbilityActivate {836045448945479}] ()

[02:52:26.013] [@Zpe] [@Zpe] [Force Speed {808257010532352}] [ApplyEffect {836045448945477}: Force Speed {808257010532352}] ()

[02:52:26.304] [@Zpe] [@Maritta] [Lightning Burns {3212433673945088}] [ApplyEffect {836045448945477}: Lightning Burns (Force) {3212433673945360}] ()

[02:52:26.304] [@Zpe] [@Maritta] [Creeping Terror (Not Cleanseable) {808424514257194}] [ApplyEffect {836045448945477}: Damage {836045448945501}] (662 internal {836045448940876}) <662>

[02:52:26.416] [MORON] [@Zpe] [Force Leap {812105301229568}] [RemoveEffect {836045448945478}: Immobilized {812105301229840}] ()

[02:52:26.514] [@Zpe] [MORON] [Creeping Terror {808424514256896}] [RemoveEffect {836045448945478}: Immobilized (Force) {808424514257152}] ()

[02:52:26.571] [MORON] [@Zpe] [Zealous Strike {996200484438016}] [ApplyEffect {836045448945477}: Damage {836045448945501}] (1404* energy {836045448940874}) <1404>

[02:52:26.682] [MORON] [@Zpe] [Zealous Strike {996200484438016}] [ApplyEffect {836045448945477}: Damage {836045448945501}] (330 energy {836045448940874}) <330>

 

Applied Pacifiy twice, one I think didn't work (could also be how Pacify is recorded in logs.. can't be sure)

Leap > Zealous Strike takes less than 0.2 sec. But it could be due to animation delay.

Overload Saber is off-GCD so nothing wrong here.

Leap > Leap is 1.4s. So the GCD may be there (Can some confirm if Pacify is on or off the GCD plz?)

His second Leap didn't do any damage and removed the root it was supposed to apply.

Zealous Strike fall right at 1.5s and worked correctly (in fact it lack one hit).

 

EDIT : I can't draw conclusion from a log. Latency doesn't show up on the log, it will be visible on a video tho. I advice you to actually get a video of him next time.

Edited October 31, 2014 by Ryuku-sama

[Zoom_VI]

Pacify, camouflage, and Overload saber are both off the GCD Edited October 31, 2014 by Zoom_VI

[AngusFTW]

I know who this is about and have played with the guy in question and he doesnt hack

and ye watchman sentinel has abilitys off the gcd too

and slash is filler for watchman it reset cd on cauterise and what else aer you going to lose when meciless and overload are on cd when you have enough focus ;_;

Edited October 31, 2014 by AngusFTW

[blackryptonite]

its funny to see people trying to make up wierd stories when someone else owns them instead of accepting the fact that there are better players than them.

 

we must go deeper and deeper!!!111!!1!!!ONEONEONE!!!11

 

did you see that?

 

this guy is a jedi sentinel. "jedi sentinel" has 12 letters. 12/4=3

 

there are three vertices in a triangle.

 

illuminati confirmed

[mrkmcknz]

Could be innocent. Could be sinister. Either way I submitted my logs and two guys also sent in some videos so I guess the team will decide themselves.

[wilwaycoh]

Roll Watchman Sentinel, Then think really hard before you post a topic like this again so you don't embarrass yourself.

[mrkmcknz]

Roll Watchman Sentinel, Then think really hard before you post a topic like this again so you don't embarrass yourself.

 

I have a sentinel(Verdurk)/marauder(Smásh). But thanks.

[Evolixe]

This whole thread just makes me

[funkiestj]

This whole thread just makes me

 

I think we all need to give mad props to OP for:

• asking the question "is this hacking?" rather than stating it as a fact when they are not an expert on the topic being discussed.
  
• providing a combat log as evidence on which to discuss the question (hooray for evidence! Videos are great too)
  

 

If everyone did these two things they would receive a lot less derision.

 

Being ignorant is not a (social) crime but acting like you know what you are talking about when you are actually ignorant is a (social) crime.

[tootoofun]

Roll Watchman Sentinel, Then think really hard before you post a topic like this again so you don't embarrass yourself.

 

roll for easymode cause it makes up for lack of talent

[Ramhez]

looks bit suspicious i guess because 'unknown' (keeps changing name) sentinel comes into wz and starts wrecking people and sentinel abilities show up in combat log weirdly because of animation delay, second hit from offhand and stuff off gcd etc. i saw the logs, can understand the confusion and imo this is a pretty fair question unlike the usual scrub hackusations cuz they got globalled by an assault vg or whatever. but no the guy isn't hacking

[mrkmcknz]

Yeah I mean the guy didn't produce numbers that were beyond the norm. 1200-1300 DPS and of course all the madness sins were producing more it was the fact he could tank damage from 4/5 of us.

 

Who knows maybe the guy is MLG. Maybe he's an author of the cheat engine. Either way, I'd rather him global the 27k sorcs than having TOFNs favourite latex bear speed hacking every wz.

 

Meh. /Thread.

[SkyLordJaden]

its funny to see people trying to make up wierd stories when someone else owns them instead of accepting the fact that there are better players than them.

 

we must go deeper and deeper!!!111!!1!!!ONEONEONE!!!11

 

did you see that?

 

this guy is a jedi sentinel. "jedi sentinel" has 12 letters. 12/4=3

 

there are three vertices in a triangle.

 

illuminati confirmed

 

Also dont forget that he was 6 at one time and 6 three times is 666

he is satanist

[Foslab]

He is the bestsentinelworld