Serpenttt Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 EA's been worried about money since they nearly went out of business a few years ago; but they're still nowhere near bankruptcy, as the OP would like to think BioWare, on the other hand, will probably not be around much longer, if this game doesn't turn a massive profit You're joking, right? As this thread is a joke I assume your post is as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jhonen Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 yea one to myself ... and its a broke game, getting mroe broken every patch... no end game, no pvp.... warzones are a joke.... valor 32 and its nothign to it with 10-50... no tiers.... they F'd up and it amazes me becasue they had warhammer that they took over which had amazing pvp/rvr.... but they couldnt get this right? There are raids for endgame, and there's plenty of pvp (which I'm enjoying immensely). BioWare didn't take over Warhammer, that was EA Mythic, which was kind of a joke / disaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McAvinue Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 Server sharding. Won't be around forever. But isn't that precisely the problem. WHY have server sharding at all? It's killing the PVP experience. I mean look at all the new threads that keep popping up about this issue alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Febibi Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 There are raids for endgame, and there's plenty of pvp (which I'm enjoying immensely). BioWare didn't take over Warhammer, that was EA Mythic, which was kind of a joke / disaster. bioware did take over warhammer from mythic last year.... they then completely ruined the game in testing formats for pvp in SWTOR.... yet the pvp here is ... well.... as we all know... baaad and pointless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raeyk Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 (edited) I will give it until lvl 50 and give them my final judgement, so they have some time from myself. If patches are all about trying to bring in the WoW base, I will go back to a pvp centric game in a snap, don't even care if it's 5yrs old or more. I want open world pvp myself. Edited December 24, 2011 by raeyk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jhonen Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 But isn't that precisely the problem. WHY have server sharding at all? It's killing the PVP experience. I mean look at all the new threads that keep popping up about this issue alone. It's so they can achieve some level of comfort and stability in their servers. Also, a lot of people were complaining about the leveling zones being cluttered, which is another reason. They've stated it's not going to last forever, and right now I believe it's necessarily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Febibi Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 It's so they can achieve some level of comfort and stability in their servers. Also, a lot of people were complaining about the leveling zones being cluttered, which is another reason. They've stated it's not going to last forever, and right now I believe it's necessarily. the sharding is becasue they are using preowned servers.... the servers cant handle a full 200.... the main problem is they have no setting for draw distance max/min.... they removed graphics controls we had in beta.... thus making the game harder on the server and players machines. each server has about 2500 players max at a time... this is 7 year old graphics technology and 10 year old server technology.... they have not invested properly yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jhonen Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 the sharding is becasue they are using preowned servers.... the servers cant handle a full 200.... the main problem is they have no setting for draw distance max/min.... they removed graphics controls we had in beta.... thus making the game harder on the server and players machines. each server has about 2500 players max at a time... this is 7 year old graphics technology and 10 year old server technology.... they have not invested properly yet. Got any sources for these claims? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Febibi Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 (edited) well 20-50 is a stretch... but 10-50 proves that pvp is broke in BG's .... 3 bg to choose from... empire gets huttball 90% of the time and republic is crying they barely ever get it.... also 10-50 without tiers in pvp has ruined pvp for anyone trying it... our 50 premades can spawn camp all 3 exits....we score 5 then sit around till timer is under a minute and then score the 6th to farm exp.... we dotn get exp for kills but its timer based and win/loss based.... since queue times are long on some servers this is how its handled... thus chasing low levels from ever queueing Edited December 24, 2011 by Ellvaan Rude quoted covered under public notice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jhonen Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 also 10-50 without tiers in pvp has ruined pvp for anyone trying it... our 50 premades can spawn camp all 3 exits....we score 5 then sit around till timer is under a minute and then score the 6th to farm exp.... we dotn get exp for kills but its timer based and win/loss based.... since queue times are long on some servers this is how its handled... thus chasing low levels from ever queueing Oh... you're that kind of person. This explains a lot. Still no sources for your pre-owned server claims, huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xanerithe Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 Everyone level 20-50 can confirm this game does not support world pvp. PVP servers are fake and mean nothing. I pvp all the time in the open world are we playing different games? what is up with people throwing out lies and bs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jhonen Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 well 20-50 is a stretch... but 10-50 proves that pvp is broke in BG's .... 3 bg to choose from... empire gets huttball 90% of the time and republic is crying they barely ever get it.... also 10-50 without tiers in pvp has ruined pvp for anyone trying it... our 50 premades can spawn camp all 3 exits....we score 5 then sit around till timer is under a minute and then score the 6th to farm exp.... we dotn get exp for kills but its timer based and win/loss based.... since queue times are long on some servers this is how its handled... thus chasing low levels from ever queueing Also, a fix for this... bracketing. Woah, I'm a genius! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jestertron Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 (edited) while in Beta i was ganked by troopers and I ganked jedi consulars on my sith warrior. So I assume that everybody is actaully trying to level up before they start ganking each other. fail troll, op. Also just stating that you've seen a lack of world PVP ( i mean seriously, provide proof, dork) does not mean that the other 80% of the game is not enjoyable. Edited December 24, 2011 by jestertron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jhonen Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 I pvp all the time in the open world are we playing different games? what is up with people throwing out lies and bs? I dunno, people don't like one (often easily fixable) aspect of the game, and they throw every positive aspect out the window. It's a shame, really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jhonen Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 Also, I like having two monitors so I can enjoy ToR AND participate in this epic thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadouplus Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 (edited) the sharding is becasue they are using preowned servers.... the servers cant handle a full 200.... the main problem is they have no setting for draw distance max/min.... they removed graphics controls we had in beta.... thus making the game harder on the server and players machines. each server has about 2500 players max at a time... this is 7 year old graphics technology and 10 year old server technology.... they have not invested properly yet. Thank you private Bioware consultant and network specialist. I am sure everything you state as fact is true, since you sold Bioware the hardware and coded their software... Oh wait. You didn't and you are speculating. Sure fooled me. Edited December 24, 2011 by Shadouplus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrigOrion Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 Enjoy filing for bankruptcy Bioware/EA in a year. Within the entire MMO playing population worldwide, PvP players are only a miniscule percentage. Although the size of their collective ego convinces them that a game is fail unless it is 100% PvP. They could completely eliminate PvP from TOR and it wouldn't matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serpenttt Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 Also, I like having two monitors so I can enjoy ToR AND participate in this epic thread. I have only one monitor, but it's great entertainment while at work! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harpuax Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 You mean those 3 hours I spent on Tatooine today fighting Imps didn't really happen? Must be some good drugs I have or something. Oh and that was even on a PVE server Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raeyk Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 Within the entire MMO playing population worldwide, PvP players are only a miniscule percentage. Although the size of their collective ego convinces them that a game is fail unless it is 100% PvP. They could completely eliminate PvP from TOR and it wouldn't matter. Really!?! Go count the servers that are pve and then count the ones that are pvp. It's not miniscule Jackie! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMove Posted December 24, 2011 Author Share Posted December 24, 2011 (edited) 2.5k players max on a server makes me lauph. Same BS Rift tried to pull. When you play on the most populated sever and it feels dead something is seriously wrong. Edited December 24, 2011 by TheMove Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantaztik Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 Maybe cause everyone is going Empire? If people go Republic, it's usually on a Republic dominated server(if there is any). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jhonen Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 2.5 players max on a server makes me lauph. Same BS Rift tried to pull. When you play on the most populated sever and it feels dead something is seriously wrong. Server sharding, won't be around forever, it'll feel more alive after that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMove Posted December 24, 2011 Author Share Posted December 24, 2011 I play on The Fatman EC PVP server. Empire 10 hours in warzone queue today got 3 warzones today that were not Hutt Ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMove Posted December 24, 2011 Author Share Posted December 24, 2011 Server sharding, won't be around forever, it'll feel more alive after that. Have they said this. I would drop everything I said if this happens and I will reroll republic and never complain again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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