LOL @ bright wizards being nerfed out of being viable! I played during that whole time and even just recently and BW's are still a very nice dps class. Go play a sorc and tell me how bad the BW's have it with thier ranged KD and kiting abilities that the sorc's don't have. Actually, I don't have anything to gripe about with the sorc either though. The game is very balanced atm and if you don't think so, it's a LTP issue. As for Rift, I agree with your post. Rift absolutely catered to the QQ's on the forums and payed the price for it imo.

Learn to strafe kite.

I think some off it is comming from some bad players that hit autorun so they can hit thier keybinds while moving because they can't do both(not all, but I've seen this a lot in this game). I move around a lot for the right reasons listed, but I don't have to put myself on autorun like some of the bads i've seen.

Have you looked at how many US servers are pvp servers?!? I call BS on your BS post.

The renown system wasn't ruined until Bioware bought them out and they up'd the renown from 80 to 100(which by the way, with scaling, made rr80 not even half way there), and put in the uber rr90 and rr100 gear.

Don't compare warhammer's pvp to the pvp in this game. Warhammer at it's worst was 100 times better than the pvp in swtor. Granted this game has a better story, but how many times can you listen to the sidequests before you turn off the voice acting scenes and play it like every other mmo you've played. Actually, if you don't believe me, go try the free trial of warhammer and see for yourself that even only tier one is better than the pvp in this entire game.

I know It's not right to get your money back at this point, but if you know how to go about it you can probably get it done. I did this with Mortal Online, but that game was crap at release and barely worked. First thing is you need to contact them and tell them you want your money back, and after they refuse you need to go about writing a letter to them. You need to include all info about when you bought the game, the receit, why you deserve a refund(unfinished product) and so on and tell them you are sending a copy of this letter to the Better Business Bureau and your lawyer. Then contact your credit card company and tell them this and this should get the job done, if not contact the Better Business Bureau and talk to them.

THIS discredits anything you say after.

Better performance from the game's engine maybe. The fps a lot of people are getting with decent computers is unacceptable for a mmo.

We have a winner! but seriously, it's bad

This^, most people seem to think it is the 19th but it's not. You will be charged by the days end. Not suggesting people cancel, just giving a heads up.

yeah, and they were rr80 when the patch went live. They had 20 lvls to go and a month was extremely fast. There are still people trying to get to 100, actually far more people that have played for years that have still not gotten there than there are of those that have.

After the test server patch stuff goes live it's just a matter of time, if not when it goes live, that they will enforce a penalty for leaving early.

I'm not talking sov gear, I'm talking warpforged gear @ rr100.

LOL at all of you that actually think this is a gear grind. I've never seen it be sooo easy to get purple gear in an mmo ever. You should have played aion or warhammer(where it took at least 75 ingame days just to be able to get final gear). Yes, that is about a quarter of a year ingame if you don't want to do the math. This is way too easy imo, people are gonna get bored in a month when everyone is completely geared out with not much left to do.

I agree completely. I listened to them at first, but I found myself skipping them after awhile because I just didn't care about why I had to go save thier friends because they couldn't for some reason or something very similar. I would have much rather those resources been put into open world pvp and end game stuff. I did listen to the whole storyline voice overs though and I thought that aspect of it was worth it.

I'm not seeing this on my server at all(Iron Citadel). I am usually pugging it cause I'm still waiting on guildies to get to 50, and win more than I lose vs. Imps. On the subject of losing counted wins, I haven't experience this, but I have had them not count(and yes, I was in the entire match). This should be on the top of the bug fixes for BW imo.

It's not an instant, it's a 3 sec. cast and they have to be grouped pretty tight for this to actually be worth casting(8m). By the way, taking out a single target at a time is group play. I wasn't talking about 1v1 jackie.

50 sage here and to me, the ability isn't even worth picking up. I would much rather have my dots and cc and just kite the hell out of single target melee or disrupt the hell out of single target ranged. I'm not about padding my damage with most of the time worthless aoe.

I wasn't a scrub, but a squishy sorc and it all came down to if I got disarm pop'd on them I win, if not they had me 90% of the time.

You should have played warhammer. Witch Elves and Witch Hunters could kill you in 2-3 secs if they got the jump on you out of steath.

I don't know if this is just on my server or game wide, but Ilum objectives haven't been working properly and warzone wins are not being counted some times for daily's/weekly's. (and yes, even if I joined at the very beginning of the match) Just curious as to how many people are being affected by this. I'm trying to gear up as fast as I can, so this is very frustrating to me.

Thought this guy explains it pretty well in this video here... http://youtu.be/ZA7YuWuIF-k

I stopped reading as soon as I got to this.

^^^^This and I can pick out the WoW kids in this thread pretty easily. I loved most parts about WAR, just a few things that I didn't.