Hei_Atzfel Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Deception assassin can't cleanse sniper's two roots that is heavily relies on. Scrapper can. Shroud cleanses roots and my darkness hybrid's force speed purges roots. So yes, yes we can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KBsFuRy Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 I might have to switch my toons name to Mr. Torgue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCourier- Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 (edited) Force shroud... 3 seconds.... say hello to debilitate....say hello to losing a DPS race with a sniper while stunned....defense chance goes to 0 while stunned....that makes deflection useless while stunned....marksman spec can do 10000 white damage during a 4 second stun....the sniper uses dodge while the assassin mauls.... Dodge not only cleanses roots, it protects against most of snipers' damage. Assassin can win 1 vs 1 against snipers, but operative is stronger against snipers than assassin is. Snipers have almost no defense against tech attacks, and almost all of operative's attacks are tech. Operative can also flashbang then heal. Edited January 23, 2014 by TheCourier- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCourier- Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Shroud cleanses roots and my darkness hybrid's force speed purges roots. So yes, yes we can Darkness hybrid should not exist. Bioware has tried to kill out hybrid specs over, and over again. They just keep failing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aetideus Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 (edited) "smashers" were not crying for a hybrid nerf. Everyone was because it breaks the matchmaking system. You had a spec that had fairly decent defensive utility that could also put out good dps. It wasn't broken per say, but it did **** with the balance of matchmaking and it made tanks more or less obsolete in arenas because even team ranked was running them. Personally I think hybrids should never be allowed. 36 points should be required in a single tree before being allowed to put points into another tree do stop these matchmaking situations where people are being marked as dps but are actually healing/tanking. I don't think its broken or OP, but in a matchmaking environment it breaks the tool that is trying to form balanced teams. The matchmaking system was offended in certain scenarios in solo ranked when there was no tank in the other team or 4 vs 4 dps. Which is no matter because almost no one queues. For unranked arenas, is too crapped to even state an argument. Actually the only advantage of hybrid is against area attacks e.g predominantly smashers in arenas. Understandably, hiting 6.5 - 7.5k on tanks and 10+ on other poor classes and then only 4.5 on hybrid, is a source of frustration. Which BW eagerly relieved. Edited January 24, 2014 by Aetideus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ottoattack Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 The matchmaking system was offended in certain scenarios in solo ranked when there was no tank in the other team or 4 vs 4 dps. Which is no matter because almost no one queues. For unranked arenas, is too crapped to even state an argument. Actually the only advantage of hybrid is against area attacks e.g predominantly smashers in arenas. Understandably, hiting 6.5 - 7.5k on tanks and 10+ on other poor classes and then only 4.5 on hybrid, is a source of frustration. Which BW eagerly relieved. But AP as dps still kills smashers. BTW, the highest smash I have seen as AP PT was 6.1K and the majority are under 5K. Of course everyone now is switching to single target dps, cuz ops healers will heal through anything except a huge spike in damage. Pyro is a bit overrated, it just works great against warriors, which compromise easy 50% of PvP population, thus the assumption is that they are OP. That doesn't meant they are not good. Of course the hybrid AP was OP and needed to go. You are not supposed to be doing 1K+ damage while guarding a healer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aetideus Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 (edited) But AP as dps still kills smashers. BTW, the highest smash I have seen as AP PT was 6.1K and the majority are under 5K. Of course everyone now is switching to single target dps, cuz ops healers will heal through anything except a huge spike in damage. Pyro is a bit overrated, it just works great against warriors, which compromise easy 50% of PvP population, thus the assumption is that they are OP. That doesn't meant they are not good. Of course the hybrid AP was OP and needed to go. You are not supposed to be doing 1K+ damage while guarding a healer. Full AP defences against rage spec are better than tank still. Edited January 24, 2014 by Aetideus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machshoot Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 I've been playing shield tech for a while now, and I am incredibly bored of it. The only reason I went ST was due to the lack of tanks that I saw in WZ's, and wanting to be a beefbag. I am going to be dropping a ton of comms switching my gear over to pyro in the coming weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cempa Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 Probably went to an Islamic school. More crimes and murders have been committed in the name of Christianity than any other religion on Earth... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tevzz Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 I've been playing shield tech for a while now, and I am incredibly bored of it. The only reason I went ST was due to the lack of tanks that I saw in WZ's, and wanting to be a beefbag. I am going to be dropping a ton of comms switching my gear over to pyro in the coming weeks. Nuuuuuu!!!! Get the Prototype!!! It's so much better, and seeing 4k+ Prototype Flamethrower ticks is amazing, try throwing that on your healer when he's getting focused by monkeys...and watch him be the only one come out of there alive LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hei_Atzfel Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 Darkness hybrid should not exist. Bioware has tried to kill out hybrid specs over, and over again. They just keep failing. What's wrong with hybrids? It's not like I'm taking HALF the tree, it's just 11/33/2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treblt Posted January 25, 2014 Author Share Posted January 25, 2014 Pyro is best spec, this is common knowledge because incendiary round, assault plastique, sticky grenade, HiB, stockstrike is the best way to kill anything. First off- its got two explosions. Secondly, its got a cool HiB sound. Finally, you get to hit some ***** in the face. Even if it did 0 damage it would still be best spec world and that's what you guys do not realize. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treblt Posted January 29, 2014 Author Share Posted January 29, 2014 Just needed to rebump Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetflair Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 Its dull as hell. I wish I could respect my vanguard to some other AC. I always try to play it but at best it feels medicore. Its even duller than being a smasher. Explosions are dull and slow. Also cant remember maybe one or two pyros I've found annoying. Most of players simply seem to ignore pyros I've noticed. Maybe they shine in ranked arena, but low level pvp, higher level warzones and pve seem not to have them quite much. Troopers are second least popular class in game propably because many people like commmandos/bountyhunters. Without it would be least popular IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Campaigner Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 Hi, you should all play Pyro Powertechs after 2.6, because concealment is getting buffed and no one likes those stun lock unsubs anyways, so you roll a class that makes them cry like a high school girl having her first 1) Explosion, and if you stack multiple explosions you get this 2) If that was not enough reason then this should be - Pyro is best spec world I'm pretty sure everyone has already tried Pyro Powertech, the easiest FOTM class in the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SajPl Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 I'm pretty sure everyone has already tried Pyro Powertech, the easiest FOTM class in the game. Right after smasher, flavor of the year 2 buton spec. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treblt Posted January 29, 2014 Author Share Posted January 29, 2014 All wrong, pls explain why I can carry an entire WZ playing pyro. It is best spec world, do not contest this fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetflair Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 (edited) All wrong, pls explain why I can carry an entire WZ playing pyro. It is best spec world, do not contest this fact. I'm bit mystified by your statement. Far as I can tell best way to top damage in WZ is to do AOE dots. Or by what way you mean you're carrying WZ's? Edited January 29, 2014 by Jetflair Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reclipsed Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 More crimes and murders have been committed in the name of Christianity than any other religion on Earth... This guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthOvertone Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 Explosions...it's why I rolled a PT, not once but TWICE! It's all about the Tech... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRampage Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 If you hate bioware godclass you will play pt/vanguard. That is the best reason. Man up and play vanguard/poqertech. Only proper class to play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoom_VI Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 VG class best class. I have four troopers and two bounty hunters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tevzz Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 VG class best class. I have four troopers and two bounty hunters Man, didn't you hear the OP, clearly PYRO iz best spec world, VG's can't compare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treblt Posted January 31, 2014 Author Share Posted January 31, 2014 Man, didn't you hear the OP, clearly PYRO iz best spec world, VG's can't compare. Thank you for backing up my claim of Pyro being best spec world! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turretboy Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 Played since launch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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