anwg Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 Tank: 2 minutes Healer: 90 seconds DPS: 30 seconds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rantboi Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anwg Posted November 8, 2013 Author Share Posted November 8, 2013 Just sick of waiting 2 minutes for some AFK DPS, my record so far is 5 before the group finally formed (that's 10 minutes of pointless waiting) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ELRunninW Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 Just sick of waiting 2 minutes for some AFK DPS, my record so far is 5 before the group finally formed (that's 10 minutes of pointless waiting) What is your 2 minutes compering to an hour a DPS has to wait for a pop? Try and understand what is going on, people wait so long that sometimes they just forget they are in a queue or may have switched screen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anwg Posted November 8, 2013 Author Share Posted November 8, 2013 Then they should leave queue if they need to AFK. Not doing so wastes the time of the other 3 people, and any other DPS behind in the queue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ELRunninW Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 (edited) Then they should leave queue if they need to AFK. Not doing so wastes the time of the other 3 people, and any other DPS behind in the queue. No, you misunderstood, the wait time is causing them to AFK not the other way around. Did you actually expect someone to stare at the screen for an hour to make sure Your Royal Highness does not have to wait 2 minutes? You are playing the wrong game. Edited November 8, 2013 by ELRunninW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anwg Posted November 8, 2013 Author Share Posted November 8, 2013 No, you misunderstood, the wait time is causing them to AFK not the other way around. I know why they afk and frankly that's not anyone's fault but their own. So they shouldn't inconvenience others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sithBracer Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 I don't think they should change the time, but after 30 seconds the other players should be able to vote to kick. It really is annoying getting 4 people afking all 2 minutes in a row, annoying for the tank, the healer and the dps (who actually saw the notice and clicked despite waiting the same amount of time). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wainot-keel Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 whoa... just whoa... if it's okay to wait 2 minutes for you, it's okay to wait 2 minutes for anyone else. get over yourself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecoffeecup Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 (edited) Then they should leave queue if they need to AFK. Not doing so wastes the time of the other 3 people, and any other DPS behind in the queue. The DPS aren't doing it to annoy you. They are AFK because they've likely been waiting a long time, and sometimes people go AFK when they are at the computer for a long time. What you've got yourself here is a first world problem, and a pretty small one at that. Imagine waiting for a group for an hour and a half only to get kicked when one forms because you went to get a cup of coffee. Edited November 8, 2013 by thecoffeecup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anwg Posted November 8, 2013 Author Share Posted November 8, 2013 The DPS aren't doing it to annoy you. They are AFK because they've likely been waiting a long time, and sometimes people go AFK when they are at the computer for a long time. Like I said, not anyone's problem but theirs. TBH it's really dumb to go AFK if you have already invested that much time. Imagine waiting for a group for an hour and a half only to get kicked when one forms because you went to get a cup of coffee. So? If he's AFK, it doesn't matter he gets kicked after 2 minutes or 30 seconds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anwg Posted November 8, 2013 Author Share Posted November 8, 2013 whoa... just whoa... if it's okay to wait 2 minutes for you, it's okay to wait 2 minutes for anyone else. get over yourself Ok I can play this game too, if I can sit there and watch for the pop, so can they. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wainot-keel Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 (edited) Ok I can play this game too, if I can sit there and watch for the pop, so can they. Problem is, you think you're special and your demanding special treatment. You are not. If you don't want to risk AFK ppl, make the group yourself (you'll have no trouble at all if you're a tank) and queue the team up. Problem solved. Also, you shouldn't forget that you have fast pops because they are many of other roles, if others massively play tanks, your queues would suck as well and you would be the one going afk. Everything has pros and cons. Deal with it. Edited November 9, 2013 by wainot-keel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowermanx Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 I agree it should be 30 sec, but for everyone. 2 mins is just too long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wainot-keel Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 (edited) I love how all you idiots assuming I only play a tank, in fact I queue as all 3 roles. . Who cares ? I have 2 tanks, 3 healers and 2 dps. I queue with all of them. *shrug* This is simply a numbers game, tanks are hard to find, their slowness is more tolerable, so it makes sense their time out is longer. I disagree. If anything, it should be shorter, since their queues are short, they really have little excuse to be afk. And I'm not saying it should. Just the same as everybody. The rules should be the same for everybody. The system shouln't benefit a group more than others, otherwise, next thing will be tanks asking to be allowed roll need on everything everytime, because you know , they're hard to find and stuf.... Edited November 9, 2013 by wainot-keel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siorac Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 Just add a loud, clear, distinct sound effect to group finder pops. Kinda like Warzones: even if I'm alt+tabbed out, I never miss a Warzone pop because of the very distinct sound effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eartharioch Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 Or just send out invites to 3 (or more) DPS at the same time, first two to respond get the queue, the others get put back at the front of the queue. Kick the DPS out of queue after a few consecutive "misses". Something like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDconqueror Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 As stated before, first world problems... Move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anwg Posted November 9, 2013 Author Share Posted November 9, 2013 (edited) I disagree. If anything, it should be shorter, since their queues are short, they really have little excuse to be afk. And I'm not saying it should. Just the same as everybody. You do realize, 10 minutes is the same as 30 seconds for tanks given the average wait-for-tank timer. The rules should be the same for everybody. The system shouln't benefit a group more than others, otherwise, next thing will be tanks asking to be allowed roll need on everything everytime, because you know , they're hard to find and stuf.... DPS are second class citizens of the group finder queue, that's just the fact. You can spout platitudes all you like, it's not going to change. Edited November 9, 2013 by anwg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaydedHunter Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 (edited) Yo dawg I heard you like inequality, so I put some inequality in your inequality so you can inequalise while you're inequalising. Denied. Edited November 9, 2013 by JaydedHunter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeweledleah Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 Like I said, not anyone's problem but theirs. TBH it's really dumb to go AFK if you have already invested that much time. So? If he's AFK, it doesn't matter he gets kicked after 2 minutes or 30 seconds. because maybe they would have been back in 40, or even in 90. stop being such a diva. few minutes of wait time are not going to kill you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laaguna Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 https://www.kleenex.com/UltraSoft.aspx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mavery Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 The OP makes a good point, but he goes about it completely the wrong way, making himself look bad in the process. The time to respond is way too long in group finder. It should be decreased by at least half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loc_n_lol Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 If you cut the time by half, it becomes shorter than the loading time on certain planets... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feketebirka Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 OP should measure runtime to toilet + small job + wash hands + dry hands + run back. No cheating, we dont wanna have stuff to get on keyboard. Try to make it in 30 seconds! Anyway, i think good dps is hard to find, and even worse when unnecessarily stressed. Two additions could help: 1: distinct sound for FP popup (like in WZ) 2: optional short (eg 5 miin) "out time" after each hour in the queue. (stay in queue, but if you are next, you let the next one in queue to go). this isbetter for group and the dps after you, no others get a disadvantage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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