Laforet Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 We have received "Brainstorming" threads from Eric Musco while healing operatives, warriors, assasins and snipers have none. Notice i use the word "underdeveloped" not "underpowered" or "broken". Sharpen your knifes guys. 2.5 will be the big comeback of sorc smash, stunlocking ops and godmode mercs. /discuss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technohic Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 As long as mercs go back to pooping tracer missiles, I'm in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidichIorian Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 (edited) Remember the feedback threads? Pretty much every sage and sorc out there agreed on a couple of things. None of those things were implemented. And they excluded madness/balance because they think their dot immunity tweak changes things. They've obviously not realized that +90 % of all Arena healers are operatives who can't cleanse them anyway. Edited October 28, 2013 by MidichIorian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldSpiceSwag Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 they limited it to lightning and corruption, despite this being good, it suggests they think madness is in a good, balanced spot. when i read that, basically my last hopes disappeared Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VigDiath Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 But nothing for Balance Shadows and no nerf to lolsmash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cryowolf Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 sharpen your knifes guys. 3.0, or maybe 4.0 will be the big comeback of sorc smash, stunlocking ops and godmode mercs. ftfy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JP_Legatus Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 But nothing for Balance Shadows and no nerf to lolsmash. This. I really enjoy madness dps but since bioware keeps ****** it and its already a bad spec, I don't foresee help for the spec anytime soon. If there was 1 spec in the game that was worse than concealment it would have to be assassin madness. At least undying cheat is getting nerfed, well see how that works out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JP_Legatus Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 they limited it to lightning and corruption, despite this being good, it suggests they think madness is in a good, balanced spot. when i read that, basically my last hopes disappeared Well I think madness was the sorcs best spec (or rather is currently) so I can understand the cleanse-proof change being considered "enough" for the time being as far as sorcs go. I just don't understand how madness sins are getting the same treatment as madness sorcs, as if both specs were equally viable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldSpiceSwag Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 Well I think madness was the sorcs best spec (or rather is currently) so I can understand the cleanse-proof change being considered "enough" for the time being as far as sorcs go. I just don't understand how madness sins are getting the same treatment as madness sorcs, as if both specs were equally viable. madness sucks. lightning is our best 4s spec, but it is awful in solos bc you need a good team to use lightning well. madness is the solo spec of choice because there isnt as much to interrupt. that doesnt mean it is balanced. dot protection is not enough seeing as it only protects from cleanses--which only sorcs can cleanse--and not purges (dodge/shroud) which were the main sources of complaints. basically is close mindedness on the devs' part. madness still needs love, as literally every good sorc will tell you. but since bw disagrees... well.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Telsnow Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 Concealment Operatives have the highest burst in the game right now and can stunlock plus offheal. The class is so freaking overpowered and people are slowly starting to figure it out. I dont care what Bioware acknowledges; they're always six months late with PvP balancing. They either don't play their own game enough or they're too busy cranking out cartel packs to be bothered. DPS Operatives are underdeveloped? Yea maybe two years ago. Right now, they're gods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morde_ Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 Concealment Operatives have the highest burst in the game right now and can stunlock plus offheal. The class is so freaking overpowered and people are slowly starting to figure it out. I dont care what Bioware acknowledges; they're always six months late with PvP balancing. They either don't play their own game enough or they're too busy cranking out cartel packs to be bothered. DPS Operatives are underdeveloped? Yea maybe two years ago. Right now, they're gods. http://i.imgur.com/wjANVCD.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xeraz Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 Concealment Operatives have the highest burst in the game right now and can stunlock plus offheal. The class is so freaking overpowered and people are slowly starting to figure it out. I dont care what Bioware acknowledges; they're always six months late with PvP balancing. They either don't play their own game enough or they're too busy cranking out cartel packs to be bothered. DPS Operatives are underdeveloped? Yea maybe two years ago. Right now, they're gods. http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5044/5269558397_64406aeb94_z.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Telsnow Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 I'm not trolling; I am serious. If you don't know how overpowered DPS Operatives are right now, you either haven't been playing enough lately or you're an absolutely terrible operative or playing with one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xeraz Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 I'm not trolling; I am serious. If you don't know how overpowered DPS Operatives are right now, you either haven't been playing enough lately or you're an absolutely terrible operative or playing with one. http://memecrunch.com/meme/SJY8/still-not-sure-if-serious/image.png Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DynamiCtagez Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 I'm not trolling; I am serious. If you don't know how overpowered DPS Operatives are right now, you either haven't been playing enough lately or you're an absolutely terrible operative or playing with one. *** man u drunk? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laforet Posted October 29, 2013 Author Share Posted October 29, 2013 Concealment Operatives have the highest burst in the game right now and can stunlock plus offheal. The class is so freaking overpowered and people are slowly starting to figure it out. I dont care what Bioware acknowledges; they're always six months late with PvP balancing. They either don't play their own game enough or they're too busy cranking out cartel packs to be bothered. DPS Operatives are underdeveloped? Yea maybe two years ago. Right now, they're gods. 10/10 would bang. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arlanon Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 so operatives are both overpowered AND underpowered? that makes me think it's the player, not the class, who either pwns or sucks. L2P /thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technohic Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 Lmao. Concealment is always OP against those who are terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Telsnow Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 There's obviously a bunch of concealment operatives in this thread who either completely suck at their class or they don't want to get nerfed. Both are understandable. It's hard to push four buttons and win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cycao Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 I have seen some operatives do work in warzones. Having said that I would say of all the players using concealment (I would say it's the 2nd least played spec next to madness assassins) that 99.9% of the players playing them suck at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metalfenix Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 Sharpen your knifes guys. 2.5 will be the big comeback of sorc smash, stunlocking ops and godmode mercs. I'm all up for it. when I get to grind obroan someday with my scoundrel, I'll get a set for my merc/mando healers when they become viable, or better yet, I may level one from zero again, only by PvP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technohic Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 I have seen some operatives do work in warzones. Having said that I would say of all the players using concealment (I would say it's the 2nd least played spec next to madness assassins) that 99.9% of the players playing them suck at it. It's a pretty good jump from terrible at it to overpowered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitroyoshi Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 i think we all agree nerf concealment! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JP_Legatus Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 madness sucks. lightning is our best 4s spec, but it is awful in solos bc you need a good team to use lightning well. madness is the solo spec of choice because there isnt as much to interrupt. that doesnt mean it is balanced. dot protection is not enough seeing as it only protects from cleanses--which only sorcs can cleanse--and not purges (dodge/shroud) which were the main sources of complaints. basically is close mindedness on the devs' part. madness still needs love, as literally every good sorc will tell you. but since bw disagrees... well.... I guess I can see that logic, but I think madness is better. The ability to dps on the move is invaluable for a sorc which I think madness does well. Maybe the hybrid would be the best in between option. I never liked it much but the aoe is nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldSpiceSwag Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 I guess I can see that logic, but I think madness is better. The ability to dps on the move is invaluable for a sorc which I think madness does well. Maybe the hybrid would be the best in between option. I never liked it much but the aoe is nice. madness is better for solos. lightning is best for 4s. if you disagree youre disagreeing with pretty much all the best sorcs in the game who subscribe to my belief. madness is only good in 4s if you stack it. alone lightning is better in a varied comp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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