SamuelAU Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 Gonna be testing each Sniper/Slinger spec for the next week the goal is to see if 3700+ is achievable in each and which is superior. I will be basing the "superior" spec based on avg parse numbers. I believe the flyby nerf hit hard but not hard enough for people to reroll to other classes. IMO 3700+ as max w/ 3650+ avg is good numbers, it makes 150-250 DPS loss we all feel Flyby nerf has brought us down to more like 100-150 DPS loss. Which, I don't know about you, but it makes me feel a little better inside about the whole thing (less violated lol). Anyway here is first day and I will be updating with each spec. At the end of this week I will give a deiailed summary of what I think of each spec. Day 1 - Full Lethality 5/5/36 Volcom - Sniper - Lethality 5/5/36 - 3724.87 (4:30.301s) - didn't do the math on TTK, this is just Torparse crop http://www.torparse.com/a/578617/time/1391590191/1391590461/0/Damage+Dealt Same AMR Note: Once I got my feet set into the rotation my Avg parses were around 3650+ give or take. Gonna work with this spec a bit more (once this week is up), still playing with rotation but this so far gave me the best avg overall. I think I might be able to squeeze more out of this with maybe a blue adrenal and maybe playing around with abilities, gear/stats etc... I feel like full lethality will probably be the best spec since it was least dependent on orbital before 2.6. Having said that, you did manage 3.9k as hybrid before the nerf so 3.7k should be achievable. Either way, your observations (and logs) are going to prove useful for many gunslingers/snipers, myself included. Your efforts are much appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonathanonmars Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 (edited) Blüb - Juggernaut - Vengeance - 4/36/6 - 4'50.299s Log: http://www.torparse.com/a/579292/2/0/Overview3439.01 dps AMR: http://swtor.askmrrobot.com/character/c899a544-8d23-47ff-bda7-46584670aed8 Edited February 5, 2014 by jonathanonmars adding information Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlenux Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 @ multiple Posts above me: As i already wrote before in this thread, Elai'a has a wonderful (and in my opinion) correct explanation. I tested that and I can confirm it (as i already wrote). I didn't know that parsing delay was cpu and not Internet/latency related. Basically the 3500% difference comes from Uriaces being very good at some parts of his parsing and not so good on other parts of his parsing (as his Video showed ). Little side note: Everyone claiming to not be able to parse good because of his Internet Connection is wrong . That MS clipping is a good prove for that . yeap hes just doing impressive APM and clipping there however i do not agree "Connection" doesnt hurt parses. Unfortunately IMO it does (it shouldn't be an excuse) but it does, and tbh is not always the PING, since ive seen AU players playing with 300+ doing good parses (myself, not aussie i avg 200-400)... the real problem is server lags. My Best parses are in the pts, just because first there is no server lag and second East coast let me go to <100 Ms... while on the harbringer, idk about other servers, but pretty sure HB is the most overpopulated and with WAY WORST server stability in the game from the multiple Crash we had in the last 6 months lol, it is almost impossible. i try to parse on my merc where i need to keep cylinder up where in PTS is easy, in Live 7/10 miss the Rail shot hit. Like i said not an excuse but the Lag does influence, not really personal lag but server lag, i can be at perfect Latency and still get delays for some reason sometimes. So yeah even when most of the time is not that big of a problem, i would think someone in Begeren Colony or a RP not so populated server would have much more stability to parse than anyone on Bastion or Harbringer, and specially with stuff like Ravage clips, Merc pyro cylinder Rail shots, Gore Windows, can be really frustrating when server is really slow. Even my sniper, if you notice in my videos, when i do Filler + IP + CG + Dart + Cull, you notice my cull has 1.2-1.3 CD left sometimes when i am using my Dart which makes no sense since i am doing exactly 4 GCD that should be perfect to flil the time for Cull CD, so most of the time i delay it 0.2 + 0.2 + 0.1 + 0.2 which in the end might be a dps lost. but thats me, playing on harbringer and from south america, with an awful connection it doesnt help that much either :Pm but might be the case for some people i would guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anton_RUS Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 (edited) New format: Arrow's - Juggernaut - Vengeance - 4/36/6 - 4'27.4s (3727.09 dps) Log: http://www.torparse.com/a/579300/35/0/Damage+Dealt Juggernauts have a bug. At the end of logs there is now record about deystroying the operation training dummy. This log, as a confirmation of my DPS: Old format: Arrow's - Juggernaut - Vengeance - 4/36/6 - 300s (3757.12 dps) Log: http://www.torparse.com/a/579237/time/1391628270/1391628570/0/Damage+Dealt I have full Dread forged gear with 262 crit rating Edited February 5, 2014 by Anton_RUS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uriaces Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 New format: Arrow's - Juggernaut - Vengeance - 4/36/6 - 4'27.4s (3727.09 dps) Log: http://www.torparse.com/a/579300/35/0/Damage+Dealt Juggernauts have a bug. At the end of logs there is now record about deystroying the operation training dummy. This log, as a confirmation of my DPS: Old format: Arrow's - Juggernaut - Vengeance - 4/36/6 - 300s (3757.12 dps) Log: http://www.torparse.com/a//time/1391628270/1391628570/0/Damage+Dealt I have full Dread forged gear with 262 crit rating Nice try Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongHornTx Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 (edited) New format: Arrow's - Juggernaut - Vengeance - 4/36/6 - 4'27.4s (3727.09 dps) Log: http://www.torparse.com/a/579300/35/0/Damage+Dealt Juggernauts have a bug. At the end of logs there is now record about deystroying the operation training dummy. This log, as a confirmation of my DPS: Old format: Arrow's - Juggernaut - Vengeance - 4/36/6 - 300s (3757.12 dps) Log: http://www.torparse.com/a//time/1391628270/1391628570/0/Damage+Dealt I have full Dread forged gear with 262 crit rating There's no bug, just read the whole log file: 00:14:52.323 Arrow's enters combat. 00:19:19.836 Arrow's kills Operations Training Dummy. which gives a 4m 27.513s parse, i.e. 267.513s. 1 million HP divided by 267.513 = 3738.14 dps Your 2d link is broken, I don't understand your "old format / new format" thing ? By the way, nice try Edited February 5, 2014 by LongHornTx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Transmet Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 There is always a lot of log cheating going on when new patches come out. It's being more subtly done, but seems rampant. There are a lot of parses out there without dead dummies in them and misaligned dps. Check your peers, ya'll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlenux Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 There is always a lot of log cheating going on when new patches come out. It's being more subtly done, but seems rampant. There are a lot of parses out there without dead dummies in them and misaligned dps. Check your peers, ya'll. jeesh noire never trusting anyone uuh? >.< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mastirkal Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 jeesh noire never trusting anyone uuh? >.< We all know you cheat Carl, don't try and throw him off! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Transmet Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 (edited) Posting for a buddy that BW has deemed unfit to post on these forums :PPP Kesmet 3/36/7 concealment operative http://www.torparse.com/a/579889/time/1391642305/1391642553/0/Overview here is his AMR: http://swtor.askmrrobot.com/character/86840928-0196-4c07-838c-4c0f77f41ac3 Edited February 6, 2014 by Transmet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anton_RUS Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 Thank you,LongHornTx =) Small fix: Arrow's - Juggernaut - Vengeance - 4/36/6 - 4'27.513s (3744.51 dps) Log: http://www.torparse.com/a/579300/time/1391631292/1391631559/0/Damage+Dealt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Transmet Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 (edited) and one for me.... Noire Concealment Operative 3/36/7 3988.77 dps - TTK - 4:10.68 http://www.torparse.com/a/579895/time/1391650014/1391650265/0/Damage+Dealt AMR: http://swtor.askmrrobot.com/character/9b9a1355-4d8e-45ef-bcfc-7a9f327fd620 Edited February 6, 2014 by Transmet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quickglue Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 and one for me.... Noire Concealment Operative 3/36/7 3988.77 dps - TTK - 4:10.68 http://www.torparse.com/a/579895/time/1391650014/1391650265/0/Damage+Dealt AMR: http://swtor.askmrrobot.com/character/9b9a1355-4d8e-45ef-bcfc-7a9f327fd620 Holy hell! @.@ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thejollygreenone Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 and one for me.... Noire Concealment Operative 3/36/7 3988.77 dps - TTK - 4:10.68 http://www.torparse.com/a/579895/time/1391650014/1391650265/0/Damage+Dealt AMR: http://swtor.askmrrobot.com/character/9b9a1355-4d8e-45ef-bcfc-7a9f327fd620 man, i really picked the wrong stealth class to pve in -.- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mastirkal Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 man, i really picked the wrong stealth class to pve in -.- You should have clued in at 2.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamuelAU Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 (edited) Need to take a break from parsing for a few days... I still can't touch Volcom's DF output though. Gomerik - Gunslinger - Dirty Fighting - 5/5/36 - 4'32.926s - 3663.61 Log: http://www.torparse.com/a/578709/time/1391598138/1391598411/0/Overview AMR: http://swtor.askmrrobot.com/character/8559d6eb-e5ab-41aa-ac4c-0e36fcc329bd Edited February 6, 2014 by SamuelAU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieGhostDie Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 (edited) My new post 2.6 Marksmanship parse. Lumine - Sniper - Marksmanship - TTK : 4:37:780 @ 3586.34 DPS TorParse: http://www.torparse.com/a/580347 (2nd Column) AMR Link: http://swtor.askmrrobot.com/character/882d7e05-8281-4646-a5ce-b1133f41b1a7 I actually forgot that I added another Battle Enhancement from parsing full Lethality so having 200 Crit was a definitive plus in Marksmanship on my end. Still, I'm going to play around this spec even more (and studying Thrax's PTS parse herp derp) EDIT (2/6/14): Just replaced my PvP Armorings with 78 Armorings to avoid confusion. Edited February 6, 2014 by DieGhostDie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieGhostDie Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 (edited) Lumine - Sniper - Lethality - TTK: 4:34:740 @ 3635.66 DPS TorParse: http://www.torparse.com/a/580353 (5th Column) AMR Link: Same AMR as my last post. Edited February 6, 2014 by DieGhostDie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieGhostDie Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 (edited) Deleted. Accidental post. Edited February 6, 2014 by DieGhostDie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kawabonga Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 Just wanted to point out that #1 Shadow/Assassin parse is labeled as Infiltration, but it's actually Balance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thejollygreenone Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 (edited) You should have clued in at 2.0 i started playing after 2.0 I DIDN'T KNOWWWWW Just wanted to point out that #1 Shadow/Assassin parse is labeled as Infiltration, but it's actually Balance also, this^ it's already been mentioned by various contributors but hasn't (to my knowledge) been recognized by falver. Edited February 6, 2014 by thejollygreenone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mastirkal Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 Superman Mercenary Pyrotech 2/8/36 4 mintues 15 seconds http://www.torparse.com/a/569139 http://swtor.askmrrobot.com/character/215026b9-3e06-4751-847d-8e053bc9652b Falvor also forgot this one. Corrected format. http://www.torparse.com/a/569139/time/1390960520/1390960776/0/Overview Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falver Posted February 6, 2014 Author Share Posted February 6, 2014 Update on Saturday. No longer accepting any pre-2.6 scoundrel/op, guardian/jugg or gunslinger/sniper parses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrillOG- Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 (edited) TrillOG - Sentinel - Combat - 6/36/4 - 4'26.349s - 3751.08 DPS Log: http://www.torparse.com/a/581266 AMR: http://swtor.askmrrobot.com/character/b9ae4ec0-8bad-4db0-8925-cfc730ac85c8 Edited February 6, 2014 by TrillOG- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkkinou Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Yeaaah Good Job Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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