manchusabre Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 People getting 20 fps in CZ198. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captpickles Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 hmmm well that makes sense now. on korriban i was seeing the 'screen shake' at Op headquaters... did not make sense until i was at the dummies and realized the "bombs" in the square were shaking the entire planet .. add on to that it now seems the client is much MUCH worse with ability lag and ability 'loss' while still having the gcd trigger. " " close to quitting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zintiel Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 (edited) Thank you for posting! Please continue to provide details around what you're seeing for performance or other related issues in CZ-198 after 2.3.3. We are currently investigating. It's pretty clear that the issue is linked to the sewer instance on the map. At just about any area once you go past the initial elevator to the warehouse section you will not only see the camera shake from something very large but hear the noises of the sewer beast being fought. If you get anywhere near the instance, you will see other players fighting the monsters inside the sewers along with combat log data 'soandso killed mutated beast' etc. This of course should not be happening because the whole point of the instance is to separate what is going down there so that it won't cause us all to lag! Edited September 17, 2013 by Zintiel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KurganNazzir Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 Just logged onto one of my Imperial characters who was parked downstairs by the cargo hold and I'm seeing the screen shake effect from whatever that Sage skill is (something I've always hated anyway) and my FPS can't even get to 20 (it's sticking more between 10-17). I guess I'll be skipping CZ until this is fixed, bothers my eyes too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Operadragon Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 Throughout CZ-198, it's as if there is a constant "Force Quake" effect, or some sort of planetary bombardment going on. FPS hover between 15-20 the whole time on planet. The FP instances aren't nearly as bad, but are still affected. CPU - Intel i5 2500k GPU - NVidia GeForce GTX 560Ti Single card w/latest drivers RAM - 8 GB Yadda yadda. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhesus_TOR Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 In addition to everything else that's going on, I am also seeing flytext that does not belong to me. I can stand at the drop zone and watch damage, miss, and evasion messages pop from the lower area of the zone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NerdTech Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 Hi guys, since the patch the area cz-198 is unplayable for me, I'm getting 7FPS max... other people have also complained the performance is terrible... im on the red-eclipse server btw... can we get some confirmation on this issue?... thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scortum Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 I'm having the same Issue, I get 110fps everywhere but as soon as I hit CZ-198 it drops to 20, its a serious fps drop for no reason I can see from my end Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaellon Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 It's terrible. Server lag seems fine, and often even dives under the regular - average - value for me, which is around 45ms. But the Frame rate is around 10 to 15 fps, and often even below 10 fps. I posted a message on Facebook too, but it doesn't seem to have been picked up. There's no response, there, neither via Twitter, nor via the 'Dev Tracker' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSigilite Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 @ Harbinger Although CZ-198 seems to be by far the worst at ~ 10 fps for me, the other places I've been today also seem to be suffering from it. Makeb and an instance of Fleet (with only 40 people in it) were a lot less than usual at about 30 FPS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malstrades Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 fantastic, blunderware reverted the game back to illum lag times, what a great time that was -_- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glzmo Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 (edited) I'm also experiencing horrible framerates in CZ-198. I had 100-110 FPS in CZ-198 before today's patch with maximum settings and after it it's 10-25FPS - unplayable! Other areas seem to suffer as well, although I'm loosing only between 5-20 FPS on average there, which isn't bad from 100-110FPS. My PC is pretty high-end, too. System specs (all the latest drivers, BIOS, Firmware, etc. - nothing changed hardware or software wise except TOR since the last patch): Glzmo's Desktop: Cooler Master HAF X Case Corsair Professional Series™ Gold AX1200 80 PLUS® Gold Certified Fully-Modular 1200 Watt Power Supply Corsair Hydro Series H100 Extreme Performance Liquid CPU Cooler with four Corsair Fans in Push/Pull configuration Gigabyte Killer Gaming G1.Assassin2 Mainboard Intel Core i7 3930K @ 4.5GHz 32GB DDR3-1600 Quad Channel RAM (4x8GB Corsair Vengeance CMZ32GX3M4A1600C9 Quad Channel Kit) 2x EVGA Nvidia GeForce GTX 680 FTW+ 4GB w/Backplate PCI-Express 3.0 Video Card SLi (GeForce 326.98 Beta drivers) LG E2750-PV 27" Full-HD LED Monitor @ 1920x1080 @ 60Hz Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi CA20k2 16MB X-RAM onboard Logitech X-530 5.1 Surround Speakers Intel® PRO/1000 PT Server Ehternet Adapter Bigfoot Networks Killer E2100 onboard Gaming NIC 1x 120GB OCZ Vertex 2 SATAII Solid State Disk 1x 512GB Samsung SSD 840 Pro 512GB SATAIII Solid State Disk 1x 2TB Seagate Barracuda XT 7200.12 SATAIII HDD 1x 2TB Western Digital Caviar Black SATAIII HDD LG BH10LS SATA BlueRay Writer Logitech G19 Gaming Keyboard Logitech G700s Rechargeable Wireless Laser Gaming Mouse Microsoft Sidewinder Force Feedback 2 USB Joystick Microsoft Sidewinder Precision 2 USB Joystick 4x Microsoft Xbox 360 Wireless Controller for Windows 2x Wii Remote Plus & Nunchuck Logitech MOMO® Racing Force Feedback Wheel Microsoft LifeCam Studio 1080p Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit (Service Pack 1, Windows Performance Index: 7.9) The performance hit, while definitely there and noticeable on AMD Radeon cards, doesn't appear to be nearly as bad as on Nvidia GeForce cards. On my Alienware M17x Laptop, I'm now getting 33-45 FPS in CZ-198 after this patch with maximum settings (down from 70-90 FPS), which is still halfway playable, yet bad. System specs (all the latest drivers, BIOS, Firmware, etc. - nothing changed hardware or software wise except TOR since the last patch):: Glzmo's Laptop: Alienware M18x-R2 Space Black Intel Core i7 3840QM @ 4 GHz 32GB Kingston HyperX PnP DDR3-1600 RAM (4x8GB / 2x KHX16S9P1K2/16) 2x AMD Radeon 7970M 2GB CrossFireX (Catalyst 13.10 Beta Mobility drivers) 18.4" WideFHD (1920 x 1080) WLED LCD Bigfoot Networks Killer™ Wireless-N 1103 WLAN card Creative Sound Blaster Recon3Di High-Definition 5.1 Audio with THX TruStudio Pro Software Audio Powered by Klipsch® Speakers 1x 120GB OCZ Vertex 2 SATAII Solid State Disk 2x 500GB Seagate Momentus 7200RPM SATA III HDD LG HL-DT-ST DVDRWBD CA40N DVD-RW + BluRay Drive CoolerMaster NotePal U3 Black Notebook cooler Logitech G700s Rechargeable Wireless Laser Gaming Mouse Microsoft Sidewinder Precision 2 USB Joystick Microsoft Xbox 360 Controller for Windows Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit (Service Pack 1, Windows Performance Index: 7.9) This patch needs an immediate performance hotfix (imemdiately!)! Edited September 18, 2013 by Glzmo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonathanCP Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 Happy to see I'm not alone. FPS went from (way over) 60 on Tat to 25-28 on CZ-198 Constant screen shaking from people using their ability, even if I'm way, way far away from them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sala Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 (edited) Wow.. Nvidea GTX 295 2g. 16G Ram. Core i7 4.1 Ghz complete lag fest. Frame staggering, Particle affects, screen skipping. This needs an immediate hotfix. yesterday. PS: appears to run 'slightly' better under full screen mode then windowed. Edited September 17, 2013 by Sala Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommanderKeeva Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 Phew, I'm relieved to know that it's not just me who had a drastic drop in framerates az CZ-198. My computer is top-of-the-line, I used to get 70-80 FPS in CZ-198 but now I'm only getting like 15-20. Just about every other area in the game is fine, I'm getting 70-80 FPS in 16man operations, so the problem must be exclusive to CZ-198. Also, for some reason I keep hearing someone far away using Forcequake and my screen keeps shaking, even though there are no Sages nearby. Why are we seeing Forcequakes being used on a completely different level? Sometimes I get damage numbers just out of nowhere when I'm out of combat, even though they obviously don't belong to me. What the hell did you break again Bioware? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EarnestBunbury Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 (edited) fantastic, blunderware reverted the game back to illum lag times, what a great time that was -_- LOL er... LOL. I like BugoWare or BioFail... Blunder is good though Edited September 17, 2013 by EarnestBunbury Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haggardbr Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 Same problems here... I have: i7 2600 @ 3.4 Ghz 8 Gb DDR3 RAM Sata3 SSD GTX 660Ti Etc, etc... Yesterday I ran Czerka dailies with no problems, all graphics maxed out (including shadows) at over 70 FPS, but today, after patch, I can't go further than 15 ~ 20 FPS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAMFTF Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 Yup it seems to be everyone I lasted about 5 minutes there, I couldn't even run in a straight line because of Force Quakes going off. Couldn't see where the Sage was I gave up and went back to my Ship and logged off. i7 980 EE 24 GB g.skill 1600 240 Intel SSD GTX 680 graphics Never have frame rate problems, except today on CZ-198 only I'll try again later to see if it's calmed down,,, *crosses fingers* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasoneth Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 Checked the Fleet and Makeb, and frame rate is normal for my system (60 fps). But in the CZ-198 daily area, as others have observed, I'm getting a drop to average 15 fps. This kicked in as soon as I entered the zone, and appeared to be constant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvermess Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 Well, for me it's pretty much the same thing, CZ is unplayable. But, just by pure curiosity i checked The Black Hole, and the frame rate was around 23 to 26 and feel kinda choppy - usually 80+. I also checked my low lvl sniper on Balmora to see if it affected, and unfortunately almost the same thing as CZ, 20 fps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayperringo Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 (edited) This performance drop is not only in the CZ area for me. Game wide massive FPS hit and the only thing that has changed is I had to install the patch, game was running sweet before. I have the same. CZ is unplayable but also the rest of the game is showing serious FPS drop, its not like its a huge problem if the fleet is like 50-60 fps but before I was running 70-90. Something has been done to my whole game to make it drop so seriously after 1 patch! I have a GTX 770 so this is quite strange! Edited September 17, 2013 by jayperringo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoFishing Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 Graphics settings between low and very high have no impact on this. What I am noticing on CZ-198 compared to other environments, is that on CZ-198 the game is pulling between 150-300kbps from the server on CZ-198, compared to 8-20kbps on Fleet or Makeb. No idea why CZ-198 needs 10-20x more data from the server than the fleet, but it might be a good place to start looking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brane_Ded Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 I run SWTOR on mostly low/medium settings (due to an aged g-card) however the game typically uses 2 of my 4 cores and will sometimes proc the third core but not often and I'm usually at 50 fps just about everywhere in the game. After patch 2.3.3, all 4 cores have been going at no less than 50% and were all capping out in CZ-198 while only getting 1-2 fps. I have not changed a single setting in months and had no background programs running, not ever a browser or TS/Vent client up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cernow Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 (edited) Graphics settings between low and very high have no impact on this. What I am noticing on CZ-198 compared to other environments, is that on CZ-198 the game is pulling between 150-300kbps from the server on CZ-198, compared to 8-20kbps on Fleet or Makeb. No idea why CZ-198 needs 10-20x more data from the server than the fleet, but it might be a good place to start looking. I think this information backs up what several posters have suggested, that player events in the zone are being broadcast to everyone else in the zone, regardless of distance or indeed instance. So whereas the client would normally only need to receive data for nearby events, all data from the zone is currently being broadcast, hence the horrible lag Edited September 17, 2013 by Cernow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidichIorian Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 Yeah it was really bad, FPS'wise today. When i came on I instantly checked the number of instances, expecting like +10, because it felt like when Makeb first launched and everyone and their grandmother was there. But no, only one instance and 23 people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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