translucentwolf Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 What do you expect from the pvp team? Pvp in this has been a joke since launch. With eah new class balancing and system change it gets worse. 2.0 has totally ruined pvp. Ranked failed iserably, season one will not help that. The arenas so many cried for will also fail within a month or two when people stop playing them. 16v16, 24+ pvp will never happen because the engine will never handle it. Face it, BW has no fricken clue what they are doing pvp wise. They make things worse insead of better. Walk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsillah Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 i don't think you understand what people are saying. What people are saying is that 2.4 doesn't have much pvp content based on a single line in a PREVIEW that is in no way final, nor can be assumed as complete. As soon as people stop acting like they've seen the full patch notes of 2.4, I might start taking them seriously. So far, not impressed.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astrobearx Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 What people are saying is that 2.4 doesn't have much pvp content based on a single line in a PREVIEW that is in no way final, nor can be assumed as complete. As soon as people stop acting like they've seen the full patch notes of 2.4, I might start taking them seriously. So far, not impressed.... hmm...are one of the same ppl that said the exact same thing about 2.1 when the "preview" notes was released and said "wait guys until the patch notes come out" only to find there wasnt alot more than what was reveal already? im not saying 2.4 wont have more (it will now im sure due to all the qq), but im sure what we seen is the meat of the patch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlienEyeTX Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 hmm...are one of the same ppl that said the exact same thing about 2.1 when the "preview" notes was released and said "wait guys until the patch notes come out" only to find there wasnt alot more than what was reveal already? im not saying 2.4 wont have more (it will now im sure due to all the qq), but im sure what we seen is the meat of the patch. Our expectations were set for 2.1 before it hit. If you were disappointed, fine, but they let us know that was happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astrobearx Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 Our expectations were set for 2.1 before it hit. If you were disappointed, fine, but they let us know that was happening. that is my point though. ppl on the forum was going like "well 2.1 isnt cartel market exclusive, just wait." " lol why are you guys crying, just wait. "QQ more, lol you guys havent even seen the patch notes, just wait" and ad nauseum we knew what 2.1 was gonna be , just like we knew what 2.3 is gonna be, just like we KNOW what 2.4 is gonna be. playing ignorance is just silly when bw always release the meatiest info before hand (only with a 1 or 2 secrets lying in wait) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darhsteel Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 So this is what us pvp'ers have waited over a year , 4 vs 4 arenas!!! Instead of fixing the garbage bolster system, adding new war zones and new huttball maps. Finally introducing season 1 of rank matches, you decided to give us more PVE content with very little pvp content. Since we haven't had any pvp updates in months, Sure you can call it a pvp patch. Not sure if you notice bioware, but 4vs4 arenas exist already. Just go to outlaws dent and have 2 teams of 4 battle each other. Bioware, how did you come up with the assumption that what pvpers wanted were smaller teams and less people to pvp with? Have you guys bother to read the pvp forums? The number 1 thing we want is the fix of bolster. #2 is class balances. #3 new 8 vs 8 war zones and huttball maps. #4 season 1 of rank pvp. #5 open world pvp planets. #6 16 vs 16 or 24+ war zone maps. #7 crafting schematics for pvp gear. #8 bigger rewards for completing pvp daily's and weekly's. #9 multi planet pvp objective daily's. so on and so on and sure if you have time 4vs 4 arenas as a JOKE!!! Like many people who play this game, I have a job, family and tons of other real life events that kept me from spending hours upon hours in raids. So I pvp cause its quick and fun. Well it used to be fun. Anyways I thing 2.4 will either keep me as a subscriber or called it a night. With ps4 and Xbox one coming a month after 2.4 I think many players feel the same. YES,YES,a million times,YES. 4 on 4 pvp??? we need MORE players in warzones not less,and some kind of world pvp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TUXs Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 that is my point though. ppl on the forum was going like "well 2.1 isnt cartel market exclusive, just wait." " lol why are you guys crying, just wait. "QQ more, lol you guys havent even seen the patch notes, just wait" and ad nauseum we knew what 2.1 was gonna be , just like we knew what 2.3 is gonna be, just like we KNOW what 2.4 is gonna be. playing ignorance is just silly when bw always release the meatiest info before hand (only with a 1 or 2 secrets lying in wait) Great reply astro!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basreia Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 Alright guys. Here is my PvP suggestion thread that I think has some VERY good ideas in it to make this mmorpg the absolute best for PvP ever made. http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?p=6564959#post6564959 Hope you enjoy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zarakynal Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 the pvp problem is that people still want to pvp Find a new passtime, this game depends on everybody else more then you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurgun Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 So this is what us pvp'ers have waited over a year , 4 vs 4 arenas!!! Instead of fixing the garbage bolster system, adding new war zones and new huttball maps. Finally introducing season 1 of rank matches, you decided to give us more PVE content with very little pvp content. Since we haven't had any pvp updates in months, Sure you can call it a pvp patch. Not sure if you notice bioware, but 4vs4 arenas exist already. Just go to outlaws dent and have 2 teams of 4 battle each other. Bioware, how did you come up with the assumption that what pvpers wanted were smaller teams and less people to pvp with? Have you guys bother to read the pvp forums? The number 1 thing we want is the fix of bolster. #2 is class balances. #3 new 8 vs 8 war zones and huttball maps. #4 season 1 of rank pvp. #5 open world pvp planets. #6 16 vs 16 or 24+ war zone maps. #7 crafting schematics for pvp gear. #8 bigger rewards for completing pvp daily's and weekly's. #9 multi planet pvp objective daily's. so on and so on and sure if you have time 4vs 4 arenas as a JOKE!!! Like many people who play this game, I have a job, family and tons of other real life events that kept me from spending hours upon hours in raids. So I pvp cause its quick and fun. Well it used to be fun. Anyways I thing 2.4 will either keep me as a subscriber or called it a night. With ps4 and Xbox one coming a month after 2.4 I think many players feel the same. For some there is NOTHING that will make them happy. I think it just amounts to a certain element that will always complain about anything and everything that is mentioned just to complain about this game. This game is first and foremost a PvE game, with a PvP element to it. Not that hard to understand. Most PvE players either didn't want or couldn't care less about arenas yet you are getting your wish and you call them a joke? Amazing. Be happy that they are actually getting put in the game for the epeens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ushuma-Orbi Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 Bioware always said, even before launch, that this is mainly a PvE-MMO. If you don't like it, don't play it. Oh really??? When BW said that?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angel_dust Posted July 20, 2013 Author Share Posted July 20, 2013 Most PvE players either didn't want or couldn't care less about arenas yet you are getting your wish and you call them a joke? Amazing. Be happy that they are actually getting put in the game for the epeens. Ummm, I've played on the Fatman and I'm in the Bastion server (both pvp servers) and I can't recall anyone saying that what they really want from this game is arenas!!!! I guarantee you that thing every pvper wants is class re balance and bolster fix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuixupu Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 Oh really??? When BW said that?? I don't know about pre-launch, but at the cantina event in LA they definitely said "This is a primarily PVE focused MMO." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angel_dust Posted July 20, 2013 Author Share Posted July 20, 2013 I don't know about pre-launch, but at the cantina event in LA they definitely said "This is a primarily PVE focused MMO." I would love for Eric or Bruce to comment on this and say once and for all that this game is a PVE mmo with some residue of pvp. That way it's clarified and I along with many others don't have to waste our time and money on this game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowermanx Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 I would love for Eric or Bruce to comment on this and say once and for all that this game is a PVE mmo with some residue of pvp. That way it's clarified and I along with many others don't have to waste our time and money on this game. You don't need anyone to tell you anything, you just need to make up your own mind on your own experience if its worth playing or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBBP Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 You don't need anyone to tell you anything, you just need to make up your own mind on your own experience if its worth playing or not. You would think that would do it. Maybe he is seeking something so that he can rage on the forums about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angel_dust Posted July 20, 2013 Author Share Posted July 20, 2013 (edited) You don't need anyone to tell you anything, you just need to make up your own mind on your own experience if its worth playing or not. The reason I continue playing, is because I have a strong believe and under the impression that the current state of pvp will be fixed and alot more pvp content will be added, not just arenas. Edited July 20, 2013 by angel_dust Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enabe Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 (edited) all i have to say is guilds have been waiting for guild ships since launch which were promised since before launch so the pvpers can wait where are the guild ships many guild have left because this was promised and it has not come out yet i for a fact 7 guilds of 50 people or more that have left because of this Edited August 1, 2013 by enabe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrJurgens Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 that is my point though. ppl on the forum was going like "well 2.1 isnt cartel market exclusive, just wait." " lol why are you guys crying, just wait. "QQ more, lol you guys havent even seen the patch notes, just wait" and ad nauseum we knew what 2.1 was gonna be , just like we knew what 2.3 is gonna be, just like we KNOW what 2.4 is gonna be. playing ignorance is just silly when bw always release the meatiest info before hand (only with a 1 or 2 secrets lying in wait) I love this post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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