Lanklair Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 Can anyone explain why I can run battlefield 3 on ultra with an average 60 fps but swtor only gives me 10-15 in warfronts and most cities ON LOW SETTINGS. My GPU runs at 95-100% on bf3 but only hits 30% max on swtor... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This_is_a_name Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 Can anyone explain why I can run battlefield 3 on ultra with an average 60 fps but swtor only gives me 10-15 in warfronts and most cities ON LOW SETTINGS. My GPU runs at 95-100% on bf3 but only hits 30% max on swtor... Must be something very wrong with your computer. I have a gtx 580 and i have a stable 100 fps everywhere with all settings on high. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perforate Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 Can anyone explain why I can run battlefield 3 on ultra with an average 60 fps but swtor only gives me 10-15 in warfronts and most cities ON LOW SETTINGS. My GPU runs at 95-100% on bf3 but only hits 30% max on swtor... I also have a GTX 570 and SWTOR runs at constant 60 FPS on max settings and with 4xAA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlownSi Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 You must have something else wrong. I run only a GTX 550 Ti and run all settings at high at 1920x1080 and even in busy places get 40-55 FPS. Update drivers, maybe to a re-load of Windows.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSNx Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 im running 2x 590 and no problems, and i have an older machine with a 920 and a 560ti, both play with no framerate issues, this is specific to your config, no the card or the game. Reinstall ya drivers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aethusa Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 Let everything get controlled by application in your driver settings. Dont force or change anything. Maybe only 2x AA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnor-Jax Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 Some area's of the game might show a frame drop if theres a lot of people there, Bioware are still smooting out the servers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orizuru Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 (edited) Yeah, you've got some kind of issue with your PC. I'm running an old EVGA GTX 260 OC Ed. and I get a steady 70 fps on high if I turn shadows off. What is your motherboard, cpu, and memory? I remember reading that this game is a lot like WoW for the fact that it tends to be CPU limited more so than GPU. Which basically means you could be running two GTX 590 GTs in SLI and still only see 30 fps if you are running an old dual core CPU with less than a 1066 mHz fsb. Edited December 20, 2011 by NaciremaDiputs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanklair Posted December 20, 2011 Author Share Posted December 20, 2011 I have 8 gigs of ddr3 and a Amd phenom ii quad core at 2.8. I'm almost certain the problem is that the games only runnin my gpu at 30%... How can I fix that. All other games run fine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Novantco Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 Ignore the people telling you that "There is something wrong with your pc". Check out this thread on the customer service section of the forums. http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=22835 The tips in there helped me out a lot with fps but it didn't work for everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thegroundissour Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 my spec, i5 2500k @ 4.3 ghz 8gig DDR GTX 570 getting 110 indoors but outside i get regular slowdowns to 60-70 , in warzones it's around 50-70 regardless if the settings are all on high or low, talk about crappy optimization. Considering my PC I was expecting better than 50 fps in warzones. I feel sorry for people with minimum specs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pwiggin Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 Update your drivers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exsidium Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 (edited) I'm getting 50-80 fps on max settings on a gtx 285 that I overclocked, so I'm pretty sure the problem is on your end. Edited December 20, 2011 by Exsidium Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharma Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 i also have a gtx570. 16GB RAM, i7-2600k. never had a slow down except for the rare server lag. /shrug i really think people could most benefit from more RAM. i can't remember the exact number but when I checked my memory usage SWTOR was pulling around 4GB of physical memory just by itself. with other programs running I was using up to 6.5. with a few more programs running could probably get close to filling up 8.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanklair Posted December 20, 2011 Author Share Posted December 20, 2011 I think you're all ignoring the fact that I said my FPS in Battlefield 3 or any other game is perfectly fine on ultra settings. My drivers are updated I've tried three different sets of drivers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordStriker Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 GTX580 - 120 dps in lone areas, 100 in crowded areas - oh yea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aniaden Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 Sounds like your bottle necking somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanklair Posted December 20, 2011 Author Share Posted December 20, 2011 No it doesn't sound like I'm bottle necking. If I can run bf 3 on ultra setting in a 64 man game perfectly fine with 60+ fps then I'm not bottle necking. Can someone who's getting good fps in swtor post what % your gpu is being used while your in game? Mines only runnin 30% it's like the games not using my gpu at all. All my other games run the gpu at 90-100% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanklair Posted December 20, 2011 Author Share Posted December 20, 2011 Bump//filler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fellthar Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 No it doesn't sound like I'm bottle necking. If I can run bf 3 on ultra setting in a 64 man game perfectly fine with 60+ fps then I'm not bottle necking. Can someone who's getting good fps in swtor post what % your gpu is being used while your in game? Mines only runnin 30% it's like the games not using my gpu at all. All my other games run the gpu at 90-100% Try setting your graphics to high, hit ok, then go back and set them to low, hit ok. Then manually raise each option to high. Some people have reported success with this method in changing the framerate when it is artificially low. Other than that, update your drivers. You must be able to see how people could think you have some sort of other issue with your pc, since most people with video cards worse than yours get a much higher framerate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanklair Posted December 20, 2011 Author Share Posted December 20, 2011 Yes I've tried that fix. It doesn't work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fellthar Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 Yes I've tried that fix. It doesn't work. Your pc does not seem to be the norm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaszloIII Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 For those people saying you have a computer problem with this game, do not listen to those clowns. I am having the same issue with the game. My max frames range from 60 FPS - 85 FPS occasionally. My average frames in the world and in the cities is 15 FPS - 39 FPS. I am a system builder and run my own business. I have tried all different drivers and still get the same results. I have multiple gaming computers and I am having the same problem on most of them. Here are my specs: System #1 GTX 570 in SLI 16GB of Corsair RAM AMD Phenom II X6 1100T Creative Labs Titanium X-Fi 1050 watt Corsair Power Supply Asrock 990FX Extreme 3 System #2 GTX 570 in SLI 16 of Corsair Ram Intel I7 2600K Asrock P67 Fatal1ty Creative Labs Titanium X-Fi 1200 watt PC Power & Cooling Power Supply I play Battlefield 3 on Ultra and get an average frame of 125 FPS - 160 FPS on the AMD. I play many other dx11, dx9, and dx10 games on both systems and max out all my settings. This is the only game that runs like garbage on my AMD. I have tried running the game with only 1 GTX 570 and the results are the same as with both cards in SLI. Summary: The FPS issues with this game are a result of software, not hardware. Either EA or Nvidia/AMD need to fix these video/memory leakage issues. There is no reason why either of my top end systems should ever see 15 - 39 FPS. Even when I turn my graphics on low, I still only get about 10-15 frames more. On low graphics my top end computers still see FPS ranges in the 20 FPS range at times. This is very unacceptable. It is issues like this that cause customers to quit an MMO. I just hope this is fix soon because at times the game is unplayable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khaoimon Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 (edited) To OP: You say your graphics card usage is 30%. You might want to check gpu-z and see what your clocks/shaders are at. Its possible that your graphics card is down-clocking for some reason. It is an issue with your computer, settings, and the client. That doesn't mean it doesn't have anything to do with Swtor. I have an AMD 555 and a 570 and I sit at 60fps the majority of the time on high. Sometimes it drops to in the 40s. I have AA forced through nvidia inspector, not nvidia control panel. While I understand your bottleneck rational my 555 is pushed to 4.0ghz. BF3 may be highly optimized for video cards while swtor may rely heavily on the CPU. It is possible it is not feeding your graphics card fast enough-hence bottleneck. Bf3 may be sending more info to your graphics card, but swtor may be using so much cpu that it isn't able to send enough info. That doesn't mean that is your issue, but ruling it out because you can play bf3 on ultra does not make sense. To Lazlo3 with the 'super' computer: While there are various issues with the client it sounds like you are definitely down-clocking. I agree there is no reason you should ever see 15fps with that system. However, I have had plenty of issues with swtor, but none of them have been fps related, and I run a much lesser system. You say you are in the business, but my first guess would be power management settings in your bios. Edit: I just noticed the SLI. I doubt you haven't tried this, but I would disable one, remove the bridge. We all know how wonderful nvidia is about releasing sli optimization months and months after a release. Not to mention if its a down-clocking issue that is so much overkill your dual graphics cards should be yawning without forced optimization. You may want to try running bf3 + swtor at the same time or a graphics benchmark + swtor to see if you get a lot better performance under full load. When I get home from work I'll check what kind of usage I'm sitting at/what driver version and see if I can't be more helpful. Edit 2: I don't know how this would effect your situation but swtor is recommending you set your pagefile to 3x your ram. Win 7 64 bit auto sets mine at 1gig under my amount of ram. Probably wont help you, but I've only seen them state that in a random forum post, and it did resolve some other issues I was having. Worth looking into. Edited December 21, 2011 by khaoimon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fellthar Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 For those people saying you have a computer problem with this game, do not listen to those clowns. I am having the same issue with the game. My max frames range from 60 FPS - 85 FPS occasionally. My average frames in the world and in the cities is 15 FPS - 39 FPS. I am a system builder and run my own business. I have tried all different drivers and still get the same results. I have multiple gaming computers and I am having the same problem on most of them. Here are my specs: System #1 GTX 570 in SLI 16GB of Corsair RAM AMD Phenom II X6 1100T Creative Labs Titanium X-Fi 1050 watt Corsair Power Supply Asrock 990FX Extreme 3 System #2 GTX 570 in SLI 16 of Corsair Ram Intel I7 2600K Asrock P67 Fatal1ty Creative Labs Titanium X-Fi 1200 watt PC Power & Cooling Power Supply I play Battlefield 3 on Ultra and get an average frame of 125 FPS - 160 FPS on the AMD. I play many other dx11, dx9, and dx10 games on both systems and max out all my settings. This is the only game that runs like garbage on my AMD. I have tried running the game with only 1 GTX 570 and the results are the same as with both cards in SLI. Summary: The FPS issues with this game are a result of software, not hardware. Either EA or Nvidia/AMD need to fix these video/memory leakage issues. There is no reason why either of my top end systems should ever see 15 - 39 FPS. Even when I turn my graphics on low, I still only get about 10-15 frames more. On low graphics my top end computers still see FPS ranges in the 20 FPS range at times. This is very unacceptable. It is issues like this that cause customers to quit an MMO. I just hope this is fix soon because at times the game is unplayable. I play on a system with a radeon 5770 (also have an older core 2 E6750 and 6 gigs of ram and my hard drives are in raid 0 to squeeze a little more performance out) and I get 25 to 60 fps depending on where I am. My wife has a radeon 6770 with a newer 6 core phenom and gets fps that is roughly the same, maybe a tad better. The gpu is limiting the performance on both pc's. I'm not sure what you were going on about being a "system builder" and owning your own business, but since we are arbitrarily stating our jobs, I am a network admin for a large firm and have been so for the past 6 years. I didn't update my drivers for the game, in fact I have not updated anything on my pc in a long time. The game performs quite well. The lowest fps seems to be when around the hold in the fleet. Drops down to 20 to 25 fps sometimes there. It does seem that a lot of people that are having problems are using SLI or Crossfire. That doesn't surprise me since support for both SLI and Crossfire has been limited and buggy in most games, not to mention the temperature issues that arise. Even I with my measly 5770 have an 8 inch top fan, 2 front fans, 2 back fans, 1 side fan, and my psu fan just to keep my pc cool (and I don't even OC), and it runs at around room temp for the motherboard, and 34 degrees celcius for the 5770 when idle, and nice cool temps around 50 or 60 degrees under load. There is so many variables as to why a pc might not be performing well in a particular game it's crazy. Blaming the software, which performs very well for the vast majority of players, is kinda silly. It performs well on my old rig and that tells me there isn't any real issue with the game itself. Just because BF3 performs well means almost nothing. MMO's are a very different beast and nothing heats up my PC more than WoW (which is not graphically intensive at all), not to mention SLI can be so terrible, and who knows what else might be going on. Just a thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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