Leinadirak Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 How are they in PvP, first day back and thinking of re-rolling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amebia Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 Extremely high damage Extreme utility(carnage) Extreme defensive abilities 100% up time on pretty much any opponent Self-healing(anni spec) Immune to nerfs Completely overpowered Faceroll Enjoy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOULCASTER Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 (edited) Extremely high damage Extreme utility(carnage) Extreme defensive abilities 100% up time on pretty much any opponent Self-healing(anni spec) Immune to nerfs Completely overpowered Faceroll Enjoy! ...There really isn't anything more to say. He hit all of the major topics I was going to discuss. I think we can close this thread now. Edited November 12, 2012 by SOULCASTER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belly Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 (edited) Funny thing is, they've had a few nerfs, like when they could spec force camo to provide full damage immunity. And most people still think they are too powerful. It was crazy back then. Edited November 12, 2012 by Belly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dacer Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 Extremely high damage Extreme utility(carnage) Extreme defensive abilities 100% up time on pretty much any opponent Self-healing(anni spec) Immune to nerfs Completely overpowered Faceroll Enjoy! I see you got killed by a full WH marauder when wearing Columi gear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOULCASTER Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 Funny thing is, they've had a few nerfs, like when they could spec force camo to provide full damage immunity. And most people still think they are too powerful. It was crazy back then. They've had SEVERAL buffs since launch as well. And i think ONLY that 1 nerf that you mentioned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigGregski Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 I see you got killed by a full WH marauder when wearing Columi gear I'm a full WH/EWH shadow tank (a class considered OP by many people and I can kill a reasonably well geared maraudeur ONLY if ALL my cds are up. With my full WH/EWH commando, i barely scratch his skin if i get his attention. Any other class will have great difficulty dealing with him. That's a well known FACT. Period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amebia Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 Too much time pvping on my aug'd bm commando.(gunnery lolol) My points still stand true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dacer Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 I'm a full WH/EWH shadow tank (a class considered OP by many people and I can kill a reasonably well geared maraudeur ONLY if ALL my cds are up. With my full WH/EWH commando, i barely scratch his skin if i get his attention. Any other class will have great difficulty dealing with him. That's a well known FACT. Period. thats funny The only what I can kill a shadow tank is if ALL my CDs are up... including WZ medpac and Adrenal. Snipers are a hard counter to a marauder. And Commandos are not completely broken but they do need some adjustments. But my deception assassin takes down a Commando just as well as my marauder... so Thats a Commando problem not a marauder one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dejavy Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 Fighting maras with my gunslinger feel pretty ok. My commando cries tho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
United_Strafes Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 (edited) I see you got killed by a full WH marauder when wearing Columi gear I see you still have your head in the sand regarding your OP noob class. It is amusing seeing you actually try to argue the facts though! Edited November 13, 2012 by United_Strafes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoliteAssasin Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 I see you got killed by a full WH marauder when wearing Columi gear Haha, the truth finally comes out. we've also had several nerfs. Off the top of my head, nerf to our burn damage (anni/watch) nerf to force camo damage reduction, nerf to gbtf where now you can negate it with 1 stun. What more do you people want? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canarak Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 My response to all of the above, NERF OPERATIVES, enough said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zunayson Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 My response to all of the above, NERF OPERATIVES, enough said This man speaks the truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth-Rammstein Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 Haha, the truth finally comes out. we've also had several nerfs. Off the top of my head, nerf to our burn damage (anni/watch) nerf to force camo damage reduction, nerf to gbtf where now you can negate it with 1 stun. What more do you people want? Well, the derpsmash fotm rerollers have put all the attention on you...so I'd say more nerfs inbound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoliteAssasin Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 Well, the derpsmash fotm rerollers have put all the attention on you...so I'd say more nerfs inbound. I doubt it. Just because everyone rolls one doesnt make it OP. you could say the same for a team of vanguards. Overdose, not overpowered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lintman Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 (edited) People, just stop complaining about Maras and Sents already, yes they killed you because you play a squishy dps that they are good against if you don't want that to happen but still play a dps character play a sniper or gunslinger they are literally a hard counter, or play non-squishy tank class. As a Guardian tank in full war hero if I end up fighting a mara in the same gear as me I'll almost always win, you want to know why? Because all you have to do is look at what stance they are in and then you can predict exactly what they are going to do and all you have to do is interrupt it at the right time and they are useless. When fighting any class it's all about knowing your enemy so you can counter them and honestly what do you expect to happen if you are playing a merc or a powertech dps against a mara, they are your hard counter. Hell this game really boils down to pretty much a rock paper scissors thing with most dps. Merc/Powertech will beat Snipers and Sorcs. Snipers will beat Maras/Juggs and Sorcs. Operatives andAssassins will beat Snipers. Sorcs will beat Operativs andAssassins. Maras/Juggs will beat Sorcs and Merc/Powertech. Not to say player skill doesn't play a roll but the dps classes are mostly balanced and counter each other really well. If you hate maras so much go play a sniper but be prepared to then have a festering hate for Assassins/Operatives. Honestly just stop complaining. Edited November 13, 2012 by Lintman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoliteAssasin Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 (edited) Dude you are way off with your "hard counters" lol. And please do tell me, how are you going to beat a watchman as a guardian tank? What will you interrupt? Edited November 13, 2012 by PoliteAssasin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsiriusNazriel Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 dude you are way off with your "hard counters" lol. And please do tell me, how are you going to beat a watchman as a guardian tank? What will you interrupt? lol, +1! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dejavy Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 People, just stop complaining about Maras and Sents already, yes they killed you because you play a squishy dps that they are good against if you don't want that to happen but still play a dps character play a sniper or gunslinger they are literally a hard counter, or play non-squishy tank class. As a Guardian tank in full war hero if I end up fighting a mara in the same gear as me I'll almost always win, you want to know why? Because all you have to do is look at what stance they are in and then you can predict exactly what they are going to do and all you have to do is interrupt it at the right time and they are useless. When fighting any class it's all about knowing your enemy so you can counter them and honestly what do you expect to happen if you are playing a merc or a powertech dps against a mara, they are your hard counter. Hell this game really boils down to pretty much a rock paper scissors thing with most dps. Merc/Powertech will beat Snipers and Sorcs. Snipers will beat Maras/Juggs and Sorcs. Operatives andAssassins will beat Snipers. Sorcs will beat Operativs andAssassins. Maras/Juggs will beat Sorcs and Merc/Powertech. Not to say player skill doesn't play a roll but the dps classes are mostly balanced and counter each other really well. If you hate maras so much go play a sniper but be prepared to then have a festering hate for Assassins/Operatives. Honestly just stop complaining. BS Merc/powertech will beat snipers and sorcs. Here i was laughing having commando and gunslinger. Commando won't kill anyone in the field unless he finds a column to hide behind. Sorcs kill commandos, snipers kill commandos, everyone does actually. Mara kills every class in the game withouth a serious challenge. Agreed snipers can be a hard counter but killable anyway. Only assasins perhaps can kill maras but not sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoliteAssasin Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 Dps/tank hybrid assassins only. Good ones at that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vacarius Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 (edited) Dude you are way off with your "hard counters" lol. And please do tell me, how are you going to beat a watchman as a guardian tank? What will you interrupt? He's actually spot on. A hard counter is where one class cannot beat another assuming both are of equal skill, something that will always be present to an extent with multiple classes. Note that spec differences may mitigate this somewhat. Examples of hard counters: Snipers to marauders Marauders to mercs Madness sorcs to operatives (assuming they survive/don't get hit by hidden strike+burst) Most dps against most tanks You've missed the point, it doesn't mean every class can counter everyone else, it means some class can't beat others. So you're statement about a guardian being unable to beat a sent actually proves his point. In response to the OP, a marauder would certainly be a fun choice. The story is excellent, and the class mechanic and skills make it very enjoyable. Bear in mind that marauders are considered one of the top classes atm so if you rolled one you may have to change your playstyle if the class gets a serious nerf. I'd personally prefer other classes to get buffed up, but Bioware seems to favour nerfs over this. Edited November 13, 2012 by Vacarius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoliteAssasin Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 Equal skilled sniper to an equal skilled sent/Mara the sniper will always lose. Sorry to break it to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vacarius Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 (edited) Equal skilled sniper to an equal skilled sent/Mara the sniper will always lose. Sorry to break it to you. I'd disagree completely, but regardless you have proven his point about hard counters, the only question now is what is a counter to what. Unless mthe marauders on my server are horrible (I severely doubt that), snipers have the clear advantage in a one on one. Debilitate on UD, roots on cover pulse and leg shot, massive burst, flashbang to regain range and immunity to ravage make them the clear victor. That said, I don't play either class so my tactics of how to play it may be off. Edited November 13, 2012 by Vacarius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackNader Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 (edited) The only hard counter I've seen in this game is a pure tank sin vs a maul sin. Maul sin will get his *** beat down while taking basically no damage. No I take that back.. pretty much every class vs merc lol! Edited November 13, 2012 by JackNader Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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