Malkavier Posted August 12, 2012 Share Posted August 12, 2012 For certain ACs, I would swap out Expertise for Accuracy - PTs/Maras I know at least require 105% Accuracy rating to counter debuffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madnutter Posted August 12, 2012 Share Posted August 12, 2012 For certain ACs, I would swap out Expertise for Accuracy - PTs/Maras I know at least require 105% Accuracy rating to counter debuffs. Accuracy has nothing to do with it, there's no way you can swap expertise for accuracy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anwg Posted August 12, 2012 Share Posted August 12, 2012 some wh mods/enh have more exp than others. I think it's a 5 exp swing for an extra side stat. I don't remember exactly. but there are minor decisions like that to be made (mind you, main stat and end also swing on said mods, so you *might* exchange hp for exp). No all WH mods have the same expertise. You can get to around 1370 if you dual wield, but that's the current max. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SweetOldBob Posted August 12, 2012 Share Posted August 12, 2012 Over 1000 it has a soft cap. It gradually has more diminishing returns over 1100. Over 1200, adding more expertise barely does any benefit. This does not agree with the graph I've seen. In that graph, the benefits of expertise continue to accrue at a darn-near constant rate well past 2500. I have heard, but cannot verify, that there is a discrete bump or step up benefit that occurs at 1100, so that should be regarded as a minimum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SweetOldBob Posted August 12, 2012 Share Posted August 12, 2012 Here is a link that shows the stat benefits. Graphs at bottom of first post http://mmo-mechanics.com/swtor/forums/thread-998.html As you can see the benefit from expertise scales quite well past 2500 (not that you can get that high). this ^^^ And oops, I should have read the entire thread before replying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SweetOldBob Posted August 12, 2012 Share Posted August 12, 2012 I think that those graphs outline stat data from before 1.2. Could be wrong though. The graphs I saw had separate curves for 1.1 and 1.2. I don't know if there was any change to expertise in 1.3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akatoshia Posted August 12, 2012 Share Posted August 12, 2012 The graphs I saw had separate curves for 1.1 and 1.2. I don't know if there was any change to expertise in 1.3. I guess I was referring to whoever posted the link in this thread. Those graphs (with the DRs for all stats) were originally posted in a thread from 2011, and the data for expertise was from 1.1, not 1.2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SweetOldBob Posted August 12, 2012 Share Posted August 12, 2012 I guess I was referring to whoever posted the link in this thread. Those graphs (with the DRs for all stats) were originally posted in a thread from 2011, and the data for expertise was from 1.1, not 1.2. here's the graph I was referring to: expertise in 1.1 and 1.2 I saved a link to the graph, but not to the thread and the author. Mea culpa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSolidPat Posted August 12, 2012 Share Posted August 12, 2012 I went from stock full WH with 1332 expertise to my new optimized gear 1211 expertise. Basically do not use the WH belt and bracers. They have crappy stats and building your own with legacy gear greatly improves your stats, while cutting off the useless expertise. I can guarantee you 1211 expertise + crafter belt and bracers is much better than the 1332 stock Wh gear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthSabreth Posted August 12, 2012 Share Posted August 12, 2012 or a better way try it on a WZ training dummy ahnd swap out pve gear with pvp gear with the same base stats minus / pluss the expertise. have the gear at maxumum possible expertise at the end of the test and see what the highes dps that you can do. the only thing is, is do we know how much expertise the training dummy has to simulate damage reduction or does it scale to your stats? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidichIorian Posted August 12, 2012 Share Posted August 12, 2012 (edited) Mixing PvE with PvP gear is feasible for some ACs, but not for others. I wouldn't recommend it for any of the Sorcerer/Sage trees as you won't live long enough for that extra DPS/HPS to be worth it. You are squishy AND a primary attack target. I would argue the opposite. The hits sages/sorcs take are so big that expertise reduction is rendered moot. It simply doesnt matter if you sit on 19 % or 17 %, you will die just as fast. The min/maxing you can do, through BH mods, by sacrificing expertise in that 2 % range is however affecting dps/hps significally. I personally think it's better to gear for up time. I went from stock full WH with 1332 expertise to my new optimized gear 1211 expertise. Basically do not use the WH belt and bracers. They have crappy stats and building your own with legacy gear greatly improves your stats, while cutting off the useless expertise. I can guarantee you 1211 expertise + crafter belt and bracers is much better than the 1332 stock Wh gear. This, the belt alone with net you +30'ish main stat. Edited August 12, 2012 by MidichIorian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funkiestj Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 I went from stock full WH with 1332 expertise to my new optimized gear 1211 expertise. Basically do not use the WH belt and bracers. They have crappy stats and building your own with legacy gear greatly improves your stats, while cutting off the useless expertise. I can guarantee you 1211 expertise + crafter belt and bracers is much better than the 1332 stock Wh gear. please post more information. what are the stats of each gear item swapped along with your full character stats with one set equipped? According to my spreadsheet, the boost for going from expertise 1211 to 1332 in 1.2 (and 1.3) is: dmg boost: +1.607%dmg reduction: 1.0511%healing boost 0.9236% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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