YanksfanJP Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 (edited) Your right, at least the first time they do it. How many times has it been now... 3, 4+ plus removing ranked warzones from 1.2 because they realized it didnt work, not to mention the rubbish armor designs, the epic loading screens (and my comp runs with all graphics on high seamlessly), even with all settigns on low. The lack of open world pvp, the failure of ilum. need i go on? this is most definitely incompetence Those all may be signs of incompetence, but extended maintenance is not. If you want to complain about them failing because of those other epic gaffes, go right ahead. I won't stop you. But don't complain that extended maintenance is sign of failure, because that's just ignorance. You're just looking for stuff to complain about. Oh, and you're, not your. Edited June 26, 2012 by YanksfanJP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonoku Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 anyone experiencing any loading screen issues? I am. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coolaid Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 you guys must hate WOW a lot then, that game was full of extended maintenances. lol..."hey it's going to be another two hours guys".......two hours later, "hey guys, yeah another 2 hours" .....so on, and so on. I remember a 12 hour extended once. In 2 hour increments Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
APNTerra Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 Those all may be signs of incompetence, but extended maintenance is not. If you want to complain about them failing because of those other epic gaffes, go right ahead. I won't stop you. But don't complain that extended maintenance is sign of failure, because it's not. You're just looking for stuff to complain about. Oh, and you're, not your. It is a sign when they do it every time. I do not need to look for things to complain about because the game literally has a list printed on the screen. error error error error error bug bug bug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeismicShock Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 OMG... imagine that BioWare is just like NCSOFT, Blizzard or Trion... all 3 of those companies post updates on Twitter BEFORE posting anything official on their website. OH THE HUMANITY OF IT ALL! Thanks for the random flame. No, what I think everyone is looking for is that BioWare would note that this kind of stuff isn't exactly the best way to go about it all. NCSoft and Blizzard are both outdated for their main games, that's the problem BW had when it copied WoW piece by piece. BW is copying games that are years old, much like their launch people were hoping that these screwed up trends would be left with previous games. BW's Launch went smoothly and near flawless, I'm sure people expected them to hold true to that ideal and apply it to everything else they did. So answer me this, how can BioWare launch the game with almost no issues at all yet a 300 MB patch turns into extended maintenance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderVamp Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 anyone experiencing any loading screen issues? I am. No, but my patching failed so now it's repairing 11 files and looks like it's gonna take at least a couple hours to do that at the rate it's going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
APNTerra Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 No, but my patching failed so now it's repairing 11 files and looks like it's gonna take at least a couple hours to do that at the rate it's going. also having this issue, instand download, 3 hours to install. failed to install, starts over... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkDruidSS Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 Thanks for the random flame. No, what I think everyone is looking for is that BioWare would note that this kind of stuff isn't exactly the best way to go about it all. NCSoft and Blizzard are both outdated for their main games, that's the problem BW had when it copied WoW piece by piece. BW is copying games that are years old, much like their launch people were hoping that these screwed up trends would be left with previous games. BW's Launch went smoothly and near flawless, I'm sure people expected them to hold true to that ideal and apply it to everything else they did. So answer me this, how can BioWare launch the game with almost no issues at all yet a 300 MB patch turns into extended maintenance? Because patchs do more than meets the eye. It's nothing new. All patches in EVERY MMO UNDER THE SUN.... screw up something. It's just life as a gamer and a developer. It's impossible to thoroughly test every single line of code before implementation. Hence why bugs are still around in WoW that were there at release. Thousands of lines of code... where is the one that threw something off? Who knows? People need to stop thinking this is like back in the day with 16mb games that had maybe 400 lines of code max. The new age games are rediciously huge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dekeonus Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 Your right, at least the first time they do it. How many times has it been now... 3, 4+ plus removing ranked warzones from 1.2 because they realized it didnt work, not to mention the rubbish armor designs, the epic loading screens (and my comp runs with all graphics on high seamlessly), even with all settigns on low. The lack of open world pvp, the failure of ilum. need i go on? this is most definitely incompetence Those all may be signs of incompetence, but extended maintenance is not. If you want to complain about them failing because of those other epic gaffes, go right ahead. I won't stop you. But don't complain that extended maintenance is sign of failure, because that's just ignorance. You're just looking for stuff to complain about. Oh, and you're, not your. Umm extended maintenance is a sign of failure - a sign the release / project manager failed to understand the roll-out / the product / or their teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FourTwent Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 So, why is it that you rush a patch out earlier than you should, then spend an extra 3 hours + trying to get it to work? Can you explain that one to us please Bioware? you should cry about it some more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonoku Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 How am I even suppose to purchase legacy stuff without my legacies merged? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YanksfanJP Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 Umm extended maintenance is a sign of failure - a sign the release / project manager failed to understand the roll-out / the product / or their teams. Because nothing unexpected ever comes up in the world of computer programming. Get over yourselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VarKoE Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 Umm extended maintenance is a sign of failure - a sign the release / project manager failed to understand the roll-out / the product / or their teams. Actually no its not. They even mentioned it could go longer in their press release. However, this field always can use talented and driven individuals. There are many industries (not just games) that do utilize these types of folks. If you are really interested and think your good enough jump on in. Its good work albiet frustrating at times. As far the variable time, lots of reasons. Enterprise level source code management is very complex. Nothing unusual here. Just to many variables to predict a precise time unless it something simple like a server restart. That can be predicted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GalacticKegger Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 (edited) It is a sign when they do it every time. I do not need to look for things to complain about because the game literally has a list printed on the screen. error error error error error bug bug bugA bit over the top me thinks. (OK, way over the top.) Perhaps upgrading to a WinXP Dell XPS720 pos like I play on might help. I get no errors and the patch took all of about 5 minutes to load. The roughest thing I encountered was having to reallocate skill points on my JKs. [edit] One had to figure the astroturfing water army would be out in force today. Predictable as sunrise. Edited June 27, 2012 by GalacticKegger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dekeonus Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 Actually no its not. They even mentioned it could go longer in their press release. However, this field always can use talented and driven individuals. There are many industries (not just games) that do utilize these types of folks. If you are really interested and think your good enough jump on in. Its good work albiet frustrating at times. As far the variable time, lots of reasons. Enterprise level source code management is very complex. Nothing unusual here. Just to many variables to predict a precise time unless it something simple like a server restart. That can be predicted. While not a project manager I have been managed by several, and know several either working for or having worked for big enterprise. I knew the 4hr maintenance window was very unlikely to met, why was that time frame posted? None of the project mangers I know or have known would report optimistic time frames. They would report realistic time frames and would not be talked / bullied into entertaining discussion with their superiors about best case timeframe for delivery, only most likely timeframe for delivery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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