Spankyjnco Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 They launched with 1.8M people roughly correct? Numbers now say 1.3M Subscribers. At launch, they did not have European servers up. If you look at the number 1.3M now, that DOES include Europe subscribers as well. I am assuming there would be at LEAST 300-400k subscribers in Europe currently. (Anyone have the correct number for this?) So if we take them out of the current sub total of 1.3, we would be at 950kish if not less depending on how many subs are added in from the Europe side. That is roughly half of the subs gone, more if you count the amount of people that have started playing since launch that weren't included in the original 1.8. So that's after a 5 month run so far correct? Theres still plenty more losses to be had. EA's press release for Q4 earnings and planning shows that the game is on a downward spike for revenue... and that there is 2 expansions (whether that would be paid or free updates like 1.2) coming in Q1 (Business Q1, aka Q4 for us so the end of 2012). Whats your take on all this information? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shellyn Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 question is not how many subscribers currently are... for me the question is, how many of those actually play the game... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theology Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 ^ This. Oh and dont forget the free month they gave everyone is also included. The real numbers wont come out until next quarter, assuming they dont give more free time to inflate the numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSIlverSurfing Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 question is not how many subscribers currently are... for me the question is, how many of those actually play the game... Yeah 400k sounds like a lot, but going by what I saw in game and by TorServer Stats this next quarter will be armageddon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shellyn Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 shame... they ruined a game with HUGE potential.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jett-Rinn Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 shame... they ruined a game with HUGE potential.... Yeah 19.5 million dollars a month is such a failure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mothermonterr Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 game this huge only making that much compared to what it could be making if they weren't such fails when it comes to handling this game. Yeah, it's bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shellyn Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 Yeah 19.5 million dollars a month is such a failure. And that's not what bio/ea had in mind, numbers are killing them... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilCanuck Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 Um, they had European servers at launch... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eillack Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 game this huge only making that much compared to what it could be making if they weren't such fails when it comes to handling this game. Yeah, it's bad. So far only the players are the fails that I've noticed sinse launch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theology Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 Um, they had European servers at launch... He's referring to the launches in the new 38 countries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mothermonterr Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 So far only the players are the fails that I've noticed sinse launch. yeah judging how you spelled since, i would have to agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandma Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 (edited) Sorry, you appear to be confused. I assume you mean the APAC servers not being up at launch. EU servers were up at the same time as the US ones when the game was launched, give or take an hour whilst they turned them all on. I was in Early Access from day one and was on a european server. APAC may have a load of subs on them - but most were subbed on different servers before those servers launched - hence the whole transfer and fuss. Also, subscriber numbers of 1.8million were prior to APAC officially launching - so those are certainly not the subs you are looking for. 1.8 million = US/EU only 1.3 million = US/EU/APAC I don't believe they've long launched in the other 38 new territories or haven't done so for long, so not sure whether those would be included in them With that bearing in mind, I don't think there's much point to this thread as that is what it seems to be about in terms of differentiating it from the other tons of threads on a similar vein today. Edited May 8, 2012 by Grandma Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zataos Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 I would say, looking at the numbers that they have lost about 50% of their active subs, probably 60% when multi-month subs run out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mesharah Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 shame... they ruined a game with HUGE potential.... Tis the fate of ALL SW games. I really wish there is something they can do other than go F2P. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celebrus Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 He's referring to the launches in the new 38 countries. Which are not included in this report, at all. Neither are the free months. But why bother with facts when fallacies make your argument look better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saltydogg Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 Yeah 19.5 million dollars a month is such a failure. it is when you spent 300 million to develop it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vojinsa Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 With message boards, comes whining...with whining comes more whining...with more whining...comes even more whining..... Sometimes to gain buffs and nerf everyone else... one must go to a message board and whine... applies to all MMO's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juleanden Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 shame... they ruined a game with HUGE potential.... not true this game is far from ruined, it still has huge potential if not even bigger since it seems thier devs is going backwards. all the game needs is qualifyed leadership from the dev team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parali Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 Greetings, We understand that the recent EA earnings call is a topic of high interest to our community. There are already a couple of threads on this subject, so you may want to join one of these conversations, already in progress: Investor Call:http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=447688 Subscriptions: http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=448029 We will be closing this thread now. Thank you for your feedback! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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