Twaggy Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 Personally the OP is either trying to cause a flame war, is (no offence) not having a clue what is going on or is racist lol The US has had the most attention than any other country, and just so you know. This is a world universal forum and not just for the US, so calling us "foreign countries" is wrong on a world forum. Either way, this whole thread is silly. Yes EU is getting some love right now, but that might have something to do with the game getting released to the rest of EU at last. As for the problems regarding servers, it's not just US servers that have a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krenum Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 Yes I'm sure every single last developer working on SWTOR is now working on getting Asia Pacific and Middle Eastern server setup. They certainly wouldn't have different teams working on that while another group continues working on US servers... Yes that would never happen /end sarcasm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ensquire Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 Server set up is actually handled by IT and not the developer Yes I'm sure every single last developer working on SWTOR is now working on getting Asia Pacific and Middle Eastern server setup. They certainly wouldn't have different teams working on that while another group continues working on US servers... Yes that would never happen /end sarcasm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malastare Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 I am not going to go into specifics but there are issues facing dozens of U.S. Servers atm. There are several threads you can discuss those in. I am frustrated that content we were promised was put off, the test server isn't back up, and 90% of the Devs attention atm is Europe, Middle East, and Asia. Hold on. You mean... you think that the same guys who are working on the game engine code to support rated warzones are the guys who set up marketing contracts with retailers in foreign countries? Because that's... uh... yeah... You'd have to be... uh... That's not how it's done. If you honestly believe that someone stopped working on game code to set up game distribution in Eastern Europe, then you should just walk away from your keyboard for a while. Go play the game. Or watch TV. Or work. Or whatever. Just don't try to argue this point because its clear you have next to zero understanding about how games --or software in general-- is actually made. There are hundreds of people involved in making this game. A few dozen of them probably work on the core game code. Those people, they don't care where the game is sold, or where the servers are located, or even what server populations are like. They just code the game. And they keep coding the game, regardless of what countries or servers or alien civilizations show up to play it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ensquire Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 This thread is based on fear and opinion and not on fact... Developers create content and fix misc bugs... The IT department handles communication and server set up. The European expansion is handled by a team in Europe (because the servers are based out of Europe) and the US developers that are in charge of patching and creating new content are not in anyway involved with this expansion This thread represents your opinion and not fact Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirjava Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 So from Dec 20-April 26th, US/Canada were a priority We were first for the launch of TOR The downtimes are in favour of North America For the most part of the Beta, there weren't many EU servers and yet you still have the balls to complain about Bioware finally turning their attention to Asia, Middle East and Europe who should have gotten the attention way before now? Aye aye eye Well put. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthTHC Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 It's business. They've achieved the easy market penetration in the US. Getting additional subscribers (or even keeping current ones) takes work at this point. (And they seem to be doing some of that work.) There is easy money in new countries. They're going after it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkhosis Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 All about the $$$$$. New box sales will outweigh US subs by a wide margin. Then they'll have subs world wide after it's all said and done. Business is business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocNessMonster Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 (edited) Fact is Bioware is looking to cash in on a new market that maybe more forgiving then us westerners. Can you really blame them all they hear from us is how their game sucks for this and that reason? New optimistic market > jaded western mmo market. It's not just the US that suffers, the entire game suffers while they add new localizations. Edited April 26, 2012 by RocNessMonster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kthx Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 (edited) But it doesn't help the fact that it's prime time for Europe though right? No. Prime time in Europe is 10 am CDT to 8 pm CDT (see http://www.torstatus.net/tomb-of-freedon-nadd/history/7d#!/tomb-of-freedon-nadd/24h/7d). The maintenance window is 2 am CDT to 6 am CDT. So the maintenance window occurs before the European peak. Edited April 26, 2012 by Kthx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaje Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 euros > dollars. but i'm with you 100%... specially the problem with intense crashing since 1.2 thats been a real problem for me as well since 1.2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jedip_enguin Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 I have to admit, this made me chuckle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dozer Posted April 26, 2012 Author Share Posted April 26, 2012 The truth is this game is developed in the United States, so why wouldn't it release in US first, maintenance schedule be set around U.S. time frames, etc.. Half the U.S. servers are barron wastelands that people confuse for single player games. This issue has been on going for atleast 2 months, and there is no end in sight to a resolution. The developers failed to release promised content making the server population dive even farther down. Instead of appearing to work harder,faster to get the content out they are just working on pulling in more money from the rest of the world. Is it worth paying $15 a month with broken/missing content in a single player game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Seven Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 The OP does not speak for all Americans. I am happy to see other regions around the world receiving much needed attention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IGX_ Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 Sorry, everything doesn't revolve around the US you know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ensquire Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 Your so right my man, not only did you make this thread, but nailed it right on the head because the fact remains that the developers have nothing to do with the expansion in European markets. Not only is this handled by a team in Europe, it's handled by an IT team. And i absolutely agree with you about the decline in server drop, i mean update 1.2 only brought my server up to a meager 200 at peak times, and i mean really, the content they added. I can't do anything with the new missions, ops, or planet missions. Oh and the new armor sets... Pthhhh... please don't get me started. I can't wait for wow to come out with MoP so you can finally be happy playing a real MMO with panda bears. Enjoy The truth is this game is developed in the United States, so why wouldn't it release in US first, maintenance schedule be set around U.S. time frames, etc.. Half the U.S. servers are barron wastelands that people confuse for single player games. This issue has been on going for atleast 2 months, and there is no end in sight to a resolution. The developers failed to release promised content making the server population dive even farther down. Instead of appearing to work harder,faster to get the content out they are just working on pulling in more money from the rest of the world. Is it worth paying $15 a month with broken/missing content in a single player game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faeldawn Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 Just take a look at the Dev tracker where 90% of the posts for the last week don't relate to fixing any issues with the game currently. I don't see any post about whats being done to fix the issue with the U.S servers making all but a handful of them so unappealing. They don't appear to be making it a priority, asking questions, polling us, engaging in conversations about it. What on earth are you blathering about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goulet Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 the only substantial thing non us players have received that we haven't is server transfers. It's hard to complain about that one, although us servers do have population issues, we unlike those other countries can play on servers in our local region those in australia had to roll on us servers. we can play in our own time zones, for them to do that would mean playing on asian servers (language barrier). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pathlight- Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 The truth is this game is developed in the United States, so why wouldn't it release in US first, maintenance schedule be set around U.S. time frames, etc.. Half the U.S. servers are barron wastelands that people confuse for single player games. This issue has been on going for atleast 2 months, and there is no end in sight to a resolution. The developers failed to release promised content making the server population dive even farther down. Instead of appearing to work harder,faster to get the content out they are just working on pulling in more money from the rest of the world. Is it worth paying $15 a month with broken/missing content in a single player game? More money is to be made outside the U.S. So, pay 25$ per month or be in the same boat as us lowly foreigners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NinjaApacHe Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 (edited) Just take a look at the Dev tracker where 90% of the posts for the last week don't relate to fixing any issues with the game currently. I don't see any post about whats being done to fix the issue with the U.S servers making all but a handful of them so unappealing. They don't appear to be making it a priority, asking questions, polling us, engaging in conversations about it. The bugs are equal everywhere, what the hell are you talking about? Your post is really meaningless. All the servers are in the same boat, and as your countrymate said before, you get better maintenance timetable, better events accessibility and so on. Edited April 26, 2012 by NinjaApacHe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faeldawn Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 The truth is this game is developed in the United States, so why wouldn't it release in US first, maintenance schedule be set around U.S. time frames, etc.. Half the U.S. servers are barron wastelands that people confuse for single player games. This issue has been on going for atleast 2 months, and there is no end in sight to a resolution. The developers failed to release promised content making the server population dive even farther down. Instead of appearing to work harder,faster to get the content out they are just working on pulling in more money from the rest of the world. Is it worth paying $15 a month with broken/missing content in a single player game? It's no different in the EU, we have many dead servers. You think this is a problem only with the US? Wrong! Also i deeply dislike your xenophobic use of the phrase "foreign" to describe all non-US servers, were not "foreign" we have our own servers in our own continents. We are no lesser customers than any American subscriber yet we are treated as second class citizens by Bioware quite often. US gets almost all priorities when it comes to patching and downtimes. Often they do this smack in the middle of primetime in other time zones. To coin an American phrase "Swing and a miss!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ensquire Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 The bugs are equal everywhere, what the hell are you talking about? Your post is really meaningless. All the servers are in the same boat, and as your countrymate said before, you get better maintenance timetable, better events accessibility and so on. Totally agree with you they patch and fix bugs every week Don't understand this guy at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
utio Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 The truth is this game is developed in the United States, so why wouldn't it release in US first, maintenance schedule be set around U.S. time frames, etc.. Half the U.S. servers are barron wastelands that people confuse for single player games. This issue has been on going for atleast 2 months, and there is no end in sight to a resolution. The developers failed to release promised content making the server population dive even farther down. Instead of appearing to work harder,faster to get the content out they are just working on pulling in more money from the rest of the world. Is it worth paying $15 a month with broken/missing content in a single player game? If half the us servers are baron wastelands, why would they focus all their attention on the us? And assuming what you say is true, then can we get downtimes changed please, because quite clearly, there are hardly any us players playing anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faeldawn Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 the only substantial thing non us players have received that we haven't is server transfers. It's hard to complain about that one, although us servers do have population issues, we unlike those other countries can play on servers in our local region those in australia had to roll on us servers. we can play in our own time zones, for them to do that would mean playing on asian servers (language barrier). Just to clarify the server transfers were extremely limited and only for players in timezones where new servers were finally set up for the first time some months after release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Ravenhurst Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 Oh my, the EU servers are even worse and it feels like 90% are deserted and 10% are standard to occasionally heavy. I´d be happy if BW would focus more on the EU servers but this is not the case, although the EUR cash is very welcome to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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