Laurreth Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 (edited) The ONE thing I've been looking forward to was to rip the set boni out of the abysmally ugly PvP gear and stick it in some decent low-level orange stuff. Same for the "LOOK MA I'M WEARING TURTLES ON MY HANDS AND A SAILBOAT ON MY HEAD!" Consular Columni crap. Guess what, NEITHER of those sets seems to have their set boni tied to the armor mod. Now I'm 150k credits down, have probably grinded away my desire to play warzones with the community of quitters and zergers on Jar'kai Sword just to get a new Battlemaster tunic for what appears to be nothing. What "endgame" armor does that mechanic apply to? Is there anything useful that doesn't require months of grind? Edited April 15, 2012 by Laurreth Was more expensive that I first thought Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PacificaSolaria Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 (edited) I guess you didn't see the memo. No pre-1.2 items has the armor set bonus tied to mods, only post 1.2 sets. Edited April 15, 2012 by PacificaSolaria Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurreth Posted April 15, 2012 Author Share Posted April 15, 2012 FWIW, the "memo" read like the change applied to set items bought after 1.2, not just new sets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illgot Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 FWIW, the "memo" read like the change applied to set items bought after 1.2, not just new sets. this is how I read it. Oh well, I guess our Orange Mod system is still useless for changing our appearance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RolyartNala Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 (edited) I did the same thing. Communication on this issue from devs was not good. But you know what? Screw it---I'll wear what I like without the set bonuses. Losing 5 extra energy or an extra second on Dodge is not going to suddenly make me start losing a bunch of fights. These aren't WoW set bonuses that are so good that they change how you prioritize your actions. They hardly matter in most fights, actually. Edited April 15, 2012 by RolyartNala Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atlen Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 I did the same thing. Communication on this issue from devs was not good. But you know what? Screw it---I'll wear what I like without the set bonuses. Losing 5 extra energy or an extra second on Dodge is not going to suddenly make me start losing a bunch of fights. These aren't WoW set bonuses that are so good that they change how you prioritize your actions. They hardly matter in most fights, actually. I panicked until I found this out. Good point man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bartes Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 FWIW, the "memo" read like the change applied to set items bought after 1.2, not just new sets. wrong, only WH and new OP gear has set bonus attached to armor. You can buy full BM post 1.2 and transfer all mods to orange gear and you WIL NOT have set bonus. I bought 2 BM parts post 1.2 and put mods in augmented orange BM and no set bonus. Sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurreth Posted April 16, 2012 Author Share Posted April 16, 2012 (edited) These aren't WoW set bonuses that are so good that they change how you prioritize your actions. They hardly matter in most fights, actually. That's true, but it seems rather short-sighted that the boni weren't moved to the mods, seeing how the items themselves were completely rewritten anyway. At least for the Consular/Whateverthedarksidehashere they're nice to have with a 3 second (that's >10%) reduction of the absorb bubble lockout and a small HoT for Noble Sacrifice. Edited April 16, 2012 by Laurreth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supZ Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 not that i know anything about mmo development but i am a software developer. it seems strange to just allow this on 'new' gear when in the way you'd normally code this would in fact require 'more' work than just allowing it on all. but i do know they work off a lot of spreadsheets rather than just code so i guess they'd have to change every set in the game (not that there's 'that' many) rather than being able to write one reusable piece of code for the lot. but what do i know either way its very irritating and not well mentioned at all. i only know this from being told by 1 person in guild and even though i said it multiple times i augment crafted warhero gear for a friend he went and tried to change his mods last night then complained when the set bonus didnt move over. i really hope BW add this functionality to all sets, there is really nothing to lose or gain for anyone other than changing their looks so please, let the masses do this. cant even make it look like you've got better gear than you already have, at least with pvp items, as the crafted gear is still valor bound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunny_Bun Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 (edited) FYI The plural of bonus is bonuses The word derives from Latin. If we were talking in Latin the plural would be 'bona'. However we are talking in English and so the plural is 'bonuses'. 'Boni' is not correct in either language. Moreover, in the context in which you are using the word - where you are talking about the armour bonus being transferable with the mod, I think you need to take special care over whether you need to use the singular or the plural: (for example) 1) "The set bonus does not move with the mod" (is singular) OR 2) "When removing mods the set bonuses do not follow" (is plural) Thank you and please carry on. Edited April 16, 2012 by Hunny_Bun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtfnonamefree Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 (edited) FYI The plural of bonus is bonuses The word derives from Latin. If we were talking in Latin the plural would be 'bona'. However we are talking in English and so the plural is 'bonuses'. 'Boni' is not correct in either language. In english, you might be right. In latin you are partly wrong. Bona is the plural of 'good things', but bonum would be the singular of that. As the use of bonus (good man) is prevalent, the plural actually is boni - but this didn't transfer to the english language (as opposed to other languages like italian and german). Both words are nominalizations of the adjective bonus, -a, -um and each has its own plural ofc. When you say bonus, you gotta stick with boni (in latin, not english). Boni is totally correct in Latin and many other languages, just not in english.^^ Edited April 16, 2012 by wtfnonamefree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serbegorn Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 That's true, but it seems rather short-sighted that the boni weren't moved to the mods, seeing how the items themselves were completely rewritten anyway. At least for the Consular/Whateverthedarksidehashere they're nice to have with a 3 second (that's >10%) reduction of the absorb bubble lockout and a small HoT for Noble Sacrifice. "Boni" /snicker I'm picturing something completely different than what you intended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HopeSlayer Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 FYI The plural of bonus is bonuses The word derives from Latin. If we were talking in Latin the plural would be 'bona'. However we are talking in English and so the plural is 'bonuses'. 'Boni' is not correct in either language. Moreover, in the context in which you are using the word - where you are talking about the armour bonus being transferable with the mod, I think you need to take special care over whether you need to use the singular or the plural: (for example) 1) "The set bonus does not move with the mod" (is singular) OR 2) "When removing mods the set bonuses do not follow" (is plural) Thank you and please carry on. Seriously...you interject all that into a conversation about set bonuses but don't even comment on the OP's post? /smh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunny_Bun Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 In english, you might be right. In latin you are partly wrong. Bona is the plural of 'good things', but bonum would be the singular of that. As the use of bonus (good man) is prevalent, the plural actually is boni - but this didn't transfer to the english language (as opposed to other languages like italian and german). Both words are nominalizations of the adjective bonus, -a, -um and each has its own plural ofc. When you say bonus, you gotta stick with boni (in latin, not english). Boni is totally correct in Latin and many other languages, just not in english.^^ Yes I see. I took the English use of 'bonus' to mean 'good thing' (thus it is a corruption of bonum). Thus the plural bona. Bonus doesn't (as far as I am aware) in English ever have the usage of 'good man' which it had in Latin. So I focused on the meaning of the English word and the plural of its Latin counterpart. But your point is very interesting and raises I think the question of why English doesn't have a word for 'good man' Thus leaving us all intellectually excited and me in the rather glorius position of still being right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KupoTime Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 Would denying the set bonus on say..Jedi Knight for instance really effect end-game performance? I'd really rather just make myself look how I want with orange gear I actually own. Not a huge fan of the end-game sets, but don't want to hold groups back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunny_Bun Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 Seriously...you interject all that into a conversation about set bonuses but don't even comment on the OP's post? /smh I thought that a grammar lesson might be more fun than another silly 'bash the devs' thread. My bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtfnonamefree Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 I thoroughly enjoyed it. OT: I just hope, that they decided/managed to get a fix into tomorrow's patch, that makes every set bonus tied to the armoring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sambril Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 Be afraid. Your high school English teacher is in your threads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurreth Posted April 16, 2012 Author Share Posted April 16, 2012 but i do know they work off a lot of spreadsheets rather than just code so i guess they'd have to change every set in the game (not that there's 'that' many) rather than being able to write one reusable piece of code for the lot. True, and then there's the intern who writes the tooltips and gets it wrong all the time That general area has been producing a lot of bugs reeking of weak design. i really hope BW add this functionality to all sets, there is really nothing to lose or gain for anyone other than changing their looks so please, let the masses do this. Except now it'd be really hard to pull off, since people have already ripped the old mods from the bonus-encrusted shells, so no matter what, people would be sad about the way it's handled. Virusiiæ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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