chumppi Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 (edited) Stealing a line from reddit: BioWare HQ: "I have altered the deal, pray I do not alter it any further" Edited April 12, 2012 by chumppi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwgagner Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 (edited) Do you know how complex this stuff is? You're just eating the company line man. Each person who says they're an "adult" and posts in this thread loses credibility. Did you just lose credibility by posting in this thread o.O? The universe is going to implode. Edited April 12, 2012 by dwgagner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shingara Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 (edited) Should not spring such news on your player-base at the last minute to grab a month's worth of subs though. Who says they did it purposly, do you think this was a master plan or something, there is every possibilty that bioware thought they could fix it for the patch, they found out it wasnt possible and informed us. The fact that they waited so late shows that there were working hammer and tong to try and make it work but couldnt. But here is the question, do you want something that works or something that doesnt. Edited April 12, 2012 by Shingara Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jandi Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 (edited) I think the biggest issue here is that all of us that were really looking forward to rated warzones just feel lied to.. I have never seen a developer be so unprofessional in my 10+ years of playing MMO's. I'm not trying to sound snide or anything, but you must have not played many MMO's. I could write a rather long list of things that the devs of many games have said that simply wasn't true or that they just went ahead and removed features without any warning. My lesson from SWG was: Never expect anything, believe anything, count on anything or anticipate anything. When a game developer just deletes something you've put months into without any compensation, you kinda learn not to care because you will only be disappointed. Edited April 12, 2012 by Jandi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King_Fenny Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 Wow, Bioware. Epic failure on your part. Unbelievable.You guys have teased us for weeks about ranked warzones coming out in 1.2 patch for weeks and now less than 12 hours to go I see this ****.Sorry guys for us telling you lies but we had to do it so you would not quit the game.Grats you guys are about to become the next rift if you keep this up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceGaunt Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 Don't even bother trying to convince them. No one is going to sue BW over this. Anyone that does would be laughed out of court. I learned a long time ago, never argue with stupid people. They bring you down to their level and beat you with experience. Omg, you are quoted. Awesome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angelgarcia Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 I am still happy that 1.2 is still coming out and like they said it going to come out before 1.3 sooooooo I am still subbed this game is amazing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vulup Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 Who says they did it purposly, do you think this was a master plan or something, there is every possibilty that bioware thought they could fix it for the patch, they found out it wasnt possible and informed us. The fact that they waited so late shows that there were working hammer and tong to try and make it work but couldnt. Sorry to say i am on the other side of the fence on that - especially since they have no real ETA for ranked Warzones at this time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shingara Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 I'm not trying to sound snide or anything, but you must have not played many MMO's. I could write a rather long list of things that the devs of many games have said that simply wasn't true or that they just went ahead and removed features without any warning. My lesson from SWG was: Never expect anything, believe anything, count on anything or anticipate anything. When a game developer just deletes something you've put months into without any compensation, you kinda learn not to care because you will only be disappointed. Yup there are many records in the mmo history of much worse, swg is a prime example, jtl hits and bang change the game majorly, another expantion and nge. Even wow, look at path of the titans and the slew of other things announced one blizzcon and then the next time none of it was real and we were all dreaming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonedform Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 Bioware: you have ONE MONTH to deliver RANKED CROSS SERVER WARZONES. If you don't, all the people you baited into re-subbing under the guise of rated pvp in 1.2 will never come back, and servers will collectively die. You have stated yourself you have no plans for server consolidation, which means that without the re-subbed playerbase coming back and staying, the game is dead. One month. I hope you know what you're doing. All signs suggest you don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VarisRoa Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 wow... does EA/bioware not know how important that patch is? What do you think our arguments were to guildies, friends, familiy and for ourselves to justify staying here? It was to be a first very important step to build confidence that this game will bring the kind of content we expect, to bring the features that other games have a launch if we are only patient. How the **** are you expecting to keep people for GW2, for Diablo 3, heart of the swarm and DOTA 2? Ah yes... with a solid show that our time here will be worth it. For that we need to trust in your ability. For that we need to trust your word. well done... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanfordBlows Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 I'd wager 2/3 of all the posts have simply been deleted. 2 of mine have and they weren't even bad, just trying to add some humor to the situation that BW has created for themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shingara Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 Sorry to say i am on the other side of the fence on that - especially since they have no real ETA for ranked Warzones at this time And possibly the reason they have no eta is because they dont know, it could be fixed right now by one dev altering one line of code and put in on an emergency patch on friday, it could be in 3 weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glimmerstrike Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 and this is why you're not a game dev you know nothing about bugs .... How do you know what he knows or does not know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koios Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 So far 1.2 brings really nice changes, Ranked WZ will come in a week or two so no big deal. Sure it is a disappointment but I don't think it is a reason to unsub just yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angelgarcia Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 So far 1.2 brings really nice changes, Ranked WZ will come in a week or two so no big deal. Sure it is a disappointment but I don't think it is a reason to unsub just yet. What He said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jandi Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 Yup there are many records in the mmo history of much worse, swg is a prime example, jtl hits and bang change the game majorly, another expantion and nge. Even wow, look at path of the titans and the slew of other things announced one blizzcon and then the next time none of it was real and we were all dreaming. It's been like 7 years or so and I'm still bitter about my Jedi. I promised I would never pay for anything with Sony on it, and I haven't. I sold my PS2, that's how pissed off I was at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xinika Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 Not really that's 1 less sub cause the person cant understand them fixing stuff ... i think they would rather have stuff like that out of their game Keep telling yourself that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elesser Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 Didn't believe it when someone told me in game, only when I went to the developer tracker... Didn't think Bioware was this dumb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glzmo Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 (edited) It's a good thing that ranked warzones are delayed. There were just too many issues with them, including the potential of having uneven numbers and some even nastier things. A very brave and good call to delay them and especially listening to the community feedback in order to make thins right and not delay the whole game update any further. I just hope the delay won't cause an option to toggle on Chat Bubbles to be delayed until after 1.3. Edited April 12, 2012 by Glzmo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dotham Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 I think the biggest issue here is that all of us that were really looking forward to rated warzones just feel lied to.. I have never seen a developer be so unprofessional in my 10+ years of playing MMO's. /signed LiARS!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leik Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 i'd like to know how many of ya'll are gonna NerdRage/Quit That way the rest of us can be ready for a good laugh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vulup Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 Yup there are many records in the mmo history of much worse, swg is a prime example, jtl hits and bang change the game majorly, another expantion and nge. Even wow, look at path of the titans and the slew of other things announced one blizzcon and then the next time none of it was real and we were all dreaming. WoW pulled Path of the Titans well before the release. I have never seen/heard of anything getting pulled 3 hours before a patch/xpac. Mind you i never really played SWG and cant comment on the particulars you mentioned in your post. Wish i had though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pedra Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 Stephen, et al., There are a lot of folks that would love to test stuff on PTS (especially PvP and Rated WZ's) but most of us aren't in elite guilds that managed to snag a PTS character copy. Until BW makes that more widely available, you'll never have the numbers you need to properly test this stuff. UO had a nearly instant method of Test Server character creation over 15 years ago. Just saying... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Kelerak- Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 Just make sure when you put it live comes with no bugs, thats good for me. No pushy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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